Javier Hernandez | 2011/12 Performances

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Tell you what, he would have found a way to score tonight, 'poor first touch' n' all...
 
Chicharito would have only made our buildup play more disjointed than it was. Welbeck needed to start. Fergie was wrong again.
 
Yep, was thinking the same thing. Hernandez always finds a way to score.

Mr Ambition needs a fecking rocket up his arse. Drop him.
 
Tell you what, he would have found a way to score tonight, 'poor first touch' n' all...

Agree with you Steve. We created a lot of good crossing opportunities, especially in the first half, but we were crying out for his movement in the box to capitalize on it.
 
Chicharito would have only made our buildup play more disjointed than it was. Welbeck needed to start. Fergie was wrong again.

In what way? If anything, he'd help Rooney ping back their back four and give Rooney some offensive alternatives.
 
Chicharito would have only made our buildup play more disjointed than it was. Welbeck needed to start. Fergie was wrong again.

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What?

He'd have been on the end of a few of those crosses that's for sure.

This. His anticipation and movement in the box, would have been such an asset tonight.

How many CL games has he started this season btw? Can't think of too many.
 
Agree with you Steve. We created a lot of good crossing opportunities, especially in the first half, but we were crying out for his movement in the box to capitalize on it.

Even in the second half there were plenty of times when the ball went into the box or right across it to the other winger without a United player making a run at the near post. That's Hernandez's stomping ground, where he does his work. Chicharito would've scored tonight. Guaranteed.
 
john is just wumming again. the fact that he said welbeck should have started says it all. Overall, this season, Chicha's build up play has been poor but it has been improving recently. I agree with the sentiment that he hasn't quite got going yet this season. It definitely seems like one of those situations.
 
Was anyone else think 'If Hernandez was playing', when Jones drilled that lovely ball into the box late in the game?

That just needed one of Chicharito's near post runs to make an easy tap in. How is our Mexican the only player in our team to have learnt this can be the easiest way of scoring a goal! Don't just stand there in the box waiting for a perfect ball in, make the run to the near post to have the best chance of getting to the ball first!
 
I thought he did his best today to get into the game considering there was zero supply coming in to him. He's a striker that plays off the shoulder, he needs balls fed from midfield and got none.
 
If ever there's a striker that relies on service it's Hernandez (and others of his ilk).

That said, when we need a goal it always seems a bit backward to take him off.
 
Gone of the boil recently hasn't he?

Or is it a lack of service. Or both?

He's best when the team is fired up and has ball in motion. There was no such thing in the first half. Blackburn parked the bus right off the bat as well which didn't give him much space to attack.
 
Would've probably scored today mind. Looked no worse than Welbeck.
 
Gone of the boil recently hasn't he?

Or is it a lack of service. Or both?

Second Season Syndrome or something like that. To be fair, he also doesn't get proper service from midfield, (I mean, what midfield?)

Same with Torres.
 
For some reason, he barely scores at OT anymore. He has scored one goal this season - vs Newcastle - and it was a bit strange, the ball hit him after Krul saved a shot from Rooney.

He is the same player, the expectations are quite different though. Still, he scores in away games regularly and will be of great importance in the second half of the season.
 
in the 45 minutes he played in the first half, he was not in the game at all.
 
We've got a real problem with this lad.

As far as predators go, he's superb.

But we need more. He doesn't give enough in the build up. He's effectively a waste of a player for 95% of the game.

He needs a partner or he gets isolated, but that leaves us light in the midfield.

He's definitely experiencing second season syndrome. On form, he's relegated to fourth choice striker.
 
Really? I'd have him over Welbeck any day.
 
How often has he played with Rooney this season?

I think he suffers from the lack of service from midfield, when the midfield is as poor as it was today then he struggles to get involved in the game. Personally, I'd have kept him on and taken Welbeck off.
 
Welbeck's touch and link-up is fantastic... Hernandez has a far greater rate of poor first touches and not getting his bearings quickly enough when facing away from goal.

Hernandez was not what was needed in a game where we were going to have such little space in the final third.

I'm confident he'll improve leaps and bounds in these areas, but right now, this season, with defenders now knowing what a danger Chicharito is, Welbeck seems a better bet.
 
We've got a real problem with this lad.

As far as predators go, he's superb.

