Goes without saying, Berbatov and Rooney are our only strikers who play in the hole and players like Owen/Hernandez like playing off that
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Goes without saying, Berbatov and Rooney are our only strikers who play in the hole and players like Owen/Hernandez like playing off that
It's inconsistent folks. One game, he'll be spot on. The next game, like today, it just ain't going for him. Nonetheless, he'll still score goals and play a part in our title run so I wouldn't be too worried by what we saw today. Eventually, he'll iron it out to where he's more consistent but until then, this is what we'll have to expect. Frustrating when it happens, but it happens. Glad Fergie took him off. He just wasn't at it today.
I wouldn't be too worried Ash. He's still refining his game. It's not like he's not working on it. It's just not consistent right now. You can't expect to it work out like the flip of a switch. This is why I've said numerous times that by next season or even the end of next season, you'll see a much more well-rounded Chicharito. One step at a time folks.
I wouldn't be too worried Ash. He's still refining his game. It's not like he's not working on it. It's just not consistent right now. You can't expect to it work out like the flip of a switch. This is why I've said numerous times that by next season or even the end of next season, you'll see a much more well-rounded Chicharito. One step at a time folks.
His off the ball play is fantastic. His on the ball play is average. Needs to learn how to get the ball under control faster and hold it up.
This lad is the perfect substitute and that is how it will work out in the end. Welbeck is just going to keep getting better and I'm not sure Hernandez has the ability to really improve his game out of the box. As he is now though, he is still a valuable tool. I just fear that he'll have some baron spells and his problems will really come under scrutiny then.
Link up play has been poor for most part of the season. Sloppy passes and a poor first touch again today - he really needs to get out of his poor form
I'd hate defending against that guy. His movement is something else. Defenders must keep thanking God that his on the ball skills are not as good yet.
Welbeck will keep improving, but I see no reason to suggest that Hernandez won't keep on improving as well to be honest.
indeed. He'll be twice the threat when that happens
So do people ignore the games that Hernandez actually has a good overall game? I'd say freak has the best handle on it in saying is on the ball game is average. My only thing is that I'd also add that it's inconsistent on top of being average.
I do think it will get better in time because he's definitely shown signs of improvement. That doesn't mean he won't have a poor game every now and then.
It just frustrates me that some are being lazy in this aspect. There's been games where his hold-up play has been good and games where it hasn't. If you're going to say that it's been poor most of the season then at least back it up via a list of games
I do think it will get better in time because he's definitely shown signs of improvement. That doesn't mean he won't have a poor game every now and then.
It just frustrates me that some are being lazy in this aspect. There's been games where his hold-up play has been good and games where it hasn't. If you're going to say that it's been poor most of the season then at least back it up via a list of games
terrific player. he and welbeck couldn't have been more unlucky today. no worries...the old guys bailed them out. 
Did this ever get an appearance in the mains?
dont think so, the mains missed out on a lot with that topic
No don't think so. We messed up this year by gettin knocked out of the FA and Carling cup so quickly. In most seasons, we should get to the 1/4 finals of both those competitions at least.
Also all with have at least niggling injuries every season (like Rooney throat problem this past few games), or (hopefully not), more long term injury problems like pulled muscles etc.
Given the amount of games that we therefore have to play with the PL and CL, there is more than enough games for Rooney, Welbeck and Hernandez (who seem to be the emerging trio for the next 5 years) to start at least 35 games each a season and with loads of sub appearance too.
& it will. For Mexico he is consistently involved in link up play to great effect.
It was most shown when he was playing in the Gold Cup. Fantastic
That is when the Hugo Sanchez comparison really hit home for me.
Good to know that you watched it. I felt like I was one of the few that actually took some interest in it as well as Chicha's involvement with the tournament. That was when I came to the conclusion that he's more comfortable playing with Mexico than he is for us.
I'd still rather start him than Welbeck, even when we he's having a bad game and can't create chances for himself eventually there will be one or two perfect opportunities fed to him that he'll put away.
Welbeck's a much more entertaining player to watch but I'd rather put up with a frustrating Hernandez if it means he pops up with a goal at some point.
Welbeck's a much more entertaining player to watch but I'd rather put up with a frustrating Hernandez if it means he pops up with a goal at some point.
I think the two of them are completely different types of players, which means that Welbeck is better for some games, while Hernandez is better for other games. Generally though, I'd agree with you. I still prefer Hernandez on most occasions.
I think the main point is that both of them together is a poor partnership, and that whenever Rooney is unavailable it should be Berba playing alongside one of them.
I'm going to the Mexico-Colombia match on Wednesday (being played here in Miami), so hopefully he gets a start and/or significant minutes. Assuming he plays, it will be the first time I've seen a current United player in person since my Old Trafford pilgrimage in 1997.
