Joe Hart being unceremoniously f××ked off by Citeh
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even if he had a good EURO, Guardiola will still not use him, not Pep's kind of GK.
Yeah have no love for him. A colleague of mine heard from her girlfriend, who works in fashion and did a photoshoot with him, that he's an absolute tool (I know that's a bit of a 'my mate's dad lives round the corner from XXX's barber' type story but it corroborates my own view so I don't care).
He also sums up that 'passion' schtick so beloved of charlatans up and down this country. He was great at shouting in the tunnel before the Euros matches but then froze when it actually mattered.
He also sums up that 'passion' schtick so beloved of charlatans up and down this country. He was great at shouting in the tunnel before the Euros matches but then froze when it actually mattered.
Did @Eyepopper actually bother to type Alt 0215 in place of x's (or copy them from the internet) in "f××ked" in the thread title? 
Surely it's easier to use x's instead?
Surely it's easier to use x's instead?Indeed, I dont care either because it s city
but it really is pretty classless way to treat him
I don't think Bravo is a much better keeper than him. And Hart seemed to have a good relationship with the players and fans...it's an odd way to go about it by Pep
Bravo isnt a top keeper though, he just does a good sweeper keeper job thats why Pep is buying him
Everton would be a good move for Hart. They are his level.
Think he might struggle in the PL given his lack of height.
Guardiola obviously planning to monopolise ball possession so the opposition don't have the opportunity to test him with crosses.
Pep is a bully who should go to jail for this! White text
Dont really understand that opinion tbh
I doubt he'd be that happy about not even making the bench and i'd imagine he'd be a pretty expensive 3rd choice keeper.
Its a harsh business but being sentimental isn't going to help anyone.
If the manager doesn't plan on using a player then selling him is just practical
Nah, sign bravo and get them to fight for the number one spot for a year would be the better way to go about it. Similar to Cech and Courtois
And if hart fails to win the place then leave next season
This is the pertinent question of this threadDid @Eyepopper actually bother to type Alt 0215 in place of x's (or copy them from the internet) in "f××ked" in the thread title?
Managers like Pep and Mourinho have always been ruthless in matters like this. The first thing Pep did at Barca was get rid of popular players like Ronaldinho and Deco which didn't go down well with the fans at the time.
That is not going to happen. Pep will only want players that can play his game.
I wonder how much City will end up paying in wages to get him to go away.
I don't think the Euros played any part in Guardiola's decision making. Hart simply isn't the type of keeper he likes for his system. A successful tournament wouldn't have changed that.
Apart from how Pep dislike Hart, the signing of Claudio Bravo is an significant improve for their defense, just like when Sir Alex signed Van der Sar back in 2005.
Tbh, he'd be an upgrade for the likes of Everton or West Ham, but bang average at the top level. Bravo's far better.
Did @Eyepopper actually bother to type Alt 0215 in place of x's (or copy them from the internet) in "f××ked" in the thread title?
I was wondering the same. Actually care more about this than the future of Joe Hart, to be honest.
My advice to Joe? Keep your hair on, it'll be your only source of income soon.
How it is classless not playing a player that the manager thinks isn't god enough to play for him and lacks completely one of the main attributes of what the manager wants of his keeper?
Just because he has been there for 9 years or so, doesn't mean that he can continue there forever while destroying the manager's plans. If things go bad, the manager gets sacked because of the results, the least you can give him is the freedom of not playing the players he thinks aren't good enough.
If only Mourinho would have the bravery of doing the same to our overpriced overprotected English player, I guess that most of us will be delighted.
Guardiola said that if Hart wants to stay, he is free to do so, but in order to play, he needs to improve a lot.
If Hart wasn't English and the darling of the media, no one would have given a shit that an overrated keeper who lacks the basic attributes of what the manager wants from his keeper isn't the first choice anymore.
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Bravo isn't on the same level as VDS and I don't think he will improve them much if at all. I think it's a pretty bizarre decision tbh
They're daft if they pay that. City have no bargaining power.
Didn't you read the memo? If not the jist of it is this; when an English player spends a number of years at one club he becomes bigger than the club, his ego more important than the aspirations of the team so he obviously needs ceremonies and treaties for him to be dropped. Pep hasn't been as brutal with him as Mourinho has been with Schweinsteiger but it's classless for him to hold an opinion that another player is better.
It feels more like Pep is making a statement to his team - nobody is safe. A bit like we have done with Schweinsteiger.
It will be interesting to see how he media reacts to the first gaffe by Bravo. I reckon he'll be scrutinized in the same way that De Gea was in his first season here, considering he's keeping Brave King Joseph Lionhart out of the team.
