Pogba, Ravel, Greenwood, lingard, Rashy.....what the feck is happening at youth academy level?
Jesse Lingard 'to leave on a free'
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Or in any light just for a click. Yeah, I agree, probably that.
It's not going to be neat, is it? This rebuild is going to be dirty, just goes to show the amount of toxicity in the squad and how poorly the club has been run.
Lingard and Rashford are pricks. Constantly getting their PR team to leak stuff to the media. What has become clear this season is they don't care about the club, they only care about themselves. Thank feck at least one of them will be gone soon
Someone do an audit.
Now with Woodward and Judge gone and stuff coming out how they were desperate to retain player/asset "value" by having them sign new contracts, I think it's quite obvious this was Woodward trying to retain asset value with a new contract for Jesse until we sold him off.
Nothing to do with Ole promising him regular football ( Ole may have said that to dangle a carrot) but I mean c'mon we had Cavani, Martial, Greenwood, Rashford and Sancho. He had to know, there was no chance he was getting regular football, none what-so-ever.
And then we signed Ronaldo, which IMO, made it impossible for us to get rid of Jesse because he'd never leave with Ronaldo here
Whats the puropose of the tweet of him as a kid? He's been living of United not contributing as a player at all and yeah its the club's fault for keeping him but he's acting like he's god given just cause he came in as a youth product. Its just so silly.
He wears fake glasses. Kinda says it all. Ferguson would have binned him off to Leeds years ago.
He's been doing this sort of shit for years.
I remember when he was on that run of over a year without a goal or assist and playing like utter dogshit. Then we beat Spurs and City one after the other and Lingard played ok in both games, he wasn't great and he didn't score or assist anything but he was at least competent in both games.
First thing he did was go out and do a big PR tour giving interviews about how he'd had personal issues but he was over them now and he was back to "the old Jesse" and he was ready to go on a great run of form and blah blah blah.
Next game was against Everton I believe and he was absolutely fecking atrocious, and it ended up taking him I think another 4 or 5 months to score or assist.
I remember when he was on that run of over a year without a goal or assist and playing like utter dogshit. Then we beat Spurs and City one after the other and Lingard played ok in both games, he wasn't great and he didn't score or assist anything but he was at least competent in both games.
First thing he did was go out and do a big PR tour giving interviews about how he'd had personal issues but he was over them now and he was back to "the old Jesse" and he was ready to go on a great run of form and blah blah blah.
Next game was against Everton I believe and he was absolutely fecking atrocious, and it ended up taking him I think another 4 or 5 months to score or assist.
This media frenzy in support of the legendary Jesse records setting Lingard is the best evidence we can get that he made strong relationships with the press and is the source of all the "excusive" leaks from the dressing room.
How we have managed the last 18 months of JL just about sums up all that has been wrong with our recruitment and letting a couple of accountants in Woodward and Judge have control over player contracts…..
We lend him out as he can’t get in the team - he goes to West Ham and has a great few months….his stock/value rises considerably even though he has 1 year left on his contract.
JL comes back full of himself after having lots of smoke blown up his arse about how he performed at West Ham.
Nice guy Ole doesn’t want to upset anyone and probably doesn’t want to let him leave so that people question his management of him.
Woody and Judge think that they can extend his contract so that his asset value is protected.
We go and sign Sancho so JL has no chance to play. He starts to sulk and lets it be known he is not happy in the media and questions Ole.
Ole leaves and is replaced by RR who also doesn’t rate him or play him. We get one last chance in Jan to flog him for some cash to Newcastle…..we reject it - and then never play him again.
We leave a bitter player in our squad full of resentment…..then wonder why we have a toxic changing room?
The lesson we need to learn more than most is that when the show doesn’t fit anymore don’t put it back in the cupboard to gather dust - throw it out or sell it on eBay, just don’t hang onto it hoping that maybe one day it just might fit again.
We lend him out as he can’t get in the team - he goes to West Ham and has a great few months….his stock/value rises considerably even though he has 1 year left on his contract.
JL comes back full of himself after having lots of smoke blown up his arse about how he performed at West Ham.
Nice guy Ole doesn’t want to upset anyone and probably doesn’t want to let him leave so that people question his management of him.
Woody and Judge think that they can extend his contract so that his asset value is protected.
We go and sign Sancho so JL has no chance to play. He starts to sulk and lets it be known he is not happy in the media and questions Ole.
Ole leaves and is replaced by RR who also doesn’t rate him or play him. We get one last chance in Jan to flog him for some cash to Newcastle…..we reject it - and then never play him again.
We leave a bitter player in our squad full of resentment…..then wonder why we have a toxic changing room?
The lesson we need to learn more than most is that when the show doesn’t fit anymore don’t put it back in the cupboard to gather dust - throw it out or sell it on eBay, just don’t hang onto it hoping that maybe one day it just might fit again.
