I will never understand players that make family members their agents.
Jesse Lingard | Seoul singer
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He hasn't done anything wrong to warrant such abuse from our fans. Did he say anything bad about the club that I've missed?
I'd assume the fans would wish well to a local lad who's struggling to get a club.
I'd assume the fans would wish well to a local lad who's struggling to get a club.
I doubt any of them spent as much time on it at some fans, and I'm pretty sure they don't still think about it, unlike some..... What do you think?
I too find the bitterness towards him strange. I think the idea that if only he spent less time on his JLingz brand he'd be a different player is a bit delusional. For his talent, I'd say he's had a good career. To me his two biggest football mistakes were staying at United when Ole apparently told him that he would play and only taking the one year contract at Forest rather than multiple years at Newcastle or West Ham.
Some seem to be enjoying his struggles though which I think is quite sad. It mainly seems to come from people not liking his online persona and him coming across as childish or immature which again seems to be a strange reason to give him so much abuse.
Get your stuff right on the pitch, it's less of an issue. Players like Ronaldo and Rooney were often praised for the extra hours they put into perfecting their craft for example.
It's a shame for all parties he wasn't sold to West Ham when he was in a good place there. Could have been a different story for him.
I think it has more to do with not being a good look than necessarily any genuine tangible difference...but perhaps does give some insight into habits etc.
Maybe it has put some teams off l, hard to say.
I'd like to see him back in football but perhaps he needs to be realistic about where that is.
The report said he had offers, so if he is desperate to play he would have taken one. He's clearly over valued himself
Was supposedly a leak in the dressing room.
Turning down offers isn’t always about money. It’s about housing, schools, hospitals etc too. It’s not fair just to always assume it’s about money
we know he looks after his mum who has serious mental health problems and also looks after his little sister. He has to take them into account in his decisions
None of that stopped him from going on trial in Saudi in an attempt to get a contract
Yeah, otherwise the club would have invited him to train and use the facilities while he tries to find something.
Evans got that courtesy for being a model professional.
Leaky roof
Leaky player
I get that but I don't know why you used the word instead. A lot of fans do and I don't see why. Players don't train 24/7. They physically can't. They all have some free time and what they do in that free time is irrelevant to me unless it hurts their performances (e.g. drinking, drugs, late nights).
Exactly. They were fantastic so doing those side gigs doesn't prevent you from being fantastic. If it doesn't stop you from playing well, I don't care.
Amongst other things he’s done, or reported to have done, that others will cover I refute that he’s “struggling” to find a club.
His expectations for stature and money are too high; even if he doesn’t want to go abroad for personal reasons (understandably so) there’s plenty of clubs in England that would take him but he thinks he’s better than them and wants too much money.
If he wanted to play football he would be. But he won’t accept isn’t a top 6 player worth £150K+ a week.
Love how people know his mind
I could see him doing well as a recurring character on Always Sunny if he plays his card right. Crickets delusional homeless, dweeb of a pal, perhaps.
Gainz gainz gainz
Think you’re being very kind here. Lingard doesn’t have a club because of the wage he expects. This bloke turned down West Ham (who were in Europe, London and where he had huge success and got on well with players there) to sign for Forest purely cos they offered more money.
As @Based Adnan pointed out he was happy to explore the possibility of Saudi which doesn’t seem like the best option for his mother suffering from mental health or for the young children in his life. I can’t see how such a drastic upheaval and change in lifestyle and culture would be good for them and that is what Saudi would have been:
Lingard could easily get a contract with a Championship club but none of them will give him the ridiculous wage he thinks he deserves.
Im guessing at some point he’ll lower his expectations and end up in the championship or MLS.
You don't know him
Mate, even if you make it to the bench in Luton you are so far beyond average its not even funny. Anyone who even sniffs a Premier League matchday squad is among the elite of the elite of all footballers on the planet.
These players might be average in the Premier League but to say that they are plain average is a bit of fanfiction.
There are 265 million registered football players globally. just north of 550 of those are registered with Premier League clubs.
We've all seen the stories of people who played a five a side with a retired squad player for a lower end premier league club, hell even Championship or League 1, and no one being able to get anywhere near him.
I do. Jesse lingard. Born 15/12/1992 Warrington.
Played for Manchester United, Birmingham, Brighton, Leicester, West Ham and Forest.
His wage when leaving Manchester United was approximately 80-100k
His wage at Nottingham Forest was approximately 80-100k
So as a footballer at your peak age you are going to want wages at that level. Or actually as a normal human being you’re going to want the same wages. Jesse Lingard is a normal human being. No football club is going to offer Jesse Lingard 80-100k a week hence why Jesse Lingard has not had a football club since July,
It’s not rocket science. It’s common sense. I don’t need to slide into Lingard dm’s to figure that out.
Okay
Good.
I played a 5 a side with a ringer who trialled for Southampton. I mean, he wasn't very good, tbh, but he passed to me once with such force it nearly knocked me over. It felt like someone had thrown a brick at my shin.
Ex swans player Kristian O'Leary turned up to train with us once or twice. Far as i remember he was a decent but not stand-out championship player in his day.
He was in his 40's, sporting a top class dad-bod and clearly wasn't trying at all, yet the gulf between him and our best players in their prime, tearing up the amateur leagues for fun - was outrageous.
I've always been a good ball winner, and nothing else. I tried my fecking hardest to get if off him everytime he showed up. Not possible.
The guy didn't even have to move. With awareness and positioning alone he ran the game, it was an eye opener for sure.
He stopped turning up after a couple of weeks. I've no idea why he was there in the first place but he seemed a nice fella.
That's right I came here to check - apparently he's offered himself to Barca? Awfully kind of him.
Bit awkward timing wise, ive done the same myself
Him to Barca will be less ceremonious than Chicarito to Real. At least Chica scores a winning goal that knocked out Atleti but even that was met with disdain by pundits and some fans because he didnt thank Ronaldo during celebration (?). I dont think Barca fans will be pleased at all to se his antics.
Oh nice one. Can you forward me their email? I'll have to get working on my showreel.
Sounds like daft logic to me rather than common sense. He'd prefer to earn nothing rather than accept less than he was previously earning at Manchester United?
The poster knows Lingard though so they know better than the rest of us
I dont get it. I saw a video by Tifo football that talked about it and they made the argument that he has enough money that he doesn't have to play for a club he doesn't want to. The problem is that if you're not wanted by the clubs you want to play for, the only way to change that is by playing well at other clubs.
No top club will sign him because of social media videos so I don't know what he's hoping to accomplish.
"For what is a man, what has he got
If not 100k, then he has naught"
- Jesse Lingard, on his Essien calculator
He should head to Saudi but something tells me he’d hate it there. Surely he can make a lot of cash but the longer he leaves it surely lessons his value. USA? He could dance his little heart out over there.
Yeah he's tailor made for the MLS. Surprised he hasn't signed there personally.
jlingz.com is selling chicken now
I remembered he had an offer from Porto before the contract is over but refused. I guess he wants to keep his level of monthly wage, which wouldn't happen at Portuguese league. I guess Oporto city lacks the glamour he wants.
Could be something to do with not getting an actual offer I presume .
Not really. He’s waited to see if he was going to get a larger contract. He trained at West Ham and in Saudi. He obviously hasn’t then got one. He’s now sacked his agent and will now likely lower his demands and actually find a club. We’re not talking several years of unemployment, he only left forest in the summer. I mean players and managers are known to not just accept anything just to be attached to a club. This isn’t anything groundbreaking. I mean do you think Lingard wasn’t getting offers in the summer or something?
Dude, let it go man.
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