But we need more. He doesn't give enough in the build up. He's effectively a waste of a player for 95% of the game.

He needs a partner or he gets isolated, but that leaves us light in the midfield.

He's definitely experiencing second season syndrome. On form, he's relegated to fourth choice striker.

He's lacking sharpness. That's the best way I can put it. He has an inconsistent touch that does him no favors and he's slowly adding more to his game. As fans, we aren't patient. He'll start to come good in the second half of the season but for right now, he's going to struggle.
 
Welbeck's touch and link-up is fantastic... Hernandez has a far greater rate of poor first touches and not getting his bearings quickly enough when facing away from goal.

Hernandez was not what was needed in a game where we were going to have such little space in the final third.

I'm confident he'll improve leaps and bounds in these areas, but right now, this season, with defenders now knowing what a danger Chicharito is, Welbeck seems a better bet.

Myth. He was non existant today. I barely remember him touching the ball or having a significant pass.
 
We've got a real problem with this lad.

As far as predators go, he's superb.

But we need more. He doesn't give enough in the build up. He's effectively a waste of a player for 95% of the game.

He needs a partner or he gets isolated, but that leaves us light in the midfield.

He's definitely experiencing second season syndrome. On form, he's relegated to fourth choice striker.

His season has been majorly disrupted by injury this season.
 
Welbeck's touch and link-up is fantastic... Hernandez has a far greater rate of poor first touches and not getting his bearings quickly enough when facing away from goal.

Hernandez was not what was needed in a game where we were going to have such little space in the final third.

I'm confident he'll improve leaps and bounds in these areas, but right now, this season, with defenders now knowing what a danger Chicharito is, Welbeck seems a better bet.

Indeed. I remember when Welbeck was heavily criticized for a poor touch. I think Hernandez is at that stage now. Thankfully for Welbeck, he had a loan to help move him along in his development. Chicha will just have to get on with it. He needs to regain sharpness though. I saw some positive signs from him today. That turn and shot was nice to see. However, it wasn't enough. Still has some ways to go.
 
I think we should have kept him on the bench today. Think he'd have been a brilliant asset to bring on in the second half. Taking him off after 45 was a real waste. Despite Welbeck's superior link-up play, I always fancy Hernandez to nick one in games like this.
 
His season has been majorly disrupted by injury this season.

That's fair. He's had a number of niggly injuries.

Undoubtedly needs to improve his build up play. Not sure how much room for improvement he has in that regard.
 
For me, he seems to be suffering a bit because he isn't regularly playing up top with Rooney in behind him. If we remember back to last season, that's when he worked best. Rooney did a brilliant job of providing him towards the end of last season, however I can't envisage a front two with them at the moment because Berbatov is in superb form and surely can't be dropped.
 
Myth. He was non existant today. I barely remember him touching the ball or having a significant pass.

Yes, he didn't do as well as we'd like today, ergo it's a myth.

And he still didn't look as bad as Hernandez.
 
Yes, he didn't do as well as we'd like today, ergo it's a myth.

And he still didn't look as bad as Hernandez.

Only thing I'll say about this is Hernandez managed to get two shots on goal today Welbs didn't. Strikers need to score goals. Chico would've thrived in the 2nd half with Valencia raiding down the right smashing hard low crosses into the box but to expect him to be brilliant when the ball through midfield was moving like treacle is fanciful at best.
 
He shouldn't be starting currently. Two of Berba, Rooney, or Welbeck should be starting every game. Chicharito should be the first player off the bench if we decide to sub a striker.

His form hasn't been great lately but you still know he is likely to score if given a good opportunity.
 
Only thing I'll say about this is Hernandez managed to get two shots on goal today Welbs didn't. Strikers need to score goals. Chico would've thrived in the 2nd half with Valencia raiding down the right smashing hard low crosses into the box but to expect him to be brilliant when the ball through midfield was moving like treacle is fanciful at best.

This - i always going back to Fergie's crap starting team selection as the main cause of the defeat. One aspect of that was having to withdraw hernandez in the second half to fix the feck-up of the starting line-up. When we came to needing a third equaliser or a winner at 2-2 he could not longer call on hernandez from the bench and could only throw on will keane instead.

Having said that, Hernandez needs a run of games as his season has been start stop with injury. He looks unfit actually, with none of his touches coming off
 
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