How good is Ralf in these interviews? Showing Lingard to be the cnut he is and showing him up properly. I don’t think Ralf has been a great coach but if he’d been in charge of all recruitment, outgoings, sales and contracts for the last 5-6 years imagine how much better organised things would be.
Jesse Lingard 'to leave on a free'
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Let's just presume for a second that he had a valid 'personal' reason for missing the Chelsea game, and three total days of training, how fecking entitled have you got to be to think you deserve to play, any part, of a game when you simply haven't trained and others have? Then have your whole PR team drag the club and the current manager through the mud.
The sooner we just feck these players off the better. People asking why there's vitriol aimed at Lingard, here's why, he's tone deaf and thinks he get's a free ride on being a 'local lad' and his PR team are absolute morons. You'd think he was fecking Maradona the way his PR team have carried on this week.
Shit, how many 'local lad's' on here could go a year without a goal or an assist as a forward player for United? Would any of us still expect to still be at the club after that? Let alone not get any stick on social media.
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And the thing about Ole “lying” to him: Ole was rubbish and should have got rid of Lingard, but it was on Lingard to get himself in the team. Has he got shit for brains or something?
You grew up with the Nevilles as in you are family friends or I'm probably reading it wrong?
My point was that if he were to be a Fulham product and United come calling he would have moved to United. As is normal. It's still the PL but it's easy enough to say you are a one man club when that club is almost the be all end all of English football.
As far as his punditry or values go... The man has a decade or more defending russian gangsters and dictators as long as money comes in to his little football bubble of a World. He is morally neutral IMO and has proved as much. No man that has genuine values defends such people. I could go on and on about how morally bankrupt the man is but this is not the thread for it nor do I think it matters anyway. Safe to say that based on what I've heard from him as a pundit, he would not have had any issues moving from whatever English club to Man Utd.
No wonder Lingard got along well with Moyes, both mediocre, arrogant and are so fecking entitled. They should have been released from the club way sooner
I'm glad Ragnick will still be around OT.. He looks proper honest and clear when he talks. As for Lingard, he should have been sold way back. No disrespect to West Ham, but that's his level at the very best.
Lingard isn't worth me stressing over, I've done too much already by typing here.
Yes, he very much has. He's a tone deaf moron who thinks being a 'local lad' absolves you from being shit, he also uses the 'local lad' moniker as part of his brand because he and his team know he will always get support from some sections of United fans and they can continue to be self interested wankers.
Since Mason Greenwood is a 'local lad' I think we should pay for his lawyers and a PR team to clear his name. That much do we owe him
So what . It means he doesn't play for United so he's still the failure
I grew up seeing him and talking to him at the local supporters club 1-2 times a year. His father would visit us more frequently and shared pints with us as well. I also happen to know people who are very close friends to him. He was invited to their wedding and vice versa
Tbh Gaz as a pundit has become a different beast. He had to tbh. But there's no doubt that he had more loyalty to our cause in his left toe then all the current batch of academy players
That's very cool.
Agree with the last part. The new type of player is al about how much they can get. Is not just us though. One of Barcelona's most gifted in recent times left them after signing with the late "super agent".
Who? Xavi Simmons?
You don't need to know what was said between their private conversations. Ole was very open about his stance on Lingard in several public interviews. We have video and written evidence. He clearly wanted Lingard to stay
The thing is he already did well in West Ham. So well that Moyes wanted to buy him, but Ole refused the sale.
Honestly though, this can't go far beyond the club's fault. If we really thought he was shit and a cancer, we should have gotten rid of him far earlier. But yet we somehow keep rejecting offers for him and keep telling him we want him to stay. Obviously the club valued him but somehow couldn't get the best out of him. It's hard for me to blame him for acting the cnut these last few months, I have acted like a cnut myself when I was treated poorly at work before I left the place.
I think so yes.
Yea, another Danny Welbeck. Or worse.
The fact the manager has to answer a question on team selection about a player who is leaving in a month anyway is ridiculous.
These players man, can't stand most of them, I hope to god we somehow hoodwink some clubs into taking them off our hands.
