Joe Hart being unceremoniously f××ked off by Citeh

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How it is classless not playing a player that the manager thinks isn't god enough to play for him and lacks completely one of the main attributes of what the manager wants of his keeper?

Just because he has been there for 9 years or so, doesn't mean that he can continue there forever while destroying the manager's plans. If things go bad, the manager gets sacked because of the results, the least you can give him is the freedom of not playing the players he thinks aren't good enough.

If only Mourinho would have the bravery of doing the same to our overpriced overprotected English player, I guess that most of us will be delighted.


Guardiola said that if Hart wants to stay, he is free to do so, but in order to play, he needs to improve a lot.

If Hart wasn't English and the darling of the media, no one would have given a shit that an overrated keeper who lacks the basic attributes of what the manager wants from his keeper isn't the first choice anymore.
You seem very passionate about this subject. Like I said it doesn't concern me, if anything a bit of unrest at the club would be a good thing.

But I still don't agree it's how you should treat any 1st team player no matter where they are from

He has been unceremoniously dumped and clearly its barely even a token gesture to suggest he can stay to fight, dropping him for Caballero is all the notice he needs
 
  • 10 years at the club
  • 266 first team appearance
  • Premier League Golden Glove: 10–11, 11–12, 12–13, 14–15
  • Premier League PFA Team of the Year: 09–10, 11–12
  • PL winner 11-12, 13-14 and other wins
Counts for nothing :D

He was never a good keeper. He reminds me of a poor man's Sebastiano Rossi who rode over the success of others (or OShea/Phil Neville)
 
Gary learned something in Spain, that's for certain



For a big name goalkeeper to stay at a club where the manager doesn't want you and doesn't consider you as a first teamer is very smart. Just ask Valdes. Where is he now?

No wonder this man made a fool of himself as manager and coach
 
Not that part, the part about how keepers train in Spain

But sure, you could argue that instead of Hart throwing his toys out of the pram, he could've stayed to fight & learn - he chose the easy option. Victor never did that, he won everything there is to win first.
 
You seem very passionate about this subject. Like I said it doesn't concern me, if anything a bit of unrest at the club would be a good thing.

But I still don't agree it's how you should treat any 1st team player no matter where they are from

He has been unceremoniously dumped and clearly its barely even a token gesture to suggest he can stay to fight, dropping him for Caballero is all the notice he needs
You obviously are taking issue with the identity of his replacement, isn't Caballero a professional footballer? Would you rather Pep wasted his time with a player he doesn't rate? I think Pep is within his rights to prefer another keeper and what Hart has achieved previously shouldn't be a factor in his decisions - the only place for history is the anals and the history channel. You earn points on how you are playing now, ask Liverpool fans they seem to be catching on to that reality.
 
For a big name goalkeeper to stay at a club where the manager doesn't want you and doesn't consider you as a first teamer is very smart. Just ask Valdes. Where is he now?

No wonder this man made a fool of himself as manager and coach
With Valdes it was a bust up with Van Gaal, it was personal not a technical issue which clearly it is with Hart and Pep. He certainly could have stayed and tried to learn whatever Pep demands of him before running away.
 
He was never a good keeper. He reminds me of a poor man's Sebastiano Rossi who rode over the success of others (or OShea/Phil Neville)

Can't say he wasn't a good keeper. He was never the best but he was a very reliable keeper for a long time.
 
With Valdes it was a bust up with Van Gaal, it was personal not a technical issue which clearly it is with Hart and Pep. He certainly could have stayed and tried to learn whatever Pep demands of him before running away.

Hart is not a ball playing keeper and he will never be. It's like asking gaz to be like Zanetti. That's not possible. At this point he's better off leaving before he ends up forgotten
 
With Valdes it was a bust up with Van Gaal, it was personal not a technical issue which clearly it is with Hart and Pep. He certainly could have stayed and tried to learn whatever Pep demands of him before running away.

The bust up was because valdes decided that doing what the manager asks you to do was beneath him.
 
The media making a big deal out of this. :lol: It was clear from the moment Pep was announced as the next City manager that Hart would be dropped.

Someone here posted a statistic not that long ago where Hart had the worst passing accuracy of any goalkeeper in the top 5 leagues. Unacceptable in modern football and even more so for a Pep team.
 
Can't say he wasn't a good keeper. He was never the best but he was a very reliable keeper for a long time.

Hes an everton/ saints type of keeper. Shitty are better than that
 
To think that in DDG's first two seasons he was slaughtered by the English tabloids, while Joe BraveHart was held up as a shining beacon of light and Buffon mach2.

This hurts the buffoons in the English press even today, you can tell by how they just last season begrudgingly started to talk about DDG as the undisputed best in the PL. Even now some tossers try to pass of LLoris, Cech and Courtois as being on his level.
 
You seem very passionate about this subject. Like I said it doesn't concern me, if anything a bit of unrest at the club would be a good thing.

But I still don't agree it's how you should treat any 1st team player no matter where they are from

He has been unceremoniously dumped and clearly its barely even a token gesture to suggest he can stay to fight, dropping him for Caballero is all the notice he needs
So how should you treat a 1st team player who's no longer part of the 1st team plans? How can you replace him "respectfully"? :confused:
 
Hart convinced Stones to sign too.

He must be feeling real bitter about the club right now.
 
Hes the epitome of the "but hes a great shot stopper" argument.

He wouldn't even be a fecking goal keeper if he was a bad shot stopper:

"yeah he commands his box really well, great at collecting corners, fecking wank at shot stopping though".

