John Stones | Done Deal

Status
Not open for further replies.
He played quite well last night I thought, certainly has talent there to work with, if we did splash out on him I wouldn't be upset, put it that way.
Plus he's English, it's a nice thought... at least for me, for United to have a few British players around.
 
If we can't get Varane, then I would be okay with Stones. I think Stones and Smalling can make a decent partnership for years to come, and personally I would give Rio a call to help Stones reach his potential. Rio seems to rate him, and has recently been speaking to the English under age groups so I think he would fancy a coaching spot.
 
Gerald G said:
Yeah he is obviously talented. Working under Martinez killed him. I'd take him in the summer and I too think Jose will improve him.
As long as the price isn't too steep, I'd gladly have him at United.
Click to expand...

I'd certainly prefer we took the chance on the most promising English CB than paying £40M for Manolas.
 
I don't rate him but I wouldn't be against us buying him. Just because he can dribble a little doesn't remove the fact he's a bit of a headless chicken positionally and his decision making is poor. But, if there's one coach who can teach him that, it's Mourinho.
 
If we can't get Varane or Marquinhos, I'd definitely take Stones.

I'd take him over Manolas aswell, purely because I think he will have more of a connection with United. He'll know what's expected of him and what it means to play for United, etc.

For me, Darmian hasn't worked out at United, and I sense Manolas would be the same. Plus, it looks like Smalling will be our first choice CB so it's only natural to buy Stones aswell and get that English chemistry.

If I was the manager, I probably wouldn't keep Smalling. I know that's a controversial opinion and all that, considering he's had a decent season... but I just think he always has a mistake in him. Especially in the key games. He nearly cost us the final last week. I think we should cash in on his good form and sell him for a good fee. I'm sure someone like Arsenal or West Ham would take him for 30m or so. That will give us the funds to buy someone like Varane or Zouma who I rate much higher and think would be better under Mourinho.
 
I would be very happy if we bought him.

He had a bad season. In some respects, that and the fact that he pushed for a move last summer make him attainable this year.

It is going to be extremely difficult to ply players from even midtable PL clubs with the new TV money adding to already plush budgets.

This one we can get. If Mourinho sees something in him, I think we should be excited.
 
If there's one thing I'll trust Mourinho with it's sorting out the centre of our defence. I think Stones has a hell of a lot of potential, and you'd be mad to judge him too harshly on last seasons form, Everton were a total mess.
 
Defensively he has been far from impressive this season but considering he has been playing under Martinez who is completely unable to set up a defense I think he will look much better next season wherever he ends up.
 
We should get him if he's available for less that 25m. But I think we should go for experienced CBs like Benatia.
 
Extremely reluctant for us to sign a young centre back but it looks like that's what we're going for this summer with links to Stones, Marquinhos, Varane etc.

Would prefer we bought a more experienced player as not only would it allow our own young talented defenders to come through but I don't personally think Smalling would fair to well alongside a younger centre back regularly quite yet in his career, needs someone that is more assured in themselves and won't look to him.
 
I remember Mourinho having Stones as his main target in defense, he was going to be Terry's replacement.

We don't have old defenders. So, do you think Mourinho will go for an experienced CB instead of a younger one?

Also, what kind of characteristics Mourinho normally looks in a defender? I think he prefers a tall/strong defender, no necessarily a good ball playing like Blind.
 
Fer said:
I remember Mourinho having Stones as his main target in defense, he was going to be Terry's replacement.

We don't have old defenders. So, do you think Mourinho will go for an experienced CB instead of a younger one?

Also, what kind of characteristics Mourinho normally looks in a defender? I think he prefers a tall/strong defender, no necessarily a good ball playing like Blind.
Click to expand...

Don't/Didn't Chelsea have to worry about a homegrown quota as well? Maybe that's why he preferred Stones.
 
For me I'd take Varane>Stones>Marquinhos but either of those 3 would be a great signing.
 
Gimenez would be a more ideal signing than Stones IMO. Or Laporte. What impressed me the most about Gimenez is when he had a mare against Bayern in the first half of the second leg but turned it around in the second and played a massive role in the middle. He's a solid, hard-nosed defender, and playing in Simeone's system should be perfect preparation for life under Jose.
 
I may turn out to be totally wrong but I can't understand the John Stones hype.

Stones has not had a good game in months. I accept there are mitigating circumstances. The environment around Martinez's Everton seems to have been nearly as bad as Van Gaal's United. In such circumstances nobody is going to be playing to their potential. At the same time I have yet to see anything that special about his supposed strengths.

People talk about him as a ball playing centre back, he's not exactly a fledgling Frank de Boer though. I am told Stones brings the ball out of defence? Doesn't Paddy McNair do that? The press are floating figures of £40 odd million. Seems mad to me. Where is the evidence that Stones will offer us something that Fosu-Mensah cannot?

Mourinho is yet to spent more than £32 million on a single player, I find it hard to believe he would spend over £40 million on Stones.
 
Yeah, I totally agree with you as I can't see "it" either. But if Mourinho thinks he's worth it, than so be it - he probably is. Not that Mourinho can't be wrong though.
 
