We'll have to agree to disagree on that.
Javier Hernandez | 2010/11 Performances
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We'll have to agree to disagree on that.
I think he also suffered because Yorke and Cole had such a fantastic understanding.
Anyway I was just making the point that Ole was a cracking player who wasn't always first choice because we were spoilt for choice up front back then, today Ole would find it much easier to get in the starting line-up.
Yes, you are right about that. He was first choice in his debut season but the not again until 99/00 or thereabouts. His last whole season pre-injury was the season when he played wide a lot of the time (02/03) and he played a rather impressive 57 matches.
Interesting that he never bettered his debut league tally of 18.
A little misleading as he scored 19 in total 96-7 but managed 25 in total 01-2 including 17 in the league. Only mentioning this as younger fans may think he dropped off after his first season. In all scored 11 or more goals in 7 seasons and was very consistant when fully fit.
Yeah, I know. 02/03 was probably his best season overall not only in terms of goals.
Bolded the bits where I'd say Ole was a contender. And his pace wasn't bad in his earlier years either. Granted, he's never headed one in with the back of his head, but he's still had plenty excellent headed goals. And to say that positional sense, two-footedness and ability to get away from the marker are areas which Ole was lacking in seems ludicrous to me, even if that's meant to state how strong Hernandez is at them.
Just got a good video of the goooooal on footy tube today.
Jesus christ, the last 3 strides in his run before he touched the ball were fantastic. I'd heard all about his explosive pace, but the turn of speed he showed for 3 paces was terrific.
Jesus christ, the last 3 strides in his run before he touched the ball were fantastic. I'd heard all about his explosive pace, but the turn of speed he showed for 3 paces was terrific.
Michael Owen says Little Pea is like Little Me | Mail Online
Yes, Jamie, Hernandez lacks the pace and acceleration of Owen despite being clocked going literally 4 mph faster.
Dwight Yorke is writing about Hernandez in the Mail. Few good quotes I spotted, but there's more in the article.
my first impression is that he is just like Ole Gunnar Solskjaer in that he will get you a goal when you need one.
I was at United recently talking to Sir Alex about him and he told me that Hernandez was the fastest in the speed tests the club sets them.
The only word of warning I have is against labelling a ‘future United legend’ too early. He has only played a handful of matches so it is best not to get carried away. If he’s still playing like this in three or four years, then he will be a legend.
Read more: Dwight Yorke on Javier Hernandez, Manchester United's goal machine | Mail Online
my first impression is that he is just like Ole Gunnar Solskjaer in that he will get you a goal when you need one.
I was at United recently talking to Sir Alex about him and he told me that Hernandez was the fastest in the speed tests the club sets them.
The only word of warning I have is against labelling a ‘future United legend’ too early. He has only played a handful of matches so it is best not to get carried away. If he’s still playing like this in three or four years, then he will be a legend.
Read more: Dwight Yorke on Javier Hernandez, Manchester United's goal machine | Mail Online
You want to know who he has replaced from more recently, Tevez, dont get me wrong Tevez is a better player, but Hernandez is doing exactly what Tevez used to do for United.
Depends on the season. There times when Tevez couldn't put the ball in the net from the goal line for us. Some of the shots he missed I'll never understand.
Then again, he also popped up to score some major goals. Now he's run away to Argentina so he doesn't have to play us.
Hernandez is a totally different type of striker to Tevez, much quicker much more instinctive goalscorer, he'll score more goals for us and at a quicker rate than Tevez managed of that im certain, Tevez was a 1 in 3 man at this club (32 goals in 99 games or something like that), Hernandez even so early on is scoring at a far better rate.
I'm talking about role as a third striker, supersub
Fully fit we have 5 strikers.
1) When we play in tough games its 4-5-1 and its Rooney up front.
2) Against everyone except Chelsea, Arsenal and perhaps Shitty we will play 4-4-2. A combination from Rooney, Berba, Hernandez.
3) Carling Cup and FA games against weaker opposition Macheda and Owen will likely start.
Out of Rooney, Berba, Hernandez we have the following combinations:
Rooney Berba
Rooney Hernandez
Berba Hernandez
So far I would say Berba/Hernandez is showing better signs of gelling together than Rooney/Berba ever did.
I wonder if SAF has considered how a Rooney/Hernandez strikeforce would operatew.
1) When we play in tough games its 4-5-1 and its Rooney up front.
2) Against everyone except Chelsea, Arsenal and perhaps Shitty we will play 4-4-2. A combination from Rooney, Berba, Hernandez.
3) Carling Cup and FA games against weaker opposition Macheda and Owen will likely start.
