Joao Felix | Signed for Atlético Madrid

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Felix is a AAA-Talent, which reminds me of Kaka. Technique, pace, shot, intelligence. Would love to see him in La Liga.
 
Griezmann was close to getting the balloon dor. If France had won the Euros, he would have got it.

That said, Zlatan's vision was really good, even as good as that of Messi. He was used mostly as a pure striker while he was with us but he's got terrific vision on him. In fact, it was his playmaking style that endeared him to Barca fans in his earlier start with them and got on Messi's nerves who probably thought Zlatan wanted to upstage him as the main man because fans were constantly hollering Zlatan's name in every match until the fall out which was because he was moved to the wing to accommodate Messi in the central role. His dribbling wasn't as good as that of Messi but so are many players. You're quite right about the fact that he didn't make use of his heading ability enough unlike Cristiano but Zlatan was more physical on the ball and very hard to dispossess unlike Cristiano. His hold up play was really quality.

He wasn’t useless, but it was more than just being more clinical that set him apart from them. He’s nowhere near as good as you’re implying. Hazard is closer to Messi than he was, and perhaps if HE was more of a goal scorer, then he could have been in a similar bracket to the other two.

As I’ve said earlier, I’ve seen little to suggest that Felix will become a better player than Carlos Tevez or Firmino. Not yet anyway.
 
He wasn’t useless, but it was more than just being more clinical that set him apart from them. He’s nowhere near as good as you’re implying. Hazard is closer to Messi than he was, and perhaps if HE was more of a goal scorer, then he could have been in a similar bracket to the other two.

As I’ve said earlier, I’ve seen little to suggest that Felix will become a better player than Carlos Tevez or Firmino. Not yet anyway.

Hazard is good, especially his dribbling but his vision isn't that great.

As for Felix, I think he's capable of slotting into the striker role for us. He's got roughly the same frame as Rashford but with much more better technique and linkup play and not to mention his vision, aerial threat and two footedness. Rashford has got better pace than him though.
 
I know. The point I'm trying to make is PSG took a gamble. Many people still thought they needed to wait abother year to see his true level. I remember his thread very well.
If Felix has another year like this one, we will be regretting giving others a chance to sign him. If we have the money now and we are convibced of his quality, do it now.

This is exactly my view.

Maybe not £120m, but if we could get him for anything between £60m - £90m I say go for it.
 
I know. The point I'm trying to make is PSG took a gamble. Many people still thought they needed to wait abother year to see his true level. I remember his thread very well.
If Felix has another year like this one, we will be regretting giving others a chance to sign him. If we have the money now and we are convibced of his quality, do it now.
Especially in our state where we are not first choices for the best talents in the world, we need to take that bit of risk to land a world class player. This is where the scouts should be earning their money.
 
Felix this year and Sancho next. That should be the plan. Then you end up with a fluid front 3 of Rashford, Felix and Sancho. Would be amazing. And eminently doable.
 
100 million should be for superstars or players of renown. He is slightly above a nobody. Max 70 given this market.
 
The kid has alot of Talent . I'm all for paying a bit over , people talk on here all the time about getting the next Who ever but then pick holes in young players .
Buy the emerging talent Felix de ligt etc go after them all and give them time, let's get the excitement back
 
If we were to buy him, assuming we play a 433 that Ole played when he first joined, then where would Felix play?
Currently he has a free role playing behind the striker at Benfica. My sense is that the number 10 role is his ideal position. He reminds me a lot about Rui Costa of Portugal back in the day. If we sign him and adopt a 4-3-3, I wouldn't want him on the wings but as one of the 'eights' or attacking central midfielders but I reckon we wouldn't be tight at the back. If we play 4-3-3, the best fit would be for him to play as the false 9 but he'd still be wasted.

If we sign him, I'd want us to use a 4-4-2 diamond thus:

Martial Felix
Pogba
Ndidi Rabiot
Neves

Shaw Lindelof De Ligt Cancelo
De Gea
This guy looks a generational talent. We'd win the league with the above starting 11!
 
Well United can expect to pay over the odds because CL isn’t an attraction to sign players unfortunately. To compensate for this we have to blow all other suitors out of the water. It’s just the way it is.
 
Currently he has a free role playing behind the striker at Benfica. My sense is that the number 10 role is his ideal position. He reminds me a lot about Rui Costa of Portugal back in the day. If we sign him and adopt a 4-3-3, I wouldn't want him on the wings but as one of the 'eights' or attacking central midfielders but I reckon we wouldn't be tight at the back. If we play 4-3-3, the best fit would be for him to play as the false 9 but he'd still be wasted.

If we sign him, I'd want us to use a 4-4-2 diamond thus:

Martial Felix
Pogba
Ndidi Rabiot
Neves

Shaw Lindelof De Ligt Cancelo
De Gea
This guy looks a generational talent. We'd win the league with the above starting 11!
Well yeah but that’s 6 very expensive, unbelievable signings mate. People on here need a suppin of reality, we’d be lucky to sign 1/2 of those players now a days.
 
Currently he has a free role playing behind the striker at Benfica. My sense is that the number 10 role is his ideal position. He reminds me a lot about Rui Costa of Portugal back in the day. If we sign him and adopt a 4-3-3, I wouldn't want him on the wings but as one of the 'eights' or attacking central midfielders but I reckon we wouldn't be tight at the back. If we play 4-3-3, the best fit would be for him to play as the false 9 but he'd still be wasted.

If we sign him, I'd want us to use a 4-4-2 diamond thus:

Martial Felix
Pogba
Ndidi Rabiot
Neves

Shaw Lindelof De Ligt Cancelo
De Gea
This guy looks a generational talent. We'd win the league with the above starting 11!