If the media shitstorm doesn't happen I hope Mourinho sees his opportunity and gets on the phone to Phat Wang Kah FC about a bargain deal for Rooney.
If the media shitstorm doesn't happen I hope Mourinho sees his opportunity and gets on the phone to Phat Wang Kah FC about a bargain deal for Rooney.
Liverpool should be in for him, unless that injured keeper they got from the Bundesliga is better.
Hart hasn't always been bad, he's made 250+ appearance for them and spent 10 years at the club, he's dropped and forced out but it's put down to Guardiola rebuilding the team.
Mourinho drops schweinsteiger who had 1 injury riddled season and the few games he did play he was bang average yet he gets slated in the press.
I'm also not worried about Bravo either, they're replacing 1 average keeper in hart with another average keeper that has the ability to pass out from the back.
Mourinho drops schweinsteiger who had 1 injury riddled season and the few games he did play he was bang average yet he gets slated in the press.
I'm also not worried about Bravo either, they're replacing 1 average keeper in hart with another average keeper that has the ability to pass out from the back.
I know Hart is a bit of a tit and prone to high-profile errors but he's largely a good keeper - to replace him at the end of the window with a keeper that's 33 years old and never played in the league seems hugely risky to me, although I can't say that I've seen that much of Bravo.
Hes probably more of an all rounder really. Pep wants a keeper who can do rabonas, with a bit of saving on the side.
City want £30m for him. 
- 10 years at the club
- 266 first team appearance
- Premier League Golden Glove: 10–11, 11–12, 12–13, 14–15
- Premier League PFA Team of the Year: 09–10, 11–12
- PL winner 11-12, 13-14 and other wins
Bravo is as good as Hart while also being decent on ball playing which is arguably more important to Guardiola than the pure goalkeeping abilities.
I shouldn't be feeling this way but I can't explain why I feel so sorry for Joe Hart. He deserves better.
Steke has been great in his first two games so it would be harsh to drop him but Koeman seems like the type of manager that doesn't want a great player with an average back up, he wants like for like replacements. Excellent to have that much quality in the squad. Id welcome Hart tbh after Howard in the last couple of years...
Bravo is a decent at best keeper. Other than his ball playing he isn't better than hart at all.
This. Said it in the other thread about Hart. I don't get all this crying about City disrespecting Hart. It's the managers choice.
Hart's not a bad keeper, but he has limitations. Pep wants every player to be involved in the possession football, and Joe Hart's signature sliced punts into touch obviously don't contribute to that approach. He also made a couple of blunders at the Euros, which doesn't help his case. Pep wants a keeper who can support the back four and be an option for a pass, and to play a pass. Never been Hart's strong suit. Its no slight on him, as not all goalkeepers are ball-players. He just doesn't fit Pep's profile.
It doesn't matter a jot how long Hart has been there, or if he was there pre-Mansour. If he doesn't fit the bill, then the manager replaces him. I think Pep has shown a lot of guts to bin a fan favourite to aid his style of football. Keeping him despite his detriment to what Pep wants his team to do would be weak and poor management.
I guess Pep has earned the right to do what he feels is right but it all seems pretty arrogant to me - to dismiss the importance of, as you say, pure goalkeeping in such a physical league is a massive risk, which obviously we all hope is one that doesn't pay off.
Ya, thought that as well. Even the freekick goal he left in against Betis, it was a weak hand and should have actually saved it. Something Hart is also dodgey at.
Mou drops Bastian, FIFPro called on by Rumeniggee. Lifelong City player Hart dropped and and shown the door, Pep just doing his job. Love how we piss off the world again
I don't see why so many people are getting bent out of shape about this. Yes, he's been there a while, but he's also had more than enough occasions where his head has gone, subsequently turning him useless for a period. If Pep thinks he's a potential liability, or just plainly isn't good enough, then surely he has a duty to get rid. It's not as if he's a young player, he's a seasoned Pro.
Plus, I thought Pep said if he stays he'll make him a proper WC goalkeeper by improving his weaknesses (ref: TalkSport). IF that is the case, it's a challenge laid at his feet for him to rise to. I mean, he is a professional. If he doesn't want to leave then surely he's got to show he has the balls to take up the challenge. If that is the case.
Plus, I thought Pep said if he stays he'll make him a proper WC goalkeeper by improving his weaknesses (ref: TalkSport). IF that is the case, it's a challenge laid at his feet for him to rise to. I mean, he is a professional. If he doesn't want to leave then surely he's got to show he has the balls to take up the challenge. If that is the case.
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