Joao Felix / on loan to Chelsea

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If we really have made an offer of 4 million + wages then I can't see this not happening.

Surely we will reach some sort of agreement. Any loan needs to have an option to buy though. He is capable of being a big hit.
 
Is he? Like, where is this coming from? What's he done to warrant such high praise? Flashy highlight reels? Been good at Benfica? So was Darwin Nunez, and I doubt anyone would argue he is tearing the Premier League apart. Back to Joao Felix, he's done nothing in La Liga for 3 years. His stats are woeful. The excuse is he's been playing under the wrong manager and in the wrong system. Excuses very reminiscent of one Donny van de Beek not too long ago, who also needed the right manager and the right system and he would definitely come good. He also has flashy highlight reels and was good at Ajax, mind you. I digress. The point is, Felix has done absolutely nothing and proven absolutely nothing to be given such extreme levels of praise. Or be worth the money being thrown around for him. He is not a 9 and is not a prolific goalscorer either. Which is what we need. We don't need a lesser Bruno Fernandes or Christian Eriksen, to create chances no one can convert. And definitely not at even half the quoted fee.
He doesn't play for United which means muppets will hype him up to heaven until he comes here, doesn't pull trees instantly and this place will be busy crapping on him and insulting the board for wasting money.

It's the usual Caf cycle. Players that don't play for us and are linked to us are always overhyped by muppets, just because of the new toy prospect. This place isn't even done shitting on Antony and Sancho because they haven't instantly lit the world on fire, yet here we are with them wanting a new guy to poke the knife in.
 
He doesn't play for United which means muppets will hype him up to heaven until he comes here, doesn't pull trees instantly and this place will be busy crapping on him and insulting the board for wasting money.

It's the usual Caf cycle. Players that don't play for us and are linked to us are always overhyped by muppets, just because of the new toy prospect. This place isn't even done shitting on Antony and Sancho because they haven't instantly lit the world on fire, yet here we are with them wanting a new guy to poke the knife in.
That's a steaming pile of BS. Go far back in the thread and revisit posts. Go before his Atletico move too. He's a really good talent, it's clear.
 
I think he’d become an absolute superstar here.
I like the idea of him, really tidy player, not really a CF but maybe reminds me of a better Garcia type player from his Liverpool days. Not exactly difficult but Maguire couldn’t handle him when we played them in the CL, I think he’s a handful for a CB because he likes to move around a lot and drag them all over the place.
 
If we really have made an offer of 4 million + wages then I can't see this not happening.

Surely we will reach some sort of agreement. Any loan needs to have an option to buy though. He is capable of being a big hit.
Think this is a loss. Can see him going arsenal. Hope I’m wrong though. Think he’ll thrive under ETH in the prem.
 
Think this is a loss. Can see him going arsenal. Hope I’m wrong though. Think he’ll thrive under ETH in the prem.
He wants out of Atleti. If there’s two offers on the table and one says they’ll buy him if he performs on loan, there’s only United that can afford that in the summer
 
He wants out of Atleti. If there’s two offers on the table and one says they’ll buy him if he performs on loan, there’s only United that can afford that in the summer

Currently based on our cash position, I dont think theres too much difference in financial power between us and arsenal.
 
Between us and Arsenal then.

He'd choose us if it was up to him I reckon. Bruno & Dalot etc.
 
Apparently we’ve moved on to other targets, unless atl Madrid bring the price down. We’re only willing to pay 3.5m. Don’t get why they’d want so much for a loan… they’ll get more interested teams in the summer if he has a good loan with us and then they can ask for whatever they want.
 
Apparently we’ve moved on to other targets, unless atl Madrid bring the price down. We’re only willing to pay 3.5m. Don’t get why they’d want so much for a loan… they’ll get more interested teams in the summer if he has a good loan with us and then they can ask for whatever they want.
Says who, Dharmesh Seth? Because he read the news that was given to him and it was something a bit different
 
Don't know, with Arsenal he might think he has a better chance of picking up a trophy in the 6 months he's on loan.
I'm not sure about that. Arsenal are doing well right now but he can be the difference for us, he also will have game time under threat when Jesus returns.

With us he has fellow compatriots, its a bigger club, it's a club that showed persistent interest since the summer and a very good chance of a cup (for example, we are still in Carabao Cup whereas Arsenal exited). Perhaps even more, without a threat to gametime given we are very short in the striker department.
 