#07 said:
I may turn out to be totally wrong but I can't understand the John Stones hype.

Stones has not had a good game in months. I accept there are mitigating circumstances. The environment around Martinez's Everton seems to have been nearly as bad as Van Gaal's United. In such circumstances nobody is going to be playing to their potential. At the same time I have yet to see anything that special about his supposed strengths.

People talk about him as a ball playing centre back, he's not exactly a fledgling Frank de Boer though. I am told Stones brings the ball out of defence? Doesn't Paddy McNair do that? The press are floating figures of £40 odd million. Seems mad to me. Where is the evidence that Stones will offer us something that Fosu-Mensah cannot?

Mourinho is yet to spent more than £32 million on a single player, I find it hard to believe he would spend over £40 million on Stones.
Click to expand...

Chelsea offered 35m + 5m add-ons last summer, he clearly rates him.
 
#07 said:
I may turn out to be totally wrong but I can't understand the John Stones hype.

Stones has not had a good game in months. I accept there are mitigating circumstances. The environment around Martinez's Everton seems to have been nearly as bad as Van Gaal's United. In such circumstances nobody is going to be playing to their potential. At the same time I have yet to see anything that special about his supposed strengths.

People talk about him as a ball playing centre back, he's not exactly a fledgling Frank de Boer though. I am told Stones brings the ball out of defence? Doesn't Paddy McNair do that? The press are floating figures of £40 odd million. Seems mad to me. Where is the evidence that Stones will offer us something that Fosu-Mensah cannot?

Mourinho is yet to spent more than £32 million on a single player, I find it hard to believe he would spend over £40 million on Stones.
Click to expand...
Not sure about Stones at all. Jose wanted him, but he would be guided along by John Terry and Gary Cahill. Here it would be Smalling/Jones/Rojo. That fills me with dread.
 
From an England perspective, it would be bloody fantastic if Stones and Smalling formed a formidable partnership. I think we'd need a more experienced CB as well as Stones if we were to get him. Both Stones and Smalling have a lot to learn to be world class, but who knows they may compliment each other!

I could see him here; the price is what would worry me. If they were willing to turn down Chelsea's money last season, they'd try and bleed us dry!
 
I don't want us buying any of Everton s players. Half of them are overrated and will cost a fortune.
 
^^ right, because Rooney was overrated. (sarcasm)

Stones would be a no-brainer. We've watched him over many seasons now and even though he's prone to make the odd mistake, he's proven that he belongs in the conversation for most talented central defenders in this league.
 
VanHaal'sRedArmy said:
^^ right, because Rooney was overrated. (sarcasm)

Stones would be a no-brainer. We've watched him over many seasons now and even though he's prone to make the odd mistake, he's proven that he belongs in the conversation for most talented central defenders in this league.
Click to expand...

He must have had at least 15 goals conceded due to his ineptitude. His talent is nothing great. It's just that he supposedly has some ball playing skills. We could get him for at max £25m
 
prath92 said:
He must have had at least 15 goals conceded due to his ineptitude. His talent is nothing great. It's just that he supposedly has some ball playing skills. We could get him for at max £25m
Click to expand...
Do you know anything about Everton and their CEO? They are the next Spurs and Levy when it comes to doing business especially with another premier league team.
 
prath92 said:
He must have had at least 15 goals conceded due to his ineptitude. His talent is nothing great. It's just that he supposedly has some ball playing skills. We could get him for at max £25m
Click to expand...

£25m max? If you say so. :lol:
 
prath92 said:
Which is why I said they are overpriced and shouldn't buy them
Click to expand...
But that's not just Evertonian players though. The entire market is that way today. Any one you want - Marquinos, Varane, Stones etc. will all cost upward of 30m.
 
Castia said:
For me I'd take Varane>Stones>Marquinhos but either of those 3 would be a great signing.
Click to expand...

Doesn't Varane have dodgy knees? If fully fit he'd be my first choice too though.
 
Laporte off to City.

Surely that would mean their interest in Stones is over.
 
Damien said:
Nah. They still have the crap Otamendi and Mangala and Kompany is never fit so they'll probably buy a rightsided partner for Stones.
Click to expand...

I am surprised they going to ditch Otamendi.

I don't think Laporte and Stones is a great combination. Both are very similar in style albeit Laporte is a better defender.

Both of them will need Kompany holding their hand for the first few years.
 
Damien said:
Nah. They still have the crap Otamendi and Mangala and Kompany is never fit so they'll probably buy a rightsided partner for Stones.
Click to expand...

Otamendi isn't crap. It'll be him and Laporte I'd imagine since Kompany will never play.
 
Bojan11 said:
Laporte off to City.

Surely that would mean their interest in Stones is over.
Click to expand...
Think again, fairly certain we're in for both rather than one or the other.

Mangala will be off if we get both, along with Demichelis. Leaving Otamendi, Kompany, Laporte & Stones; Denayer likely replace Zabaleta at right back.
 
If we go after Stones, Mourinho will bring in an older experienced centre half to partner him.

Smalling - Stones has too many mistakes in it at the moment, and long term Stones is a better prospect than Smalling.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.