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Is it? I'm not seeing it.
Hope he gets back in the starting 11 on Sunday.
What would that solve?
He wouldn't have created space in that game. He likes to come inside and isn't a classic winger.
There was no space inside, Fenerbahce had two DMs that had a very good day. The space was out wide where Darmian had a dismal game.
The whole team was awful going forward and I don't think Lingard would have made any difference.
That being said, I struggle to make a case for any winger at this club at the moment so he will probably get into the lineup against Swansea.
There was no space inside, Fenerbahce had two DMs that had a very good day. The space was out wide where Darmian had a dismal game.
The whole team was awful going forward and I don't think Lingard would have made any difference.
That being said, I struggle to make a case for any winger at this club at the moment so he will probably get into the lineup against Swansea.
A different option and fresh legs. I'd play a front three of Martial-Ibra-Lingard. Rashford looks like he could do with a rest and its pretty obvious Mkhitaryan is not starting a PL game anytime soon
Pretty much sums it up for me. While I don't think he's good enough to be starting, there's not much of a case for our other options out wide, either. We badly needed a player of the Mane ilk over the summer and instead went for Mkhitaryan (looking more bizarre by the week, that signing).
His industry and pass and move style can be infectious sometimes. He's been involved in much of our most beautiful football recently and even if it's not him making pulling off the magical skill or whatever, his energy just seems to rub off on the players around him. Not always of course, but it's a beautiful thing when it does happen.
Try him at RB
Played really well for England tonight.
Every team in England can use someone like him
Been fantastic.
Checked Twitter and mostly people slating him despite the fact he's been excellent and probably a contender for MotM so far... really impressed with his link-up play today.
Standard United player in an England shirt response. Rashford will probably get his fair share soon enough, no matter how well he plays.
Thought he was excellent personally. Some excellent link up play, very slick.
Was a very good game from him, his one touch passing and awareness of other players and space was great. Think you can see our Academys influence on him very strongly.
Didn't see the game but he's been getting praise and a 7/8 out of 10 on every site that I've looked at. Good stuff.
good to see he's done well, wanna check some individual highlights when it's out on YT
I thought he was excellent. When he is on song, he is such a good modern day footballer, very comfortable in a tiki taka style possession game and can counter at pace too. I see him as a link up player rather than a threat in his own right.. just isn't consistent enough to score goals but as a team player, he is very good when he wants to be.
I think someone like Pep would love him as a squad player and would turn him into a more effective footballer.
But when he is off.. he can be terrible. Needs to improve his bottom level. A guy like him needs to be Mr Consistency as his top level isn't great.
highlights from the game, the guy has good awareness, movement and decent technique to play as a no10.. the link up play and hardwork will come in handy in tough away games, he could be good at manmarking too if asked, he might not be the most creative and a starter but for a defensive set up, he could be great, much better then someone like Fellaini, towhom it takes ages to turn and control the ball
Saw plenty of Utd fans getting in on the action, especially that fan channel 'theunitedstand'. Buncha cnuts.
Lingards growing on me, he needs to improve his end product but his linkup play is pretty good. Great work rate/ Passionate about the club, English & a Utd youth player!
No need to sell him, United need a settled squad, can't keep buying 5 players a season.
Some fans seem to think that to play well / compete for the league, Utd need to have a squad consisting entirely of world class players.
Has any team ever had a squad consisting entirely of world class players?
If someone thinks Lingard isn't good enough it doesn't automatically mean they want a team of world class players. There's a pretty big area in between Lingard and world class.
This is what I said LVG would have done if he had 1 more pre-season.
He would have had Rashford to the right - martial to the left but not as wingers but wide forwards & have lingard interlinking in between them. He can't cut through teams but he could easily provide quick passes that make the partnership between martial and Rashford work very well.
He would have had Rashford to the right - martial to the left but not as wingers but wide forwards & have lingard interlinking in between them. He can't cut through teams but he could easily provide quick passes that make the partnership between martial and Rashford work very well.
The touch at 2:29. Top class 
There is also a big gap between the first team and the squad.