Sign him up!
 
Hes an everton/ saints type of keeper. Shitty are better than that

If that was the case, would he get offers from teams in CL like Dortmund and Sevilla? Bravo isn't better than him in shot stopping at all.
 
Bravo isnt a top keeper though, he just does a good sweeper keeper job thats why Pep is buying him

Everton would be a good move for Hart. They are his level.
Yes he is, he's been brilliant for years for Chile. Vastly underrated in England and a level above Hart.
 
If that was the case, would he get offers from teams in CL like Dortmund and Sevilla? Bravo isn't better than him in shot stopping at all.

Maybe it's because they aren't top clubs? Dortmund and Seville are decent clubs but shitty are aiming higher to simply being Barcelona/real/bayern bitches.

Pep is a philosophy type of manager and Hart doesn't fit that philosophy. He's better of with those two clubs rather then rot in the reserves
 
Does anyone else think the amount of bad media attention we've received over schwein vs Hart is unfair?

You've got a top brass at city coming out with statements saying it's best he leaves, as well as pep. We've kept our mouth shut yet seem to be coming out worse than city.
 
He knew for ages Pep was going to be his manager and everyone knows the attributes Pep looks for in a keeper. As such he either hasn't been working on these attributes in the months leading up to now, in which case more fool him, or he has and has proved incapable of attaining the necessary level. Either way is not going to convince Pep he's his man.
 
I think Hart's failings in recent times have been well documented but I think the reasons for him being dropped are more to do with him being poor with his feet and his questionable mentality. He isn't the brightest and he's a dick.

It will be hard for him to change his game to something that Pep wants.
 
I think Hart's failings in recent times have been well documented but I think the reasons for him being dropped are more to do with him being poor with his feet and his questionable mentality. He isn't the brightest and he's a dick.

It will be hard for him to change his game to something that Pep wants.

But apart from that he's a thoroughly nice chap.

Who would buy him after all the howlers and the obvious high salary he'll be on?
 
I don't know if it has been said already, but a couple of months ago who would have put money on a double of Hart being booted out and Fellaini getting a new contract?

Football, bloody hell.
 
To be honest I've never rated him that highly anyway. He's obviously a good keeper, but definitely got the English hype train and bought into it himself.

He has a big problem now as to who would want him. The top teams are pretty sorted in that area and his wages will be silly. I wonder if City will pay part in that regard just to get him off the books.
 
I think the Hart situation is similar to the Schweinsteiger at United. Now I don't think that Hart is a top keeper but he is better than Caballero who was absolute garbage on the ball yesterday for City. Pep isn't even giving Hart a shot to prove himself and Soriano has basically told him to leave the club. It is the same with Schweinsteiger at United, told to leave without even being given a chance. I'm sure BS could do a job for us in the Euro and League Cup this season and his personality could be good for the dressing room. It is seems to me that both Pep and Mou are making power plays and establishing their authority on their new clubs. Not that I think Hart or Schweinsteiger have a future at either club but they could both be given a chance to fail at least.
 
He knew for ages Pep was going to be his manager and everyone knows the attributes Pep looks for in a keeper. As such he either hasn't been working on these attributes in the months leading up to now, in which case more fool him, or he has and has proved incapable of attaining the necessary level. Either way is not going to convince Pep he's his man.

He's too lazy, i dont see improvement, just sliding down to mediocrity.

De gea on the other hands keeps on improving
 
Does anyone else think the amount of bad media attention we've received over schwein vs Hart is unfair?

You've got a top brass at city coming out with statements saying it's best he leaves, as well as pep. We've kept our mouth shut yet seem to be coming out worse than city.

They have the narrative that they are so classy & the best run club in world football. It's slowly starting to fall apart.

They polluted the game with the petro dollar. Had their pants pulled down with Mangala. Kept MP around as a dead man walking. Now they are binning off someone who has been there from the start.
 
Apparently they both weren't too happy with the provision and both wanted to be number 1. Barca had to make a decision and they chose Stegen purely based on his age.

Age thing, Bravo is 33 and doesn't have much left while Ter Stegen is quite young for a goalkeeper and very talented.

Bravo was the league keeper, ter Stegen was the cup keeper. But they are probably pretty equal and ter Stegen is far younger

The latter has the greater potential and has requested a bigger role this season I believe. Bravo is 33 too, so if it became a question of one or the other, Ter Stegen wins despite currently being the weaker goalkeeper.

Cheers lads.
 
I don't know if it has been said already, but a couple of months ago who would have put money on a double of Hart being booted out and Fellaini getting a new contract?

Football, bloody hell.

Guardiola not liking a goalkeeper who is really poor in an aspect of the game Pep deems as vital. Not a surprise for me

Mourinho liking Fellaini who is physically very strong and a very hard worker with a good mentality. Not a surprise for me
 
He knew for ages Pep was going to be his manager and everyone knows the attributes Pep looks for in a keeper. As such he either hasn't been working on these attributes in the months leading up to now, in which case more fool him, or he has and has proved incapable of attaining the necessary level. Either way is not going to convince Pep he's his man.

Hart will never become a ball playing keeper. Its like teaching Gaz how to dribble on a regular basis because the manager want to have full backs like Zanetti on the rear flanks
 
Probably deserved but still surprising that he got axed after some bad performances in an international tournament.
 
Liverpool should go for him. Serious upgrade on Mignolet
 
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