6 signings even those Ole has adamantly said we won't sign as many as 6?
Plus 3 in centre mid!? Incredible scenes.
 
6 signings even those Ole has adamantly said we won't sign as many as 6?
Plus 3 in centre mid!? Incredible scenes.
Well yeah but that’s 6 very expensive, unbelievable signings mate. People on here need a suppin of reality, we’d be lucky to sign 1/2 of those players now a days.
Argghhh you two brought me back to reality. This would be a helluva team but I have to admit that getting all these players would be very very difficult as well as expensive.
 
Currently he has a free role playing behind the striker at Benfica. My sense is that the number 10 role is his ideal position. He reminds me a lot about Rui Costa of Portugal back in the day. If we sign him and adopt a 4-3-3, I wouldn't want him on the wings but as one of the 'eights' or attacking central midfielders but I reckon we wouldn't be tight at the back. If we play 4-3-3, the best fit would be for him to play as the false 9 but he'd still be wasted.

If we sign him, I'd want us to use a 4-4-2 diamond thus:

Martial Felix
Pogba
Ndidi Rabiot
Neves

Shaw Lindelof De Ligt Cancelo
De Gea
This guy looks a generational talent. We'd win the league with the above starting 11!

100 + 60 + 0 + 80 + 80 + 60 = 380m . Good luck with it.

Martial - Felix
-------- Pogba
Partey - Rabiot
--------- Matic
Shaw-lindeloff-Deligt-Cancelo

100 + 50 + 80 + 60 = 280m

Much more realistic. Upgrade Matic and Shaw next year.
 
Argghhh you two brought me back to reality. This would be a helluva team but I have to admit that getting all these players would be very very difficult as well as expensive.

Think more a centre mid you've never heard of, a 30m right back, and a few promising youth team players.
That'll be our lot.
 
Rashford/Martial - Greenwood*
Felix/Martial​
Shaw - Pogba - Rabiot - Wan Bissaka
De ligt - Rice - Lindelof
Henderson
* Pepe or Sancho when available/ money

A 352 with the defensive capacity of a 532 but the offensive capacity of a 2-3-5
 
This guy will be a star. His understanding is beyond his years. Don't base your judgement about him on youtube clips because he does a lot more in build up to attacks, he's got a very excellent vision too and knows where tge goal is. People that mention he has something of Kaka about him aren't wrong.

My only concern is that he may get bullied quite a bit in the PL and so he needs to bulk up a little bit. That shouldn't be hard for him to do I guess.
 
Rashford/Martial - Greenwood*
Felix/Martial​
Shaw - Pogba - Rabiot - Wan Bissaka
De ligt - Rice - Lindelof
Henderson
* Pepe or Sancho when available/ money

A 352 with the defensive capacity of a 532 but the offensive capacity of a 2-3-5
Problem with that is the wing backs just shits on the ball.
 
Currently he has a free role playing behind the striker at Benfica. My sense is that the number 10 role is his ideal position. He reminds me a lot about Rui Costa of Portugal back in the day. If we sign him and adopt a 4-3-3, I wouldn't want him on the wings but as one of the 'eights' or attacking central midfielders but I reckon we wouldn't be tight at the back. If we play 4-3-3, the best fit would be for him to play as the false 9 but he'd still be wasted.

If we sign him, I'd want us to use a 4-4-2 diamond thus:

Martial Felix
Pogba
Ndidi Rabiot
Neves

Shaw Lindelof De Ligt Cancelo
De Gea
This guy looks a generational talent. We'd win the league with the above starting 11!

I know Ole's been experimenting with a diamond, but with us supposedly in talks with James, being linked to other wingers and Ole talking about playing the 'United way', I personally can't see us going into next season without wingers or at least one winger.

Maybe Ole will bring the 442 back to United. He has used it a few times since joining, more notably against PSG and Arsenal, where we played quite well in both games, despite losing against Arsenal.

The game against PSG we set up with:

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Going back to Joao Felix, he plays on the right side of a front two for Benfica, so he'd be walking into the same system.

He's similar to Wayne Rooney, in that he plays up top but likes to get involved in the build play - a second striker, if you like.

This is why I think Lukaku would benefit from a 442 system and a player like Felix next to him.

When Sir Alex played his 442, he always had a striker who could link play (Rooney, Welbeck, Yorke, Cantona, Tevez, Berbatov) and a main striker (Van Nistelrooy, Cole, Van Persie).

At present, Lukaku is asked to get involved in our build up play too much, and he doesn't excel in doing that. He's a poacher, who, given the service, will score goals.

I would like to see a 442 back at United. Something like:

Lukaku Felix
Pogba Ndidi Rabiot Bergwijn
Shaw Lindelof De Ligt Meunier
De Gea


 
Not seeing the Kaka similarities much, who was quick and loved to carry the ball

This guys looks more like Berbatov
 
Great prospect but that's not the market we are shopping in this window. Those types of transfer are for when you already have square begs in the right holes....no different to signing CR where he's was coming into a team already full of talent....
 
Great prospect but that's not the market we are shopping in this window. Those types of transfer are for when you already have square begs in the right holes....no different to signing CR where he's was coming into a team already full of talent....

Problem is other teams don't wait.
 
With all the holes we need to plug, going for this kid would be irresponsible. Every chance he turns out a flop in the EPL, given his lack of size, speed & exposure to big game matches. And for the price quoted... I just don't think he's worth it.

Jovic or Milik any day if we're looking for strikers. Fernandes, Sancho, Ziyech, Griezmann, Dybala, Pepe, Chiesa, Fekir if we're looking for 10s/second strikers. Hell even James Rodriguez or Isco are safer bets compared to this youngster.
 
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