Why ? Who has done better ? Probably Vidic's game few weeks back comes close.
Jonny Evans | 2011/12 Performances
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Why ? Who has done better ? Probably Vidic's game few weeks back comes close.
Well it probably was Rio judging from the raving reviews he gets from the other posters in here
It was actually Rio. Evans did well when he ventured forward and the only time he got caught out was when someone else screwed up a simple pass and he was caught out of position towards end of the game.
Because it's quite plainly not. He made a few mistakes in the first half with his passing and got caught on the ball a couple of times. A little too many mistakes to called the best performance. Not saying he was bad (he wasn't) just not as good as you are trying to make out.
Vidic vs WBA would get my vote for the best CB performance
Excellent performance by Evans today; he made several vital interceptions and was noticeably dominant in the air. It's good to see him back in the team, he will provide the extra stability to our defense in upcoming matches.
He was poor in the first half to me and then got better.
Both Evans and Rio were collectively responsible for them winning every first header at a corner second half.
Other than that he was very good.
Other than that he was very good.
If anybody needs any reminding of how good Evans is, this was the game to remind you. To show that character in a scrappy game, away from home vs a team fighting for their lives was brilliant. Commanding performance.
Love the last massive tackle.
He has to play because of his distribution.
Don't go off reputations, if you are trying to be picky then I can point you to few bad passes that Vidic played in that game. You can't be pedantic with one and give a free pass the other.
Vidic won a lot of headers in that game and was generally a rock but Evans had a much more complete performance today - last ditch tackles, attacking and winning headers, blocks, sweeping the balls and more importantly than anything for me he had the composure to be calm and distribute the ball well from the back. That saved us from the usual hoof the ball from defense that we suddenly start doing in away games.
Do it then.
Evans was very good today, but one off him/Rio needed to be more aggressive to prevent the second ball strategy they adopted first half and also to prevent them winning every first header off a corner in the second half. You could say we missed Vidic in that respect slightly as many balls were cleared off the line.
I'm starting to think he is better than Smalling and Jones.
Right now, he certainly is.
Defended like Baresi today, passed like Blunkett.
Now you are resorting to making stuff up. Vidic was flawless in that game and made no mistakes that I can recollect. He won a lot of headers because that's how WBA played. Compare that game with this one and you'll see a difference with the amount of headers we won in that game with this one.
He always has been. Smalling has the potential to be a Rolls-Royce type centre half, the type Rio was at his best. But for defensive ability, and current ability on the ball Johnny is miles ahead of both of them.
I've no idea what our strongest centre back combination is. I don't even know who our best one is. They're all either top quality or potentially amazing.
His distribution is not near Rio, tbf.
No I agree, but then Rio's distribution only became top class around 25/26 after a few years with us. Evans is the best ball playing centre half we have nowadays, if you take Rio out of the equation obviously.
Just confirmed he had cramp in his calf muscles.
Do it then.
Evans was very good today, but one off him/Rio needed to be more aggressive to prevent the second ball strategy they adopted first half and also to prevent them winning every first header off a corner in the second half. You could say we missed Vidic in that respect slightly as many balls were cleared off the line.
Nope, why would I make stuff up. I call it the way I see it. Here is what I said after that game:
Sometimes only few players get nit picked for these mistakes. I also went back and tried to compare the stats:
Vidic in that game had 74% pass accuracy while Evans today had 86% while both of them won 4 tackles in respective games. Vidic won 7 Aerial Duels in that game while Evans did only 4 today which was the general consensus too. Like what I said earlier, Evans had a much more all round performance today than Vidic that day.
No he did not. Most of Vidic's misplaced passes were punts up the field, a lot less dangerous than Evans who misplaced far easier passes in dangerous areas. Vidic's defending was brilliant and he dealt with everything WBA had to offer.
He was brilliant but he needs to learn to cut out some really stupid fouls he gives away. Other than that it was a perfect performance. Oh and those little dribbles he goes on can be pretty scary to watch.
He won two or three key tackles late in the game where he dived in and won the ball. Problem is those are the same tackles he often mistimes. I love his enthusiasm to get head of his man when he anticipates the pass, but for such a cerebral player it's not a clever tactic to dive in like that, and it's going to cost us some time.
Both made 42 passes, Evans got 86% of them right while Vidic got only 74% of it right. What are we arguing here ? Carrick screws up some easy passes from time to time in dangerous positions but that doesn't make his passing game worse than Vidic's. There is just no argument here. If you can't see the quality in distribution between the two then I can't do anything because I've tried to prove it with stats and I'm also fairly sure you see it with your own eyes but just refuse to believe it.
Evans is clearly a much better passer than Vidic.
Let me say it again. The passes displaced by Evans were in far more dangerous area and easier than the long punts up the field by Vidic. I'd rather see us lose the ball higher up the pitch than give the ball away in our own area. Even ignoring his sloppy passes this was no where near the Vidic performance
Yeah, while Vidic is clearly better in the air and more aggressive.
If we are just nitpicking then Evans made some errors passing wise today in crucial areas, and then aerially as i said before both him and Rio were collectively responsible for allowing them to win first header of every corner first half. They also needed to be slightly more aggressive against the long ball strategy first half..
If we are just nitpicking then Evans made some errors passing wise today in crucial areas, and then aerially as i said before both him and Rio were collectively responsible for allowing them to win first header of every corner first half. They also needed to be slightly more aggressive against the long ball strategy first half..
Btw, i thought Joe Allen had invalidated passing percentage stats ?
It's definitely well past the stage where we used to see Evans name on the line up and fear the worst.
He's been pretty solid this year, and today was a good performance.
He's been pretty solid this year, and today was a good performance.
Never went through that stage personally, always rated Jonny highly. He's still got too many errors in his game, but he's a class act.
You obviously have a bad memory then, for a period of a few months he was shocking.
Really turned it around now though, we hardly missed vidic at all today, and that is probably the biggest compliment you can say.
He had a dip, but I was never sorry to see him on the teamsheet, I had faith he'd come right.
He was excellent - but it's strange that so many has forgotten that he gave away a needless and dangerous freekick right at the end.
Really classy today. Continues to develop in front of our very eyes.
He'd already done his calf by then in fairness
Great performance considering he'd been out for a few games
That one ball that was on its way through and he just barely managed to stretch and pluck it out of the air... didn't look flustered at all, Jonny, but personally I was bricking it for half a second!
The last free kick of the game? That was Welbeck