Jerome Boateng
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I'd rather us not buy anyone, than buy Boateng for anything over £30m
Bad every game I've seen him. Last time I've seen him at his usual level was 14/15.
City got rid of him too early, we're in too late. This can't be a very long longlist of potential CBs if Boateng is fourth on it.
I'm hardly a negative or critical person, but I'm with you, even that transfer I can't get behind; just seems absolutely bonkers.
Glad somebody said it. Spending for the sake of spending.
Top centerback in his day, but that day has come and gone.
Not even as a last resort should we sign Boateng, certainly not for the reported figure of £50 million. That's just crazy.
Is it me or does Boateng look terribly slow? He's a unit and won't get bullied in any physical battle but he's got the turning circle of an aircraft carrier. I wouldn't like to see him get exposed by a Mane or Salah.
Boateng has been in decline for a couple of years now, it would really be a strange signing.
Alderweireld is a better defender and proved his form and fitness at the world cup which Boateng couldn't. Signing Alderweireld is the only logical option.
Alderweireld is a better defender and proved his form and fitness at the world cup which Boateng couldn't. Signing Alderweireld is the only logical option.
To be honest the amount of money we're being asked for bang average or over-the-hill CBs (talking about Boateng) I'd rather stick with what we have. Allow Bailly and Lindelof time to mature with Smalling and Jones being used till the former find their feet. And spend the money to strengthen the positions we direly need to strengthen like LB and RW.
I don't understand this madness.
You can have Chamber's or Holding on loan lads!
Cracking player at his best, but I feel his best is a bit behind him, either way he's a unit, will make set peices interesting, i'd take him at Arsenal though.
Cracking player at his best, but I feel his best is a bit behind him, either way he's a unit, will make set peices interesting, i'd take him at Arsenal though.
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Tobby deserves the money. He's one of the best CBs in the league.
Also, in a world which has VVD sold for 75m, Stones and Laporte for 50m each, you'll have to spend on any good CB. No more you'll get a good CB for 30-35m.
I'm genuinely baffled at the moment. I can't understand the desperation to buy a defender no matter what. If we can't get Alderweireld or Maguire then switch focus to a RW or a LB ffs.
Not only is he too slow and injury prone, but he's got a very elevated sense of self-importance thinking he's Beckenbauer and pushing into midfield with the ball... then getting exposed in every foot race when he has to run back to cover.
The things being written about Boateng here are nothing short of ridiculous. I'd be glad to keep him.
We would be glad too.
It's weird how injury-proneness doesn't seem to be a factor when clubs look at players. Like how LvG was dead-set on getting Thomas Vermaelen, who hasn't played more than 20 games in a season in the last 5 years.
Similarly, Boateng hasn't played more than 20 league games in the last 3 seasons. Why throw £50m at that? It's just adding to a problem we already have. When fit, Bailly, Jones and even Rojo are good players, but the issue is, they're injured half the time. It makes little sense to bring in someone else who is equally prone to injury and is also 29 so it seems unlikely the injuries are going to just magically stop recurring at this point.
Alderweireld or even Maguire make much more sense.
Similarly, Boateng hasn't played more than 20 league games in the last 3 seasons. Why throw £50m at that? It's just adding to a problem we already have. When fit, Bailly, Jones and even Rojo are good players, but the issue is, they're injured half the time. It makes little sense to bring in someone else who is equally prone to injury and is also 29 so it seems unlikely the injuries are going to just magically stop recurring at this point.
Alderweireld or even Maguire make much more sense.
He's an injury prone CB who is slow as feck and lacking in mobility, his best days are behind him, I hope this is just a tactic to get Spurs to accept a lower price for Alderweireld.
And how much money is that?
VVD was 26 when he got signed by Liverpool and had a 5 year contract. Stones 22. Laporte 24.
If you're telling me that Toby at 29 and with a clause for £25m next summer is worth 70m now, then you're basically saying he's worth twice as much per year as the rest. Which he isn't. And he wouldn't make that much difference to our team as CB is not a major problem area to begin with.
Luckhurst taking the worst out of every situation in an attempt to wind people up, this board especially should be wise to his bollocks by now.
Ah feck it
Paying money for a proven CB is definitely worthy than paying 50-60m in a CB you don't if you he'll actually end up being good or not. The point of signing very young players is that you can spend less and still get value from them in the future, and if they flop you can sell them without losing much, not paying 50-60m on an unproven CB.
Tobby is the best defender in the league and if an average defender who didn't play for anything bigger than Southampton like VVD got sold for 75m, then Tobby deserve 70m as well.
Waiting for next summer till his release clause is active and risking another club buying him at this time while wasting a season with your injury prone and undependable CBs isn't a good business. The only thing that matters in this current time is the next season, not the one after it.
And no, our defense has been crap for years, it was only De Gea who makes them look good. We have the best GK in the league, not the best defense.
As a backup option no doubt? He would be alright in a team that has the ball 70/80% of the time like Bayern will do in the German league (probably most Europeans games too)
Yeah, I basically don't agree on any of the points you made so I'll stop here.
Ok.
Would you be glad to start him in all your games?
This
Boateng is still a good center back, l think his performance in the World Cup has jarred his reputation.
As a first team starter whenever he is fit. Both Hummels and Boateng are now preferably to be paired with Niklas Süle, who is faster than both, but they are still the best CBs in the league.
Going off that logic Jones proved his fitness during the World Cup also. So no need for a new shiny central defender...
So why have Bayern been offering him to every team in Europe all summer? Genuine question
And I genuinely don't know, or understand the board on that one. Probably more to do with off the pitch stuff (salary?) than football.
Smokescreen alert
not a fan of Luckhurst, but I think he's spot on here.
Toby or bust!
He also has the fitness levels of Phil Jones
It's the last opportunity to get a big fee for him, you already have his successor and are eyeing an other promising CB in Pavard. It's just good long term planning.
Boateng is not English, so forget about him! Only an Englishman like Maguire will do. 
Boating should be the last choice, in my opinion. There is a reason why Munich want to sell him. I would rather United spend big money on Maguire.
Boating should be the last choice, in my opinion. There is a reason why Munich want to sell him. I would rather United spend big money on Maguire.
Interesting perspective. Has he played at a level comparable to Hummels recently?
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