Joao Felix / on loan to Chelsea

[Bondi77]

I wonder why Atletico do not make a loan deal attractive to us or Arsenal as that would put Felix on show in the Premier League window and then they may get a big offer for him in the summer and recruit some of their huge outlay.
If Simeone is going to continue for the foreseeable future then they will be stuck with an unhappy player that will be less motivated to do his best for the team.
It seems short sighted on their part that they want money up front and his wages paid whereas they should be looking at moving an unhappy player on and getting a big fee in the summer.

 

[croadyman]

I wonder why Atletico do not make a loan deal attractive to us or Arsenal as that would put Felix on show in the Premier League window and then they may get a big offer for him in the summer and recruit some of their huge outlay.
If Simeone is going to continue for the foreseeable future then they will be stuck with an unhappy player that will be less motivated to do his best for the team.
It seems short sighted on their part that they want money up front and his wages paid whereas they should be looking at moving an unhappy player on and getting a big fee in the summer.

Yeah that would make sense but clearly they are happy to keep an unhappy player if us or Arsenal aren't willing to meet conditions of this loan deal

 

[Pronewbie]

I wonder why Atletico do not make a loan deal attractive to us or Arsenal as that would put Felix on show in the Premier League window and then they may get a big offer for him in the summer and recruit some of their huge outlay.
If Simeone is going to continue for the foreseeable future then they will be stuck with an unhappy player that will be less motivated to do his best for the team.
It seems short sighted on their part that they want money up front and his wages paid whereas they should be looking at moving an unhappy player on and getting a big fee in the summer.

But if he flops...

 

[Bondi77]

But if he flops...

He is flopping at the moment....isn't that the whole reason why they want to loan him out.

 

[croadyman]

He is flopping at the moment....isn't that the whole reason why they want to loan him out.

But is that due to not suiting Atletico's style

 

[Bondi77]

But is that due to not suiting Atletico's style

Either way....If Simeone is staying there it is in the club's interest to move him on and I don't hear of any interest from Barca or Real so putting him on show in England seems like the best way for them to get the biggest fee for him.

 

[Red the Bear]

@mazhar13
Sorry for bothering you mate, any progress?

 

[croadyman]

The problem with committing to a permanent deal is we don't know who our owners are going to be in the summer so it hands advantage to Arsenal

 

[mazhar13]

@mazhar13
Sorry for bothering you mate, any progress?

If there's any progress, then you'll see it both in the Transfer Tweets feed and this thread.

 

[Red the Bear]

If there's any progress, then you'll see it both in the Transfer Tweets feed and this thread.

Thanks, thought I missed something.

 

[ThatsGreat]

He is flopping at the moment....isn't that the whole reason why they want to loan him out.

Is he flopping though? The below video makes it look like he's bloody running their game. I think AtM would be very happy to keep him:

 

[croadyman]

Is he flopping though? The below video makes it look like he's bloody running their game. I think AtM would be very happy to keep him:

There is no smoke without fire when you look at those tweets about him not being happy,be interesting to see if he's left out of their squad for Barca tonight. I still think you are the favourites due to stable ownership

 

[ThatsGreat]

There is no smoke without fire when you look at those tweets about him not being happy,be interesting to see if he's left out of their squad for Barca tonight. I still think you are the favourites due to stable ownership

Yeah, but it looks like Felix is plan B for us if Mudryk falls through. Which make sense seeing as GJ(when he returns) and Odegaard have the first team locked up, whereas a wide man will find more game time. Personally would prefer having Felix in the team over Mudryk, but I'll go with whatever the professionals decide.

 

[Mainoldo]

Is he flopping though? The below video makes it look like he's bloody running their game. I think AtM would be very happy to keep him:

Go watch Sancho 22/23 you’ll have your answer.

