Joao Felix / on loan to Chelsea

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If we loan him and he performs well for us as false 9, it would be a much safer risk to splash money on him in the summer than on the likes of Osimhen or Kane

Simple questions: do you think Joao Felix will score the goals we need to secure at least a top four spot?

Do you think he will improve our team, or upset the balance of our team?

Where will he play? As a No 9? Because he is not a No 9.

He will not join to sit on the bench.
 
I think this is a pretty fair deal once there's a way that if he's shite we can pull out of the deal

If that tweet is correct, then we can’t as we will have an obligation as part of the loan deal to sign him for £70M. It’s different if it was an option to buy.
 
I don’t understand why so many are in favour of Felix, we need an out and out striker not a playmaking deep forward, he won’t score us goals.

I thought we’d moved past the signings of luxury players that don’t fit the club.
 
If we have "committed" to purchasing him, paying all his wages from the start of his tunure here... How would it be a loan.... The 9 would simply be a down-payment... If you want to be technical. It's not a loan. It's a permanent move.
 
If that tweet is correct, then we can’t as we will have an obligation as part of the loan deal to sign him for £70M. It’s different if it was an option to buy.
It sounds like they have basically put a fee on his head and to satisfy FFP, either for their books or the buying clubs, they’re delaying the sale until the summer. It would certainly suit us considering our finances.
 
For on obligation to buy him next summer our next owner would have to consent I'd assume? For this happen negotiations would have to be very close to completion is my guess? That's not happening
 
If we have "committed" to purchasing him, paying all his wages from the start of his tunure here... How would it be a loan.... The 9 would simply be a down-payment... If you want to be technical. It's not a loan. It's a permanent move.
A loan is a mechanism. If they choose to use that mechanism rather than a a transfer - as in they still hold his contract, then it’s definitely a loan.
 
If we have "committed" to purchasing him, paying all his wages from the start of his tunure here... How would it be a loan.... The 9 would simply be a down-payment... If you want to be technical. It's not a loan. It's a permanent move.
It’s not. Whether the parties intend for that £9m to be taken from the ultimate purchase price is immaterial. The loan fee is an agreed payment for the temporary transfer of his registration.
 
It sounds like they have basically put a fee on his head and to satisfy FFP, either for their books or the buying clubs, they’re delaying the sale until the summer. It would certainly suit us considering our finances.
It definitely sounds like that... Would probably suit both parties
 
It sounds like they have basically put a fee on his head and to satisfy FFP, either for their books or the buying clubs, they’re delaying the sale until the summer. It would certainly suit us considering our finances.

It's what I had in mind. These obligations to buy are nowadays a way to manage the books.
 
Why would we have any contractual first option on Joao felix... Probably miscommunication and more meant as "we are his first choice and would be informed if someone else wants him too".

Maybe both clubs agreed on a total package but Atletico wants more time to find a better option for themselves?
 
So basically now they are asking for 90m euros. Which is still high but still understandable now as agains those 130/140 number.

90m for a loan + option to buy package would be decent considering that 90m includes some performance based add ons

For an obligation its still high. But considering the hype around him is still not absurd.
Personally 90m for him or 90m or so for Mudryk both seem risky. Not sure which one we will get if any.
 
It’s not. Whether the parties intend for that £9m to be taken from the ultimate purchase price is immaterial. The loan fee is an agreed payment for the temporary transfer of his registration.
Yeh i get that but if we have some binding agreement that he has to be our permanent player immediately after then I don't see it as being some kind of loan any more. I get that there is some technicalities between the two and in a legal or financial sense its a loan , but in real terms it's basically a sale as we have "committed" to buying him.

If it's committed with caviets then fine because something can happen and he won't be ours in June if we were to go through with this. Get what my point?
 
Not sure how this can work in our situation. It would be easier with a simple option but an obligation? Would at least have to be disclosed to the buyer.

We don't have any situation and there is nothing preventing it from working. The current clubs employees have a duty to the club and the club doesn't have a buyer, as far as we know no one is in exclusive conversation for the purchase of the club. So there is no situation to manage, this deal is no different to any transfer, the club is managing its future as it should.
 
We don't have any situation and there is nothing preventing it from working. The current clubs employees have a duty to the club and the club doesn't have a buyer, as far as we know no one is in exclusive conversation for the purchase of the club. So there is no situation to manage, this deal is no different to any transfer, the club is managing its future as it should.

Yeah I guess if our sale process is that far off it wouldn't be an issue. Wouldn't be against it at all mind. Sounds a pretty fair deal in all honesty
 
Yeah I guess if our sale process is that far off it wouldn't be an issue.

It's not really a if. There is no scenario where the sale is close enough that the potential buyer has a say on how the club is currently run and it's not made public.
 
It's not really a if. There is no scenario where the sale is close enough that the potential buyer has a say on how the club is currently run and it's not made public.

I hope it's true then as I'd certainly like to see that lad here!
 
Not sure how this can work in our situation. It would be easier with a simple option but an obligation? Would at least have to be disclosed to the buyer.
It’s just another way of dressing a transfer. We already have many obligated transfer fees.

United are a business, it’s United that own these players and owe this money, not the Glazers. The owners are irrelevant really.
 
It’s just another way of dressing a transfer. We already have many obligated transfer fees.

United are a business, it’s United that own these players and owe this money, not the Glazers. The owners are irrelevant really.

Yeah very good point that. I see that this could work and I sure hope it will.
 
He should replace Bruno in the team.
Felix isn't good enough to lace Bruno's shoes.
As bad as Bruno can be sometimes , he still works hard and presses a lot. United is much worse without him

Im not against signing Felix but we likely wouldn't play him in his best position so what the point?
 
Having a guaranteed selling clause is encouraging but still having difficulty seeing where he would fit in, if we're looking at him as a long term option to spear head out attack that means we'd be moving on from the chance of getting someone like kane, play him in an attacking mid role and then what about Bruno?
 
He was better than Felix at the WC though and you’re suggesting we replace him with Felix..

Go figure
An incredibly small sample size so pretty much irrelevant. Felix has a much higher ceiling than Bruno. My opinion.
 
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