Says who, Dharmesh Seth? Because he read the news that was given to him and it was something a bit different
Doesn’t he work for sky sports? Obviously knows something.
 
Doesn’t he work for sky sports? Obviously knows something.
He does but he gets his information normally very late. He said he was told "it is not on the agenda at all at the terms quoted. No live negotiations but that can of course can change".

Since then we've had a spanish source + Romano saying that Arsenal and United have ramped up interest in the past few hours.

We wont pay the full loan fee that Atletico are asking. Nor would Arsenal. It's about finding a reasonable middle ground.
 
Apparently we’ve moved on to other targets, unless atl Madrid bring the price down. We’re only willing to pay 3.5m. Don’t get why they’d want so much for a loan… they’ll get more interested teams in the summer if he has a good loan with us and then they can ask for whatever they want.

that was a couple fo days ago mate
 
Between us and Arsenal then.

He'd choose us if it was up to him I reckon. Bruno & Dalot etc.
Stuff like this is always trotted out but don't think it will be much of a factor.

The fact Arsenal are top of the league and can guarantee he starts with Jesus injured will be the deciding factor. Fully expect him to go there.
 
Stuff like this is always trotted out but don't think it will be much of a factor.

The fact Arsenal are top of the league and can guarantee he starts with Jesus injured will be the deciding factor. Fully expect him to go there.
Jesus won't be injured forever, though. He would play a lot until February, but afterwards things would become trick at Arsenal
 
I fear Arsenal's interest here and this could be Gakpo all over again where it stings to see him join a rival team
 
Competing for the title or slugging it out for a top 4 finish ? hmm, I know which I would choose if given the option.
 
I fear Arsenal's interest here and this could be Gakpo all over again where it stings to see him join a rival team
Expect nothing then. ETH is clearly struggling to get the owners to commit to providing funds. Think Arsenal is much more likely - this is their big opportunity.
 
being beaten to a player by Arsenal would really sting, for the sake of less than 10 million
 
I wonder if Arsenal can get it done in time for our game against them on 22 January. Bit of a kick in the teeth for EtH if he ends up losing two targets to rival clubs in the space of a couple of weeks. Hopefully the club have a decent 'plan C' up their sleeves.
 
I wonder if Arsenal can get it done in time for our game against them on 22 January. Bit of a kick in the teeth for EtH if he end up losing two targets to rival clubs in the space of a couple of weeks. Hopefully the club have a decent 'plan C' up their sleeves.

Yeah that really would be rubbing salt in,we need to get agents Bruno & Dalot on the case like scousers used VVD in world cup
 
He does but he gets his information normally very late. He said he was told "it is not on the agenda at all at the terms quoted. No live negotiations but that can of course can change".

Since then we've had a spanish source + Romano saying that Arsenal and United have ramped up interest in the past few hours.

We wont pay the full loan fee that Atletico are asking. Nor would Arsenal. It's about finding a reasonable middle ground.
If both teams really want him… he’s most likely to chose arsenal right? Could walk into a winning team and win himself a prem medal. Might come down to who offers him more.
 
Between us and Arsenal then.

He'd choose us if it was up to him I reckon. Bruno & Dalot etc.

Arsenal is fighting for the title. Also, London.

And it’s not as if they don’t have Portuguese players - Nuno Tavares and Fabio Vieira
 
Stuff like this is always trotted out but don't think it will be much of a factor.

The fact Arsenal are top of the league and can guarantee he starts with Jesus injured will be the deciding factor. Fully expect him to go there.
Ye could bag himself a prem title after being there for a few months.
 
Arsenal is fighting for the title. Also, London.

And it’s not as if they don’t have Portuguese players - Nuno Tavares and Fabio Vieira
Not to mention the Brazilian coterie of Gabriels, who all speak Portuguese.
 
Worth noting that whilst we have the Glazers, it will be near impossible to beat a rival to a signature. We move so slowly due to their reluctance to release funds that we can't expect to swiftly close these sort of deals. It's another reason why the "you've spent £xxx" argument doesn't reflect the full picture.

By some accounts we missed out on Enzo Fernandez and Alvarez last winter for the same reason.
 
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