Joe Hart being unceremoniously f××ked off by Citeh
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Hart.Wasnt.Available.Then.
Yes, unless its a heavily subsidised loan deal I cannot see any premier league side willing to spend much on a keeper right about now. Not sure if City will let him go cheap either.
The English media have hardly bothered with the Bastian stories after the initial hysteria.
Hart is pictured countless times in every City game frowning.Don't think it's been that bad.
He was though, it's been a pretty open secret that Hart was out the door for most of 2016.
Both managers are winners. You need to be decisive at the top level.
Wasting time on a player you have no trust in has no benefits. Rather better to get rid and get someone else in.
He is kind of done as a top keeper in a CL team - Every other team has a keeper thats better or as good as him. Damn, that must be hard to take for him...
Thats true I guess. It's more you had a number of papers bashing out stories, Bayern chief getting his nose stuck in and in all the papers shouting about how players won't want to come to United if they treat players like this, then city do the same and I see no article from the same journos saying the same about city.
The simple truth is that United are simply a bigger attraction for journalists.
We generate far more clicks thus why there is more focus on us.
Not sure if I'd say De Gea is better than him to be honest.bite
It's not as though a tragedy happened to the family breadwinner and youre turfed out of your family home by a club.
He can always retire now, and have a goodtime for the rest of his life and family, far more than 99.9% of us...unless he's been copying the David James goalkeeping manual on how not to wisely spend and invest.
He can always retire now, and have a goodtime for the rest of his life and family, far more than 99.9% of us...unless he's been copying the David James goalkeeping manual on how not to wisely spend and invest.
are you comparing Joe Hart vs ddg and saying you're not sure if ddg is better than joe? If so, I'd call 999 now mate as you've obviously knocked yourself out bad somehow
Hard for a mediocre gk with top wages to move around.
Midtables teams aren't going to spunk a good wage and fee for a gk. They'd be wiser to spend it on an attacking player and goes on with their stable keeper, someone who gives a solid 6.5 every game and just dont feck up too much.
Midtables teams aren't going to spunk a good wage and fee for a gk. They'd be wiser to spend it on an attacking player and goes on with their stable keeper, someone who gives a solid 6.5 every game and just dont feck up too much.
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He's only 29 so he'll make the move back up in a couple of years. Courtois, de Gea, Cech and Lloris are all better but Cech's going to retire and at least one of the others will move. Wouldn't be surprised to see him go abroad to a CL team because I can't see him accepting West Ham as his level and nowhere else is suitable. He's certainly better than a number of CL keepers.
Thing is, Hart's always been that level below the top keepers, even when he was at his apparent best. He was shielded for a few seasons when Kompany was fit and City's defense was solid, but as soon as that went a bit dodgy his weaknesses became more obvious. Couple that with the fact he's never looked particularly great for England and that he's a colossal dickhead, it's hardly a surprise he's being turfed out.
I'll always remember one of their many disappointing results in their first few CL campaigns and this twat came out and slagged off his teammates in a post-match interview. Then you've got things like him practically headbutting the tunnel wall pre-match, only to let in a howler within 15 minutes of kick-off. Cock.
I'll always remember one of their many disappointing results in their first few CL campaigns and this twat came out and slagged off his teammates in a post-match interview. Then you've got things like him practically headbutting the tunnel wall pre-match, only to let in a howler within 15 minutes of kick-off. Cock.
Apart from winning two Copa Americas, a pair of La Liga's, a CL, a bunch of other domestic and international cups, what has Bravo got on Joe?
You missed the white text, you've been hadare you comparing Joe Hart vs ddg and saying you're not sure if ddg is better than joe? If so, I'd call 999 now mate as you've obviously knocked yourself out bad somehow
I've always thought he was below the top level of keepers, gets too easy a go from the media and he makes too many mistakes, but he's being weirdly underrated now, due to nothing more than Pep not fancying him due to his very specific criteria of what a goalkeeper should be. Plus he'll likely improve his decision making as he gets older. If Everton, for example, could buy him at a half decent price they could get a real bargain.
Ha ha h aYou missed the white text, you've been had
I've never rated him.
His distribution isn't just a tiny bit short of top tier, its dire.
He isn't particularly good at claiming crosses and taking charge of the penalty box - he'll sit on his line the overwhelming majority of the time.