Out of Rooney, Berba, Hernandez we have the following combinations:
Rooney Berba
Rooney Hernandez
Berba Hernandez
So far I would say Berba/Hernandez is showing better signs of gelling together than Rooney/Berba ever did.
I wonder if SAF has considered how a Rooney/Hernandez strikeforce would operatew.
Tevez may have been a goalscorer in big games for us, but so was Rooney last season.
And he's much more similar to last season's Rooney than Tevez.
And he's much more similar to last season's Rooney than Tevez.
For that to be the case he better do a 180 on form real quick
Labeling him a future United legend is indeed taking it a step too far too soon. I mean he is very talented and I hope he can do well for us in the coming years. He will do way better than Vela though - I think he already has.
I m surprised he is the fastest at the speed tests. He is ahead of Nani, Rooney, Valencia, Rafael and Fabio? That is very surprising indeed.
I m surprised he is the fastest at the speed tests. He is ahead of Nani, Rooney, Valencia, Rafael and Fabio? That is very surprising indeed.
Surprised you are surprised in that it talked about a lot at the world cup that he was the fastest player clocked ... that's against a lot larger pool, granted Nani, Twins, Valencia weren't there but, still.
It's isn't our only option. Rooney can play wide with either of the other two through the middle. In time, Hernandez might also be able to play in a wide role, ala Solskjaer.
Additionally we could play Rooney or Berbatov in a withdrawn role in a 4411. Provided our central midfield sorts it's life out. Carrick and Fletcher have done this on numerous occasions in Europe especially, and with wingers who work hard in Valencia and Park especially and even Nani these days, then we can still have a very solid midfield with 2 front men.
How wrong does that headline look?
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Probably quickest acceleration through watching him he does not seem that rapid.
Even though I only watched on TV I was following his run and it was just amazing!
eh no hes not...different players completely
He was rated the fastest at the WC
Please don't put H on the wing - it will be a waste.
Pretty spot on.
Watch his goal VS Wolves again, he was tackled by the defender... is slightly unbalanced... Sees the potential in the counter attack and ACCELERATES like "WOW!" to get into the position to score.
He is not quick on the ball for me... but "Off" the ball, he is one quick player.
I think whats even more impressive than his off the ball speed in that move, is the fact that just as he reaches the speed of sound, he has the ball control and quality to throw the dummy he does. Its not just a fake shot, but a quick flick to push the ball, whilst still under complete control, onto his left side so he can finish with that foot. Now to do that without messing up, when he's moving at such a speed shows a real fluid ability to transition from high speed to delicate touch. Something players like Ronaldo rely on.
It was good skill but the defender really did sell himself short by first not reading the run and second the crazy dive. Not taking anything away from H but lets not get too carried away.
Its the transition more than the skill thats impressive. If you can fluidly move from top speed to delicate touch and vice versa, then you'll rarely mess up a move by trying to move too fast and as such forgetting the ball or overhitting it. There isnt a huge amount of players who can keep full control of the ball like that whilst running at such high speed. And fewer still are strikers with proper strikers instincts like Hernandez. Most players of this type will be wingers like Ronaldo, Messi, Robben, Ribery and so on.
And yeah its a crazy dive, but what option does he have? Hernandez put him in that position with his speed and movement, and he was clever enough to realise that the defender would only get there by diving in. So he took the oppertunity to sit him down.
It's all about decision making. Some players act on instinct others are more controlled = some are just hyperactive.
In front of goals H s quick and dynamic he will try to score whenever possible. Contrast to Berba who is more controlled he will try to weigh up his options.
For example the goal against Stoke. Berba heald onto the ball for a a few seconds - someone like ROn would have hit a shot off. Berba remained clam and dinked a little chip to Scholes who headed it into the path of Evra.
H then came alive in the second phase he was buzzing around as the defenders stood still.
Only truly great players have both the clamness and instinct.
In front of goals H s quick and dynamic he will try to score whenever possible. Contrast to Berba who is more controlled he will try to weigh up his options.
For example the goal against Stoke. Berba heald onto the ball for a a few seconds - someone like ROn would have hit a shot off. Berba remained clam and dinked a little chip to Scholes who headed it into the path of Evra.
H then came alive in the second phase he was buzzing around as the defenders stood still.
Only truly great players have both the clamness and instinct.
His goal against Venezuela showed how good his acceleration can be aswell, when the cross was coming in he wasnt even in the box
feck that. im getting a shirt with his name on it
Add Barca to the list, He's scored against them as well when he played for Chivas.
Add us to the list as well then.
Viva Chicharito!
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