 

[mitchmouse]

Not worried by the loan fee (not my - or anyone else's here money) but Atletico have a cheek saying they want a commitment to buy. Feck off

 

[fallengt]

Is he flopping though? The below video makes it look like he's bloody running their game. I think AtM would be very happy to keep him:

He's flopping. His end product is very hit and miss.
That's why they want to cut the loss and sell him with lower price.

 

[pascell]

Felix....low cost??

None of the journalists have any idea what's happening.

 

[Telsim]

Is he flopping though? The below video makes it look like he's bloody running their game. I think AtM would be very happy to keep him:

One game against the colossus in world football Elche, who managed to finish 13th in La Liga, means he is running their game? His overall stats for Atletico Madrid are dreadful. And they are somehow even worse for his national team. He absolutely is flopping.

He is a lot like Pogba in some regards. Has one excellent game every now and then followed by a lot of below average games. The excuses for that are pretty much the same - manager, teammates, system, etc. At least Pogba managed to put out consistently great performances for France to prove he can actually be as good as advertised.

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

I get the feeling he’s going to end up at Arsenal, and we’ll get Weghorst.

 

[WPMUFC]

this one is dead. i can imagine he may have been a serious option without the buyout clause, but it's all Weghorst now.

 

[WPMUFC]

 

[Spoony]

So that's a no to Felix?

 

[dwd]

I get the feeling he’s going to end up at Arsenal, and we’ll get Weghorst.

Depressing if so.

 

[Idxomer]

So that's a no to Felix?

That's what I thought the moment the Weghorst news came out.

 

[phelans shorts]

Either way....If Simeone is staying there it is in the club's interest to move him on and I don't hear of any interest from Barca or Real so putting him on show in England seems like the best way for them to get the biggest fee for him.

That if is carrying a lot of weight.

I certainly wouldn’t be shocked if Simeone left at the end of the season. The club clearly see more future in Felix than him too.

 

[Rozay]

One game against the colossus in world football Elche, who managed to finish 13th in La Liga, means he is running their game? His overall stats for Atletico Madrid are dreadful. And they are somehow even worse for his national team. He absolutely is flopping.

He is a lot like Pogba in some regards. Has one excellent game every now and then followed by a lot of below average games. The excuses for that are pretty much the same - manager, teammates, system, etc. At least Pogba managed to put out consistently great performances for France to prove he can actually be as good as advertised.

And wasn’t 22 years old.

 

[Unam333]

I get the feeling he’s going to end up at Arsenal, and we’ll get Weghorst.

Well, if that happens, hopefully Felix will flop for Arsenal. Past data show that there is a high probability he won't be a success.

 

[TheReligion]

I get the feeling he’s going to end up at Arsenal, and we’ll get Weghorst.

Arsenal want Mudryk so not sure that will happen

 

[Rolaholic]

 

[Red the Bear]

This'll go to the wire with that attitude.

 

[ayushreddevil9]

What does caf think? Would he choose Arsenal over us or vice versa if both clubs agree a deal with Atletico?

 

[Mainoldo]

What does caf think? Would he choose Arsenal over us or vice versa if both clubs agree a deal with Atletico?

Definitely us. His agent knows what move is best for him to increase his profile again and it’s wearing the number 7 at United.

Also benefits Atletico to help get a good price in the summer. I’m sure Mendes will be making them aware of that in negotiations.

 

[Rolaholic]

 

[ayushreddevil9]

Give him 77

 

[Red the Bear]

I'm not sure about giving it to felix so fast.

 

[Irrational.]

So that's a no to Felix?

This is what I’m reading into it. Even the Simon Stone article on the BBC reads similar.

 

[apotheosis]

I'm not sure about giving it to felix so fast.

Agreed. I'd wait till we actually signed him at least.

 

[mu4c_20le]

I'm not sure about giving it to felix so fast.

Its only for a few months

 

[VP89]

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I'm not sure about giving it to felix so fast.

Not sure who else would deserve it to be fair, should he join

 

[croadyman]

This'll go to the wire with that attitude.

Yeah I still think it might as well