Glad he is gone. Thanks for the contribution. He used to be useful player but that is no longer the case.
I do hope similar fate be will be unleashed towards Rashford.
I do hope similar fate be will be unleashed towards Rashford.
I think Jesse may be a little surprised with the reaction to all this. He clearly felt the fans were still on his side and hadn’t worked him out. Deary me.
When Lingard eventually moves on I wonder how he will look back? "A couple of medals here and there as a squad player, one nice WC and a great spell at WHU, a wad of cash but not enough games. Ended badly with no send off".
He must be gutted deep down.
He must be gutted deep down.
It happens everywhere, we just focus on it because it happens at our favorite club.
Young players get a million Instagram followers before their first official game, girls throwing themselves at them, earning shitload of money and are adored by millions. You have to be a well-balanced guy to not let that get to you. They live in a bubble, in a fairy tale world, very far from reality.
The majority of our leaks come from our English players I'm sure of it
Happy he is going. He's being paid far too much here.
U ok? Pm me hun x
He will always be remembered for his peak 2019 form 
https://youtube.com/shorts/lMc_i3NRCMA?feature=share
https://youtube.com/shorts/lMc_i3NRCMA?feature=share
Also agents speaking in their ear about how great and special they are.
To an extent I can understand the youth clique having their noses put out of joint with all the criticism and hate and how badly the club has been run around them during their peak time here but that doesn’t excuse the fact that they have majorly contributed by massively underperforming, leaking info and frankly ripping the club and fans off. These guys are meant to be the embodiment of the clubs values and that says it all really. I really hope our club learn a valuable lesson or two about modern youth promotion from the post Fergie years.
Think of it another way. If the Newcastle offer (wasn't it just a loan?) was less or not much more than what we owed on his wages for the final 6 months, then why should we sell when Martial was out on loan and Greenwood arrested?
Like I've said many times, Jesse could have handed in a transfer request, foregoing his remaining contract with us to ensure a deal could be done. He didn't, he chose to run it down. It's was his gamble. Yes we have had to suffer because of it, but it sends a bad message to other players and agents (think Martial) that we're a club that's happy to pay big wages and then just loan players out till their deal expires and then they can sign elsewhere on a free whilst the club's gets literally nothing.
How we've treated Lingard is completely fine from what I can see. Players should only get one loan move (not including young players) so to generate some interest if they're not playing regular for us. If they fail to move immediately following that move then there shouldn't be any more loans, and they shouldn't be sold at a loss.
Hopefully we get fewer players like this going forward!
Incredibly unfair to lump those players in together. Some have FAR more serious issues than others.
Quite an achievement to get up United fans' noses more efficiently than he did Arsenal fans' noses.
In spite of how things have panned out over the last few years, I wish him the best of luck in progressing his career elsewhere. That said, we should have made a decision to get rid of him a couple of years back and the mistake is entirely ours letting a rotten apple rot further. Lingard in his mind thinks he's comparable to some of the greats that played in the past few decades. Glad Rangnick showed him his place.
Thanks for the FA cup.
The less stroppy adolescents we have in this squad the better.
This guy absolutely needs to leave the club. Making way too much fuss for a player of his quality. If this were peak Ronaldo, Rooney or even DDG I would understand but not Jesse fecking Lingard. He seem to think he is more than a body for the squad. All this noise for someone who should have been booted out of the club 5 years ago.
Can we just stop talking about this, it's really not worth the attention which is exactly what Lingard wants and craves. He's going, we're happy, he's not, close the door on the way out and let's all move on to better things.
His tell-all interview with one of the rags this summer will be highly amusing.
He's trying to establish a shop window value for himself by deflecting the United reject angle. It's schoolyard "I didn't want to go anyway" behaviour. Transparent as feck too.
Yeah can't wait for it ...
"Ole didn't speak to me for 2 years."
"Rangnick didn't speak to me in 6 months."
"Cliques in dressing room."
"Promises not kept."
"Always gave 110% for the club and the fans."
"I could say more but I love the club too much and hope they succeed in the future, I've a lot of friends there still."
Let's call "Beans Beans Bingo" card for the upcoming summer.
Thanks for the memory, Jesse.
Bet Ten Hag is fecking gutted Lingard won’t take his calls…
It’s going to be like when Moyes left and all he did was talk about United for 3 years
Wtf
As if ETH has interest talking to him too. Blimey, so much noise for a nothing player.
Gutted? For the last 5 years all he's cared about was his social media and his jlingz shit clothes collection. The only thing he's gutted about is not being able to put his name against the clubs brand anymore. He's lead a life waaaay above his station and its only thanks to SAF retiring that he wasn't fecked off years ago. He's going to look back on his career and think, how did I get away with that?