He is certainly good enough to be a squad player and based on Utd's 'performances' this season, a first team spot.
Fair play to Southgate and England who played him good or at least in a manner that gets the best from him. He can be great.
In my opinion he lacks ten percent from being fantastic. A bit of precision and timing - a bit more edge! The same precision and timing Mata always gives us. I suspect it might be down to few games in the period from 20 to 23. Would probably have benefited a lot from leaving at that stage given right club etc. Like Keane.
But he can get there, and if he does we will have a fantastic player on our hands cause he have some other qualities that a player like Mata lacks. A proper, modern ten!
In my opinion he lacks ten percent from being fantastic. A bit of precision and timing - a bit more edge! The same precision and timing Mata always gives us. I suspect it might be down to few games in the period from 20 to 23. Would probably have benefited a lot from leaving at that stage given right club etc. Like Keane.
But he can get there, and if he does we will have a fantastic player on our hands cause he have some other qualities that a player like Mata lacks. A proper, modern ten!
Dribbling doesn't seem to be part of his game. He's recorded 0.5 successful attempts per game this season. I believe this is a problem when we're talking about one of our main wingers.
He pops up with contributions in big games and has good link-up play, which does justify his position in our squad. However too often he has tendencies to drift thru matches. I'd describe Jesse's style of play in similar way to his media personality, it's immature.
He pops up with contributions in big games and has good link-up play, which does justify his position in our squad. However too often he has tendencies to drift thru matches. I'd describe Jesse's style of play in similar way to his media personality, it's immature.
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But he is not actually a winger. He just plays there alot.
So either he'll adapt to the wide role or there'll be no future for him at the club, because I can't imagine him winning No.10 position in competition with Mata, Pogba, Ibra, Mkhitaryan and Rooney. Anyway it's a challenging position and attacking midfielders should be able to successfully take on opponents. Was he good at it in reserves?
He has a stupid social media persona, but that's seems to be it. Kinda harsh to say he's immature considering how little we know of his personal life. I'd say that him establishing his place in the squad ahead of Depay speaks a lot about his personality, especially since he was almost nailed on to be sold at the start of last year.
I'm aware of the possible dualism there, that's why I've distinguished it as media personality. I don't remember reading anything from him besides generic PR lines in interviews, but other than that all we get is his Instagram stuff where he's having fun and expressing himself.
I think we need to accept Lingard's as a type of player he is. His strength is off the ball movement, linking up play and popping up in dangerous position, plus his driving run from midfield which he needs to show more but he has it (which is one of the season why I don't like him on the wing). He has never been a great dribbler, it's just not his game, plus sometimes his touch etc can be quite clumsy. I would say he should focus on showing his strength more consistently in matches and there would not be much complain. Hilarious when we see most of the complain about him wearing England's number 10 shirt came from City and Liverpool's fans. They should focus on actually bringing their lads through first before complaining about lack of quality.
Quality ball carrying/dribbling is a concern for us but at the moment he is more than good enough to warrant a place in the squad (and the near future). Unless he improves drastically in all areas and/or others don't step up/are given the chance then he'll always been a 1.5 or 2nd choice and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
I think Lingard has reached his technical ability 'peak' and the major things he can improve on is goal scoring and consistency. He's our (less gifted) Pedro; he will maintain or improve a team full of star players and attacking ability but if we rely on him for game changing decisions then it won't be pretty.
In that video there are 2 things I love about his game.
1) The first 2 passes he plays back to the keeper. They were underhit but he had the courage and intelligence to go short all the way deep in defence back for an outlet ball for the centre backs. Sure, the keeper probably hoofed it back up the pitch against Spain's high press but the point is, he gave another opportunity, another angle/option to try and play it out from the back/build play.
2) At 3:10, I think Busquets bundles into him from behind and Lingard reacts like he should to that cnut.
He is this generation's Phil Neville, maybe. Not great, but he will try forever.
A very useful player to have.
A very useful player to have.
How many dribles per game did prime Lampard, Gerrard og Xavi have? How about Scholes when he was an AM?
