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Gary learned something in Spain, that's for certain
You seem very passionate about this subject. Like I said it doesn't concern me, if anything a bit of unrest at the club would be a good thing.How it is classless not playing a player that the manager thinks isn't god enough to play for him and lacks completely one of the main attributes of what the manager wants of his keeper?
Just because he has been there for 9 years or so, doesn't mean that he can continue there forever while destroying the manager's plans. If things go bad, the manager gets sacked because of the results, the least you can give him is the freedom of not playing the players he thinks aren't good enough.
If only Mourinho would have the bravery of doing the same to our overpriced overprotected English player, I guess that most of us will be delighted.
Guardiola said that if Hart wants to stay, he is free to do so, but in order to play, he needs to improve a lot.
If Hart wasn't English and the darling of the media, no one would have given a shit that an overrated keeper who lacks the basic attributes of what the manager wants from his keeper isn't the first choice anymore.
Counts for nothing
- 10 years at the club
- 266 first team appearance
- Premier League Golden Glove: 10–11, 11–12, 12–13, 14–15
- Premier League PFA Team of the Year: 09–10, 11–12
- PL winner 11-12, 13-14 and other wins
Gary learned something in Spain, that's for certain
You obviously are taking issue with the identity of his replacement, isn't Caballero a professional footballer? Would you rather Pep wasted his time with a player he doesn't rate? I think Pep is within his rights to prefer another keeper and what Hart has achieved previously shouldn't be a factor in his decisions - the only place for history is the anals and the history channel. You earn points on how you are playing now, ask Liverpool fans they seem to be catching on to that reality.You seem very passionate about this subject. Like I said it doesn't concern me, if anything a bit of unrest at the club would be a good thing.
But I still don't agree it's how you should treat any 1st team player no matter where they are from
He has been unceremoniously dumped and clearly its barely even a token gesture to suggest he can stay to fight, dropping him for Caballero is all the notice he needs
With Valdes it was a bust up with Van Gaal, it was personal not a technical issue which clearly it is with Hart and Pep. He certainly could have stayed and tried to learn whatever Pep demands of him before running away.For a big name goalkeeper to stay at a club where the manager doesn't want you and doesn't consider you as a first teamer is very smart. Just ask Valdes. Where is he now?
No wonder this man made a fool of himself as manager and coach
He was never a good keeper. He reminds me of a poor man's Sebastiano Rossi who rode over the success of others (or OShea/Phil Neville)
With Valdes it was a bust up with Van Gaal, it was personal not a technical issue which clearly it is with Hart and Pep. He certainly could have stayed and tried to learn whatever Pep demands of him before running away.
With Valdes it was a bust up with Van Gaal, it was personal not a technical issue which clearly it is with Hart and Pep. He certainly could have stayed and tried to learn whatever Pep demands of him before running away.
Can't say he wasn't a good keeper. He was never the best but he was a very reliable keeper for a long time.
So how should you treat a 1st team player who's no longer part of the 1st team plans? How can you replace him "respectfully"?You seem very passionate about this subject. Like I said it doesn't concern me, if anything a bit of unrest at the club would be a good thing.
But I still don't agree it's how you should treat any 1st team player no matter where they are from
He has been unceremoniously dumped and clearly its barely even a token gesture to suggest he can stay to fight, dropping him for Caballero is all the notice he needs
Hes an everton/ saints type of keeper. Shitty are better than that
Yes he is, he's been brilliant for years for Chile. Vastly underrated in England and a level above Hart.Bravo isnt a top keeper though, he just does a good sweeper keeper job thats why Pep is buying him
Everton would be a good move for Hart. They are his level.
If that was the case, would he get offers from teams in CL like Dortmund and Sevilla? Bravo isn't better than him in shot stopping at all.
I think Hart's failings in recent times have been well documented but I think the reasons for him being dropped are more to do with him being poor with his feet and his questionable mentality. He isn't the brightest and he's a dick.
It will be hard for him to change his game to something that Pep wants.
He knew for ages Pep was going to be his manager and everyone knows the attributes Pep looks for in a keeper. As such he either hasn't been working on these attributes in the months leading up to now, in which case more fool him, or he has and has proved incapable of attaining the necessary level. Either way is not going to convince Pep he's his man.
Does anyone else think the amount of bad media attention we've received over schwein vs Hart is unfair?
You've got a top brass at city coming out with statements saying it's best he leaves, as well as pep. We've kept our mouth shut yet seem to be coming out worse than city.
Apparently they both weren't too happy with the provision and both wanted to be number 1. Barca had to make a decision and they chose Stegen purely based on his age.
Age thing, Bravo is 33 and doesn't have much left while Ter Stegen is quite young for a goalkeeper and very talented.
Bravo was the league keeper, ter Stegen was the cup keeper. But they are probably pretty equal and ter Stegen is far younger
The latter has the greater potential and has requested a bigger role this season I believe. Bravo is 33 too, so if it became a question of one or the other, Ter Stegen wins despite currently being the weaker goalkeeper.
I don't know if it has been said already, but a couple of months ago who would have put money on a double of Hart being booted out and Fellaini getting a new contract?
Football, bloody hell.
He knew for ages Pep was going to be his manager and everyone knows the attributes Pep looks for in a keeper. As such he either hasn't been working on these attributes in the months leading up to now, in which case more fool him, or he has and has proved incapable of attaining the necessary level. Either way is not going to convince Pep he's his man.
It would have been cool if we signed Bravo when Rio was still here. Then our defensive spine would have been Rio Bravo.