Just back from seeing it, feck I love this series. Have a few gripes, particularly with the second act, but overall was just another excellent action film in the series.
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Just back from seeing it, feck I love this series. Have a few gripes, particularly with the second act, but overall was just another excellent action film in the series.
Yep, went to see it on Wednesday and I was really looking forward to it. Can’t quite put my finger on what it is exactly, but thought it was really disappointing compared to the first two.
Started of well, especially the knife fight. But then just went downhill, just felt a bit cheesy
Really enjoyed it. Would have liked it if there was more world building.
They have set up John Wick 4 nicely.
They have set up John Wick 4 nicely.
Halle Berry and the dogs were excellent.
Turned the second one off half way through.
The beginning was gripping, I felt that we could be heading towards greatness.
But then as the movie went on, the convenience of the plot armor begins to show..oh and yes how ridiculous the high table is.
The fights suddenly became too choreographed for me. Bad guys doesn't retaliate with realism, sword fights felt like chinese action movies, etc.
The main gripe about the action scenes are that it became too wired, it lost its magic from the first 2 movies. As you are reaching towards the end, it felt tired and draggy.
This is the weakest entry for me. 7/10.
But then as the movie went on, the convenience of the plot armor begins to show..oh and yes how ridiculous the high table is.
The fights suddenly became too choreographed for me. Bad guys doesn't retaliate with realism, sword fights felt like chinese action movies, etc.
The main gripe about the action scenes are that it became too wired, it lost its magic from the first 2 movies. As you are reaching towards the end, it felt tired and draggy.
This is the weakest entry for me. 7/10.
Better than 2 but the first is still the best in my opinion.
The dogs were brilliant.
The dogs were brilliant.
Just back from watching it. Felt exactly the same. Started off so fecking good. That first knife fight. Unreal. But gradually deteriorated from there. All the bits between the fights were lame as hell and in the final quarter, even the fights became a bit dull. Still enjoyable overall though.
That one scene when Halle Berry character put that one guy in submission and then the poor guy gasping for air with both of his hands on the air shaking. Then berry just shoots other guys with ease. I mean, tackle her ffs! sums it all up for me
Weirder thing for me is how the heck ninjas are better than guns? It became so campy.
Why are folks here complaining about the lack of realism? Its John Wick.
No Seal Team 6, SAS/SBS or Delta Team guy on his best day can do what John Wick does. Its meant to be outrageous/campy and OTT.
No Seal Team 6, SAS/SBS or Delta Team guy on his best day can do what John Wick does. Its meant to be outrageous/campy and OTT.
I loved it, another nice addition to the series.
I have no complaints about the lack of realism, just that the fights feel over-choreographed and over-stylized. It loses impact for me.
It's why I also liked The Raid 1 more than The Raid 2. The fighting from the 1st movie felt more gripping, more hard-hitting.
Yeap. Bigger budgets will do that to you.
Btw. You can add Ong-Bak to that list too.
Can't wait to see this. Keanu Reeves is a legend.
Exactly. It felt like the bad guys are so incompetent in this one. Funnily enough they just let John Wick man handle them with ease.
Like what Pogue and I said, the first part of the movie sets up nicely, but it went downhill from there. Luckily it doesn't turn to shit and the movie did well enough to save itself.
Well now I can't wait to wrap up this month with Godzilla KOTM to heal the pain of United season and GOT feckery.
Saw this last night and really enjoyed it as expected. Reeves is an amazing action star and Mark Dacascos was a great addition as his main adversary.
The opening few fight scenes were brutal and hilarious (library, knife and stable fights), felt that it sagged in the middle a bit with the whole Casablanca/Desert excursion but then came back strong with the last 30 minutes exploding into proper gun porn and martial arts ballet. Cracking stuff setting up the 4th one nicely (May 21st 2021 apparently) which I assume will be
Would rate them 1>3>2 overall.
The opening few fight scenes were brutal and hilarious (library, knife and stable fights), felt that it sagged in the middle a bit with the whole Casablanca/Desert excursion but then came back strong with the last 30 minutes exploding into proper gun porn and martial arts ballet. Cracking stuff setting up the 4th one nicely (May 21st 2021 apparently) which I assume will be
John, Winston et al going to war with the High Table
Would rate them 1>3>2 overall.
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I think the same - the ending, there's no way after all this time that Winston would cross John like that and throw him off the roof for real. When John could easily have killed him at the start of the final battle for the Continental.
I was happy to see earlier this week confirmation of the 4th film being released in a couple of years like you say and I agree, it will be John, Winston etc... in a final battle with the High Table. I know Keanu said he'd keep making them for as long as people kept watching them however I suspect they will wrap it up in number 4.
I was happy to see earlier this week confirmation of the 4th film being released in a couple of years like you say and I agree, it will be John, Winston etc... in a final battle with the High Table. I know Keanu said he'd keep making them for as long as people kept watching them however I suspect they will wrap it up in number 4.