As far as him doing more link up play for Mexico, I think he feels more responsibility with Mexico, and that may lead to him doing more link up play, etc., as opposed to focusing strictly on running the center backs around. He knows he's one of the 2-3 best and most experienced (in terms of level of competition that he faces week in and week out) players in the Mexico squad.
As far as him doing more link up play for Mexico, I think he feels more responsibility with Mexico, and that may lead to him doing more link up play, etc., as opposed to focusing strictly on running the center backs around. He knows he's one of the 2-3 best and most experienced (in terms of level of competition that he faces week in and week out) players in the Mexico squad.
He took his goal against Ajax brilliantly and seemed to have a couple of nice bits of link up play with Welbeck on Sunday, however this thread paints a less positive picture from those who saw the whole game.
We have to remember that his style of play isn't just down to him, he has his tactical instructions from the boss.
Managed to find an interview where he say's Fergie gives him strict instructions to play a high line and on the last man.
Obviously that doesn't mean he can't improve certain aspects of his play but it explains why he hasn't shown the same type of play for us that he does for Mexico. He's at a disadvantage height/strength wise in the PL so I think we focus on the aspects of his game where he can get the better of players.
I dont believe him. A thunderous shot from 30 yards has got to be more satisfying than a scrappy tap in. Tho I can see that scoring any goal must feel amazing.
I've seen him playing for Mexico 3 or 4 times before the last world cup and during the world cup. I still was a bit worried about some of his general play at the time, even though he scored a few goals.
He clearly means that the value is the same to the team. A goal is a goal no matter where he scores from, its immaterial
In the moment it might be great but all being said and done he's right. A goal is a goal. Not to mention some of the goals he scores are just as good as long range efforts but for different reasons. The goal he scored against Ajax for example was sublime.
I'm sure I've heard a few professional players say something similar over the years. I guess it's different for professionals though, where as when us mortals score a 30 yarder we run around like lunatics!
Its one of those bullshit cliches they roll out because they have to be so careful with what they say to the press, it is easier to roll out these meaningless lines than to say what they are really thinking. A goal is a goal. Yes, he is right, but it is also fecking obvious and not worth saying. I dont blame him for it. He might prefer to score a screamer from 30 yards but he has his instructions and he isnt going to, no point in pissing SAF off by complaining about it.
I'm sure Ferguson has never told him not to score from 30 yards before
No. But he cited it as an explanation, not me.
More to do with instructions of where to play. I'm sure he would take the chance assuming he was in a good position to do so.
TBH, this season hasn't been as smooth for him as last season due to injuries and also the emergence of Welbeck in our first team.
Still though, when we signed this guy, did anybody expect him to have got 30 goals in a season & half with us? The fact he was unknown and was bought relatively cheap, most probably thought he'd be another Manucho or Dong.
He's done brilliant, and he'll continue to get his goals. He'll score a few more important ones before the season finishes.
Still though, when we signed this guy, did anybody expect him to have got 30 goals in a season & half with us? The fact he was unknown and was bought relatively cheap, most probably thought he'd be another Manucho or Dong.
He's done brilliant, and he'll continue to get his goals. He'll score a few more important ones before the season finishes.
I had the pleasure of seeing Chicharito in person for Mexico against Colombia last night here in Miami. 50/50 Mexican and Colombian fans created a great atmosphere. Chicharito by far had the biggest ovation during the introductions. And about 80% of the Mexican shirts that fans were wearing, if they had a name/number on it, were #14 Chicharito. Several United shirts, as well.
Anyway, I thought I'd share a few pictures that I took.
Anyway, I thought I'd share a few pictures that I took.
Also interesting to note that Will Ferrell is a Chicharito fan. He was at the game last night promoting a new movie of his that takes place in Mexico (Casa de mi Madre or something like that). So he was interviewed in Spanish, and I videoed it from the big screen:
Fixed the vid.
Thanks, I was trying to figure out what happened. I'm surprised I even got it uploaded to Youtube correctly, as that was my first time trying to upload one of my own vids.
Thanks for sharing MS, good stuff.
he becomes magic in the six yard box doesnt he? that shimmy inside was top stuff!
Unfortunately i've got to criticise his touch again. It's infuriating how often it let's him down and ends moves for us. In goalscoring situations it's usually sharp but his general play still needs work.
I refuse to criticise his touch when everybody knows that it's a huge weakness for him. What I would criticise is why he was chosen to play against a team like Bilbao whereby he will be shown up massively. Personally I think Welbeck and even Berbatov are much more suited to a game against a team like Bilbao.
Yeh his touch was awful, there were a few times the ball just bounced off him and Martinez just strolled off with it.
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