Looking at it. Evans is quite possible already there. With Vidic and Rio basically being rested after each game generally Evans is the first choice for that second spot. It could be debated whether that is based on skill or just because we are nursing the Rio/vidic still.
Jonny Evans | 2011/12 Performances
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Vidic was left out because he was required against Everton more, and because Evans and Rio were considered better against the pace of Madrid. Madrid play on the counter a lot, so no surprise we went with these 2.
Vidic might start in the 2nd leg, imo. Especially seeing Ronaldo troubling us in the air.
Vidic might start in the 2nd leg, imo. Especially seeing Ronaldo troubling us in the air.
I'm sure many of us feel the same. What a transformation since City at home last year for Jonny. No fuss, just consistent excellence.
Aye, but I still think we'll benefit from a settled two in the League for the rest of the season but I can't see it happening with all the other games we have.
Evans, Vidic and Ferdinand are so good that they will manage regardless of who we play - esp as our toughest games are played at O.T
Not his best game by a long shot today.
Missed Vida.
Missed Vida.
Commentator: "A year back you could pinpoint all goals United conceded to Johny Evans"
There's being wrong and then there's being retarded. fecking cnut
There's being wrong and then there's being retarded. fecking cnut
Eh? Thank feck we had him today more like. He and Rio kept the score down.
Shocking. He's back to his old way of ALWAYS stay behind other defenders, and giving 3 yards space in front of him to the opponent.
Vidic should be starting all big games
Definately missed Vida. Evans had alot of trouble with mata and co. Although you could say the same for any defender in the world tbh.
Had atleast 2 poor clearances where he gave it too the Chelsea player in dangerous positions. Also, got skinned by Mata for the DDG save and got turned on another couple of times due to not being aggressive enough and giving their players chance to turn. His aggressive heading and distribution was off today too.
Dunno, Rio and Evans partnership especially against English teams doesn't work like Vida and Rio or Vida and Evans. Too similar some times.
What? I thought he was very good, especially in the first half.
FFS complaing about that Mata chance?? A wonderful turn by a great player like that will beat any centrehalf. He was the reason that Rooney's free went in, but don't let things like that get in the way of a bit of Jonny basing.
I thought he was one of our best players, a couple of errors and by no means a perfect game, but he was generally very solid.
Looked a bit headless out there today...in this type of games you need a leaders like Vida but i'm sure he will play better.
Nah, that trick wasn't the problem but the fact that he let him bring it down in the box after slipping on his backside in the first place.
Get closer to him and bully him off the ball, but he stood off and then that gives Mata to do his trick.
No Manchester United defence should be put under so much pressure. We're asking the impossible from our defenders. No one has a clean game.
Good first half, shit second. Made some terrible decisions and awful "passes".
The whole team was shit though so make of that what you will
The whole team was shit though so make of that what you will
Vidic of course never gets skinned by skillful attackers.
Well, he does but more or less he prevents the opportunities to get skinned like that and if he does he also gets called on it.
Most probably for the Mata chance he would have gotten his head on the ball from Luiz in the first place or gotten really close to Mata not allowing him to turn.
Once you do allow someone like Mata that space, you are fair game to get skinned. Both Rio and Evans are stand offish kind of defenders. As i said too similar at times because both would rather not go and attack the ball early.
It's Mata, and he's left footed. What did Evans do? Exactly. Let Mata to shoot with his left. Poor defending. And that also because he stayed behind all defenders, so Mata was onside. Poor positioning.
Ramires goal. He left Ramires had the space and all the time in the world to place his shoot. Poor defending.
He almost responsible for two goals, bar amazing save by de Gea.
While, i agree on the Mata chance as i pointed above, blaming him for the Ramires goal is harsh.
The whole defence was caught on the counter there and Ramires just shifted to his left and shot quickly. Not sure what else he could have done there.
Pressure him to make mistake. Allowing 3 yards space with the opponent on/near the penalty box, is just not a good centerback should do.
Thought he was one of our better players in what was overall a very poor performance from us.
FFS he pulled across to Ramires at the last moment from another man as he was left with two, he was moving to his left to get into a covering position and a very quick attacker at pace shifted to the other side. He couldn't get any closer as it was a break and Ramires was breaking from the middle. It's not like he was marking him. If you blame him for that goal then your clueless mate.
But it was Rio that Mata turned at the end of the game...right?
Evans played well.
Evans played well.
For the DDG save ? It was Evans.
ohh my bad...
Now that's what you call a 90th minute save!
Pity that gif wasn't about 3 seconds longer at the start!
Evans and Rio were our best players. Credit to Mata for the skill rather than point fingers at Evans.
got away with a terrible clearance near the end, peerollered it straight to Cole about 10 yards from goal!
However, i think the days where you'd see his name and fear the worst are long gone.
Not sure i can ever see him being Vidic/Ferdinand level though.
However, i think the days where you'd see his name and fear the worst are long gone.
Not sure i can ever see him being Vidic/Ferdinand level though.
Not really getting why people think Evans had a poor game.
He played one very poor clearance, apart from that he did a good job under constant pressure in the second half.
The Mata thing was just Mata being absolutely brilliant as usual.
He played one very poor clearance, apart from that he did a good job under constant pressure in the second half.
The Mata thing was just Mata being absolutely brilliant as usual.
Nail on head Pletch. Of course with the ridiculous over analysis on here of every opposition goal and the need to blame someone every time by people who seem to know feck all about the game makes Jonny a good spacegoat.
Mata should have never been allowed so much space to pull of that skill in the first place. See that chance from the start when Luiz has the ball -
He gets caught under the ball and even after that allows Mata to spin off too easily.
Edit - Also, ofcourse Mata is more likely to shift it to his left.
He gets caught under the ball and even after that allows Mata to spin off too easily.
Edit - Also, ofcourse Mata is more likely to shift it to his left.
If we're going to analysis this then the ball from Luiz only travels about 20 yards, Mata is running straight for the centre of the goal when the ball is played but checks his run. Jonny isn't able to get a header on the ball as he was running the opposite direction covering Mata's initial run and as the ball is only n the air for just over a second he doesn't have time to readjust and move 3-4 yards in a different direction. At that point Mata could have tried a volley (6 seconds on the video exactly) so Jonny had to go to Mata's right leg. From that still shot at 6 seconds it looks like Mata is about to smash it but with amazing control he brings it back and as Jonny was trying to block the possible volley he couldn't turn in time.
Your argument is just wrong unless you are under the impression that footballers have superhuman perception and speed.
Your argument is just wrong unless you are under the impression that footballers have superhuman perception and speed.
He got caught under the ball at a time when we're pressing, well at least trying to press, for a winner. It happens. I don't get this sudden fascination to analyse everything our defenders do, Mata did superbly well after that.
Hmm, looking at it again Jonny doesn't cover himself in glory, he is a bit flat-footed
But it's hard to legislate for those two world-class touches
Anyway, De Gea saved it and, so in the grand scheme of things it Juan Mata
But it's hard to legislate for those two world-class touches
Anyway, De Gea saved it and, so in the grand scheme of things it Juan Mata