Seen this today. Highlights were the library death, the knife in the eye, the feckin awesome Halle Berry and her dogs and the motorbike chase sequence. Liked the development of the whole High Table thing though some of the characters were a bit too campy.
Great to see the Raid I & II guys in there but obviously Keanu Reeves is no Iko Uwais so obviously they had to work with what they were given.
Looks like Chapter 4 is going to be all guns blazing and upping the ante even more. Bring it on!
Great to see the Raid I & II guys in there but obviously Keanu Reeves is no Iko Uwais so obviously they had to work with what they were given.
Looks like Chapter 4 is going to be all guns blazing and upping the ante even more. Bring it on!
Finally got around go watch it. What can i say, it didn't disappoint 
Can't wait for the 4
Edit: compared to the first two it does lean more heavily towards hong kong action movie homage(which it is, to be sure), action scenes are more coreographed, though still plenty spectacular(and as someone with some very basic training in stage fighting, really impressive, too)
Can't wait for the 4
Edit: compared to the first two it does lean more heavily towards hong kong action movie homage(which it is, to be sure), action scenes are more coreographed, though still plenty spectacular(and as someone with some very basic training in stage fighting, really impressive, too)
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When is Wick 4 coming out? I can't see keanu maintaining this level of physicality. Even Tom Cruise has clearly slowed down.
Finally got around go watch it. What can i say, it didn't disappoint
Can't wait for the 4
Edit: compared to the first two it does lean more heavily towards hong kong action movie homage(which it is, to be sure), action scenes are more coreographed, though still plenty spectacular(and as someone with some very basic training in stage fighting, really impressive, too)
Tbf you cant make a good action scene without it being coreographed. Real fights are ugly to watch, oh and real life gunfight will end up pretty boring.
My only grip is that john doesnt really mastered martial artist his moves is pretty wooden you know he's not a natural martial artist like yayan or cecep
Why not? His moves are bland and most of the time. It only works because of the plot. He's not the ilk of jackie chan when it comes to action he can keep up with a few more. Plus keanu doesnt seems to age alot
The combination of the ballet and fight training together at Belarusian school is how they saw the two art.
If he doesn't have fast hands or fast legs, the fight scenes will look wooden. I need to go back and watch Wick 1 to see if his hands have slowed down, he never had fast feet anyway. He is 54y.o this year after all.
He was pretty slow you can see he's acting. Compared to movies like the raid and ong bak where the fight is much better.
No complain though, it just feels abit off since they potray wick as godlike kratos
I dont know what to say liked it but also lost interest for a while.
The movie is better than nr 2. But another good outing for the Wicks..
The movie is better than nr 2. But another good outing for the Wicks..
Yeah I think they kind of peaked with the opening 30 minutes in terms of wtf action moments.
Fully agree, it really went a bit meh after that.
Just like a roller-coaster ride. Nevertheless, I enjoyed it. Great segue into Wick 4.
i liked how Halle Berry had the decency to trade a few punches with everyone in that fight scene before shooting them in the head from point blank range
I just re-watched Wick 1. There was a lot more hand to hand combat, with guns scenes -- and he was definitely more physical in 1 than in 3 where he basically shot himself out of trouble. (They shot Wick 1 in 2013 when he was in his late 40s.)
I am also guessing that the fight choreographers figured that at 50+, they need to limit his physicality or he may land up injuring himself and feck the shoot/film schedule up. $$$
John Wick 2 was shite. Don’t expect this to be any better - wasn’t the sort of film which needed a sequel IMO. Is this at least better than the second?
Imo the 2nd was crap or at least lazy writing. The 3rd is much better.
Loved the first so if it is even half as good - I’ll give it a go and watch it.
So, are any of you gun nuts? They seem to pay special attention to showing Wick/Keanu reloading and manipulating the chamber; isn't what he's doing there standard fare?
Film was OK, but it looks like a victim of its own success as a franchise now. Lost its way a little now and also fallen into the Hollywood trap of trying to outdo itself and be more outrageous at every turn. They didn't need to do that.
Film was OK, but it looks like a victim of its own success as a franchise now. Lost its way a little now and also fallen into the Hollywood trap of trying to outdo itself and be more outrageous at every turn. They didn't need to do that.
That adjudicator was so fecking annoying. I really hoped she would have gotten offed by the time the movie ended. Can’t wait to see her meet her end in the fourth movie. I hope they don’t do some kind of stupid redemption story where she ends up helping Wick.
I'm going to watch this sometime this week with Baby Blaggs. Is it as good as the first two?
Depends blagg, story wise none of them are any good. But from a pure violence gun ballet it's better incrementally, the body counts keeps on increasing every sequel and John Wick got more and more sophisticated in his arsenal. The universe for me is the strong point, and it also didn't fail to disappoint, they've created a very interesting universe of Assassin world that's unique and interesting.
Each movie certainly worth the admission ticket