The bunch of spineless wankers.
Frustrating situation to say the least, and I'm someone who actually thought fairly highly of Lingard and feel that he should probably have been used more in some of our bleaker patches this season when nothing else was working.
That said, we are talking about a guy who went a year with almost no offensive production and then went on loan in what should have been his prime years. I mean, what other United stars/legends have gone on loan in their prime years?!
He's had some memorable moments for sure, but he'll be mostly a footnote in our history, and his recent behavior will mean he's remembered more for his lousy attitude than this football.
That said, we are talking about a guy who went a year with almost no offensive production and then went on loan in what should have been his prime years. I mean, what other United stars/legends have gone on loan in their prime years?!
He's had some memorable moments for sure, but he'll be mostly a footnote in our history, and his recent behavior will mean he's remembered more for his lousy attitude than this football.
Excellent post, man
Can't wait to see the last of this goblin. Him and rashford are the epitome of everything thats wrong with utd.
...............................................................................................Rashford has proved himself over the last two seasons. Beans has been a bad influence imo and Marcus will be back next season.
Im afraid he's ruined rashford permanently, better to sell now otherwise he's be leaving on a free like lingard and pogba.
This is exactly what the current situation is and sums up the fans frustrations with some current academy players perfectly. ‘Local lad’ has now become part of the PR brand for some players.
We are among the highest paid clubs in the world. Our standards should reflect that. In my opinion a first team player should play well week in week out. Failure to achieve that should lead to the player losing his first team place a year later and end up being sold the year after. That would keep everyone on his toes. Unfortunately I doubt that our structure can handle such high staff turnover
I couldn't say it better myself.
It's possible but I hope not. That's all I have. Hope.
Bizarre that such a nothing, bit-part player is getting this level of attention for not being subbed on to say bye bye.
It only lends to the theories of him being a rat that is extremely cosy with numerous journalists.
It only lends to the theories of him being a rat that is extremely cosy with numerous journalists.
Rashy was horribly managed by Ole which is why I would give him a pass this season. He kept playing him when it was evident that he needed an operation. However he'll better show up next season as excuses are starting running thin
His association with Rashford will most likely mean leaks will continue.
Agreed. For young(ish) player like him, last two seasons were too much pressure i guess.
Solskjaer labelled him in public as new Ronaldo and gave him star player role then he was involved in huge charity work then penalty miss....he has excuse.
Lingard doesn't. His behaviour was always shit and performances also. He is lucky that he spent nearly whole his career in United.
You say that but he had his best seasons under Ole. He was injured and made the decision to go to the NT; that's on Rashy.
That's quite an interesting take. Why are so many journalists pushing Jesse's agenda? No one gave a feck when other squad players left. I can’t help thinking that these journalists are losing their ear in the dressing room
I'm sorry this is hilarious. I got warning points for telling this guy to do one in a match day thread after he was going bonkers about Lingard scoring one of his unicorn goals.
Now he's calling 95% of the forum cnuts because his fave is showing his true face. Pretty funny.
Lingard is irrelevant as a player. He's had 22 years at the club and hasn't shown anything but the absolute briefest slivers of talent during that time. He jogs around a lot. That's it. He doesn't tackle, he doesn't cross, he doesn't assist, he doesn't score. He should have been on £200 a week for the shite he's served up whilst playing for Manchester United. We should have snapped West Ham's bloody arms off when they wanted to buy him. Don't even wait for a figure or a negotiation, just say yes when they said they wanted him. He is typical of how this football club has been run in recent times: rewarding mediocrity, handing out contract extensions so that we don't 'lose value' if we decide to sell, then we don't decide to sell, we rarely play the player after that, and then we let them run their contract down and leave on a free anyway!
And celebrate enthusiastically throwing fingers around like a cnut with some inspiration from Fortnight.
What on earth are you talking about? I don't even rate him more than a squad player... You guys have a habit of talking rubbish.
Almost as bad as that thread quoting and giving out to people daring to question Lingard's greatness because he scored a goal
It would all be good natured if they weren't at the same time proclaiming themselves the bastions of rational and without agenda debate.