Hes a good shot stopper but tends to drop a lot of shots in his 6 yard box or at the feet of an opposition player which leaves him at a debatable level for pure not-letting-other-team-score ability.
He really needs to learn to start pushing some of them out for a corner or at least off to the side a tiny bit
He has the odd inspired game but most keepers do to be fair - brad friedel had 2 a season against us every single season for a start -
he wasn't top tier and didn't have any of the crippling shortcomings that hart has.
Not sure he's as bad as some on here make him out to be, nor ever quite as good as his reputation has suggested over the years, but he' not a bad keeper when in form and a elite shotstopper on his day.
But anyway, he's known for a good part of a year that Pep was coming in, ample time to either try and improve his distribution to impress or seek an exit, and he's done neither.
But anyway, he's known for a good part of a year that Pep was coming in, ample time to either try and improve his distribution to impress or seek an exit, and he's done neither.
I generally agree but it is hard to see who he would go to that would be a great fit for both parties. Everton's the best fit for Hart but Stekelenberg is a good keeper and I suspect Koeman's a fan. Likewise for Liverpool and Karius. West Ham are the only big team with a need for an upgrade but there's no guarantee they'll even compete for the European places. Would Hart be ok with that? Not so sure. If he did then it'd be one of the best signings of the summer.
When you quote someone do you really not see the text before the "[/quote]" tag?
Surprises me how many times people take the bait
I always thought he was massively overrated. Not a bad goalkeeper by any stretch, but i would say he was between good and great. I would have Neurer and DeGea in the top group, then Courtois, Cech and maybe a few others below them and then Hart in the group below them.
He would make some great saves, but these would be countered by some terrible blunders which were all too frequent.
He would make some great saves, but these would be countered by some terrible blunders which were all too frequent.
Makes far too many errors, he can have outstanding games but then when it matters he drops a mistake of the level of the Bale free kick in the Euros.
One thing of note though, I have never ever once noticed him being bad with his feet, maybe it's just me not looking close enough but he's always seemed fairly good to me.
One thing of note though, I have never ever once noticed him being bad with his feet, maybe it's just me not looking close enough but he's always seemed fairly good to me.
I'm surprised city are getting rid
Not much in the way of homegrown players in their squad
Gunn (3rd keeper)
Stones
Delph
Stirling
Ihenecho (not sure he qualifies yet?)
Does de bruyne count?
And shouldn't they have eight?
http://www.epfl-europeanleagues.com/quota_for_Premier_League.htm
Not much in the way of homegrown players in their squad
Gunn (3rd keeper)
Stones
Delph
Stirling
Ihenecho (not sure he qualifies yet?)
Does de bruyne count?
And shouldn't they have eight?
http://www.epfl-europeanleagues.com/quota_for_Premier_League.htm
he's a good keeper, but has too many flaws in his game he never managed to curb.
Never rated him. Another england player who's built a career on his public image rather than his performances.
See I don't see him going abroad. Maybe he can replace Cech at Arsenal but thats not this or next season. Thats why I think he is done, he wont get a move to keep his flame on.
He's always been massively overrated by the English media, and was found out big time (again) during the Euros. Not surprised at all that Pep doesn't rate him.
Bingo.
There is not really a number of homegrown players that are required - they cannot have more than 17 overseas players in their 25 man squad. There was a Chelsea squad a few years back that only had 5 / 6 homegrown players and it meant that there was only 22 / 23 players in their squad.
Squad players are the ones not under 21, so some of City's players count that way.
I think the general theme of this thread is because we're United fans and he plays for City. He's a very good goalkeeper. He's made a few mistakes in 10 fecking years, but he's also had several ridiculous one-man barricade performances.
Bravo may be a better #10 than him, but I'd be surprised if he was much better at keeping the ball out of the net, unless we're working on the premise that he himself will not make any mistakes during his City career.
Bravo may be a better #10 than him, but I'd be surprised if he was much better at keeping the ball out of the net, unless we're working on the premise that he himself will not make any mistakes during his City career.
Yeah he is better than de gea by that logic
de gea is 5 years younger, and i expect him to win the lot by the time he's 29-30
His season on loan at Birmingham was better than any season he had at City.
Disagree. He's the new Paul Robinson but with a better PR team and hair products.
Paul Robinson was also a very good goalkeeper, until he became a rubbish one.
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