Jonny Evans | 2011/12 Performances

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That was one of Jones's first major mistakes and so you accept it as a one off (unless this continues! Which I doubt having watched him). Evans looses out on a regular basis to forwards, especially in the air. That's when the player gets crucified for every mistake.

Jones was also culpable during that shambles of a game against Basel
 
You judge him according to his age. He's incredibly young for a top level centre-half. Rio was making all sorts of daft errors at the same age. Between the errors he was a class above the level Evans is now but Evans is clearly a very good young central defenders. It's really not difficult to see his qualities. At least it shouldn't be.

To compare him to a young Ferdinand is an unfair. Rio will go down as one of our greatest defenders, just because Evans is young and struggles doesn't mean you should draw comparison with Rio, what set ferdinand apart was he was a young player who had amazing technical ability and outstanding physical attributes, Evans has neither.
 
He put in a usual Evans performance for me.

He was good when dealing with one on ones and when the ball was on the floor but was again at fault for a goal from an airial ball. It was weird, like he didn't even react or try to head it away.
 
it's the same old story with our Jonny- he's very good until some point, then it's either a lapse of concentration, late challenge, small error that results in a goal. The thing that worries me is that is very good at interceptions but feck me sideways if i wouldn't win a header in our box when he is there. IMO that's the reason explaining why he looks so good along Vida.
 
Reminds me of a young Titus Bramble, can play 80 solid minutes but regularly has a crucial mistake in him. I'm never confident when I see his name on the team sheet these days.
 
Surprised there are people saying he had a good game last night, I thought he was far too light on the ball, beaten in the air (marginal offside or not).

His distribution was poor, and continually played people into trouble.

By rights he should be above both Smalling and Jones, when he quite simply is not even close IMO.
 
Should have been head and shoulders above everyone else on the pitch.

Sadly was nowhere near. Another weak display.
 
He has more experience that alot of those players mentioned above.

Smalling looks twice the player of Evans and last night again showed it.

He should have been setting an example IMO
 
He has more experience that alot of those players mentioned above.

Smalling looks twice the player of Evans and last night again showed it.

He should have been setting an example IMO

No he doesn't.

Four out of the 6 of them are older than him and Park and Berbatov have both played more games than him for United. Valencia has played more PL games in total.

Only Rafael and Smalling have played less times than Evans has for United and the difference with Rafael is relatively small (62 vs 87)
 
I think Evans style of defending isn't really appreciated, as people have said he's very good at spotting danger, intercepting and positioning himself to close off attacking options. I would be interested to see goals per game conceded figures with Evans in the team over the past 3 seasons compared to without Evans, I'd think he'd come out better than most here would expect.
 
No he doesn't.

Four out of the 6 of them are older than him and Park and Berbatov have both played more games than him for United. Valencia has played more PL games in total.

Only Rafael and Smalling have played less times than Evans has for United and the difference with Rafael is relatively small (62 vs 87)

I thought Evans was captain last night for a reason?

Either way, he was outshone again by Smalling. I am fed up of waiting for some consistency from Evans and am starting to feel it will never actually come.
 
I would sell Evans and replace him with Gary Cahill who is out of contract at the end of the season and is a far better player. Plus English.
 
I would sell Evans and replace him with Gary Cahill who is out of contract at the end of the season and is a far better player. Plus English.

fecking brilliant, let's replace a smart defender who's great at reading the game with the typical physical English defender (he's good on the ball to be fair) who's physically great but get's caught out by pace. Evans is very good but he just needs the right partner. It's Rio and Vidic, one to dominate the other to clean up. Evans can do the clean up role fine. You guys just need to patient, Jonny's come through the youth ranks and deserves a lot more support than he gets.
 
Has he ever been good?

I know he had a good spell at Sunderland but i have never seen him play well in a united shirt.

If you look at Phil Jones, after a couple of months people are comparing him to Duncan Edwards.
 
I think Evans style of defending isn't really appreciated, as people have said he's very good at spotting danger, intercepting and positioning himself to close off attacking options. I would be interested to see goals per game conceded figures with Evans in the team over the past 3 seasons compared to without Evans, I'd think he'd come out better than most here would expect.

Few on the caf appreciate that (see Carrick). I'm not sure his stats would be that great though, considering he often replaces Vidic.
 
Has he ever been good?

I know he had a good spell at Sunderland but i have never seen him play well in a united shirt.

If you look at Phil Jones, after a couple of months people are comparing him to Duncan Edwards.

Christ on a fecking bike.
 
Has he ever been good?

I know he had a good spell at Sunderland but i have never seen him play well in a united shirt.

If you look at Phil Jones, after a couple of months people are comparing him to Duncan Edwards.

yeah they can compare him to whoever, doesnt change the facts. One being that Jones is far away to be trusted fully yet or any better than Evans.

Evans proved in the past that he can be a very good defender, someone remember he was one of the reasons we didnt concede in a veeery long time, plus he kept top strikers quiet for fun. He might have lost his form, but that doesnt make him a shit player
 
Didn't say he was shit, in my opinion he is at best average.

Over the years we have been fortunate to have the like of Stam, Rio, Vidic-truly world class defenders, will Evans get to that level? It is fair to say that it is rather unlikely!!
 
Didn't say he was shit, in my opinion he is at best average.

Over the years we have been fortunate to have the like of Stam, Rio, Vidic-truly world class defenders, will Evans get to that level? It is fair to say that it is rather unlikely!!


I don't think anyone's expecting him to be world class. He doesn't even have to be to have a successful career here. Steve Bruce wasn't a world-class centre back, but he was still worth having in the team.
 
yeah they can compare him to whoever, doesnt change the facts. One being that Jones is far away to be trusted fully yet or any better than Evans.

Evans proved in the past that he can be a very good defender, someone remember he was one of the reasons we didnt concede in a veeery long time, plus he kept top strikers quiet for fun. He might have lost his form, but that doesnt make him a shit player

And he's been very good this season. He's had a few bad games, but he's 24 and still learning. It's like they all wait for that one bad game to barge through the door, saying he's been shit all season.
 
I don't think anyone's expecting him to be world class. He doesn't even have to be to have a successful career here. Steve Bruce wasn't a world-class centre back, but he was still worth having in the team.

Brucey was a leader, strong committed and brilliant in the air and i recall he scored a few goals for us.

Evans is not at the same level...
 
Brucey was a leader, strong committed and brilliant in the air and i recall he scored a few goals for us.

Evans is not at the same level...

Perhaps he should be allowed to develop before saying he's not good enough. Just to put what Evans has achieved thus far into perspective: At 23 he's already won two league titles and two league cup medals. He's also played over twenty times for his country and done very well for them.

At 23, Steve Bruce was playing for Gillingham.

Again, allow Evans to develop before writing him off.
 
Perhaps he should be allowed to develop before saying he's not good enough. Just to put what Evans has achieved thus far into perspective: At 23 he's already won two league titles and two league cup medals. He's also played over twenty times for his country and done very well for them.

At 23, Steve Bruce was playing for Gillingham.

Again, allow Evans to develop before writing him off.

But it's easier. Less typing.
 
Rubbish. A Vermaelen/Bruce combination woud be lethal.

Just think of the threat from set pieces, pete!
 
Bruce is a great guy but he was always too ugly to play for Arsenal.
 
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It's fair to say I didn't have to work hard to find a bad one.
 
Martin is jolie laide as they say, Bruce is pug-ugly. And Kos has been very good even at emergency RB.
 
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