When he was younger he had a smooth running style and a change of pace which allowed him to carry the ball past players and open up space quickly. Similar to Spurs' Dembele. We could do with seeing this in his game at the moment.
There are more players in our squad who are not good enough and got paid way too much. Player with his quality being paid for 25k per week, while other players who offers the same quality or may be worse such as Memphis, Schneiderlin, Rojo, etc are being paid like crazy. We have spent too much money on players who are worse than Lingard, I think it's about time we stop spending those money on average players and start to have faith in Lingard.
No idea as I don't have access to historical data. Scholes and Xavi weren't renowned for their dribbling ability, their game was more about supreme technical ability coupled with intelligence, Lampard's was associated mostly with the latter factor. I'm not saying CAMs first option should be to take on players, but it's a skill that they should have in their repertoire.
Stats - Successful Take Ons per game:
Xavi - 2012/13 (32 years old) - 0.73
Giggs - 2012/13 - 0.5
This season:
Özil - 1.3 _________2015/16 - 1.31
Delle Alli - 1.4 _____2015/16 - 0.91 ( with % of success at 32.61)
De Bruyne - 1.2 ___2015/16 - 1.44
Adam Lallana - 1.64
Pogba - 2.7 _______2015/16 - 2.91
Edit: My words about adapting or goodbye may have sounded too harsh, but if Jesse doesn't add this part to his game he's surely going to lose his fight for a starting spot at the club.
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Frank Lampard at his peak, 09/10, offered 0,4 take ons each match according to whoscored. Xavi had 0,8 the same season.
Its not the fact that Ozil makes one more take on per match over 90 minutes that makes him a better player in my opinion. Its the sharpness in his last touch on the ball. I do not miss take ons from Jessie Lingard. I miss a bit better movement in and into the box and a bit more precision in his last touch on the ball (both passing and finishing). If he can add this to his game, he will have nothing to worry about.
Frank was 31 in that season and his statistical score is a notch below Jesse's from this year, who's 23 years old.
I agree, though thankfully for Özil he isn't asked to play on the wings where the demands for wide players are a bit different and winning duels is highly regarded.
http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...ccessful_take_ons/successful_take_ons_%#total
Lingard could do without improving the discussed subject if United as a team were set up differently. That is if we didn't have 1 or even 2 old strikers roaming around the pitch in Rooney and Ibra, as well as having problems with finding a proper candidate for the left flank.
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A young academy player that has had to fight his way into the team. By all account we should all be in love with this boy.
But its 2016, and we are Muppets, we want the new shinny toy. In the last three years we have brought in Di Maria, Depay, Martial, Mkhitarian for the wings to add to young and Valencia.However, managers still find themselves picking Lingard because he is effective, Hardworking and actually a very good player.
This reminds me of Sadio Mane. When LVG wanted to buy him, half of the caf lost their collective shits saying he is a mediocre player who isn’t near united level. Now that he is doing his thing at Liverpool, I am sure most of you would take him in a heartbeat.
The same is true for Jesse, put him in Klopps line –up or in a city or Chelsea line-up and most of us would be creaming your pants for him. After all people wanted to kill LVG for missing out on fecking Pedro!
This boy is a good player and he deserves to be where he is, he has earned that right.
But its 2016, and we are Muppets, we want the new shinny toy. In the last three years we have brought in Di Maria, Depay, Martial, Mkhitarian for the wings to add to young and Valencia.However, managers still find themselves picking Lingard because he is effective, Hardworking and actually a very good player.
This reminds me of Sadio Mane. When LVG wanted to buy him, half of the caf lost their collective shits saying he is a mediocre player who isn’t near united level. Now that he is doing his thing at Liverpool, I am sure most of you would take him in a heartbeat.
The same is true for Jesse, put him in Klopps line –up or in a city or Chelsea line-up and most of us would be creaming your pants for him. After all people wanted to kill LVG for missing out on fecking Pedro!
This boy is a good player and he deserves to be where he is, he has earned that right.
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