Jarrad Branthwaite

Hanky panky said:
De Ligt 43M (£), Branthwaite 60M? There really is no value available in EPL. Even smaller and middle table clubs has money to say no. We should be aiming to continental Europe. Players there are easily 20-30% cheaper, if not more.
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Two completely different deals, though.

Bayern want de Ligt gone, mostly because of financial reasons and it also seems like Kompany would rather have Upamecano over him.

Everton value Branthwaite very highly, and don't want him to leave this summer, unless the offer is so good that they feel like they can't refuse it.

If Bayern considered de Ligt a key player for their future, they wouldn't even consider offers under the amount that they bought him for, which is around £65m.
 
This feels like the Football Manager tactic of just repeatedly bidding for the player to unsettle them!

I do like that we're going for him and De Ligt, and looking to really build out from the back.
 
Overhaul FC said:
We clearly want the LCB to be the ball player, that feeds the midfield and attack.

The RCBs will be De Ligt and Varane types, good in the air and reasonable with the feet ala vidic.
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De Ligt is an excellent ball playing defender, he’s not in the vidic mould in that sense
 
The way transfers work for us, we should completely abandon it and have a plan of approaching and unsettling future free agents that have 1-2 years left on their contract. That way we will overpay only once instead of transfers and wages.
 
If the deal goes around 50, I would be happy. More than that, we should completely forget it.

Branthwaite is young, can potentially cover at left back and replace Licha in the LCB position, but it shouldn't be more than 50M for him.

I am sure that we can have other, better players for the same amount or less
 
NotThatSoph said:
The replies you've been getting to this are some of the strangest I've seen. Really fascinating.
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Does feel a bit fragile. Don't think I'm being too controversial with what I'm saying.

The Everton sources and club comments have made it very clear where we stand on our players and Branthwaite and in his case the fee we have attached to him that we would like to receive.
 
SilentWitness said:
Does feel a bit fragile. Don't think I'm being too controversial with what I'm saying.

The Everton sources and club comments have made it very clear where we stand on our players and Branthwaite and in his case the fee we have attached to him that we would like to receive.
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Keith Wyness has been saying the same again and again on the Football Insider pod. I do wonder if a large chunk of that asking price could be in the form of achievable add-ons.
 
'Are you worth 70m lad?'

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If we really want him. Just wait a year then go back in for him when we have more money. Liverpool waiting a year for VVD. We’d still be getting a very young player. There is the chance he has a better season though and price goes up.
 
matherto said:
I'd like to think it's actively being considered.

Perhaps the next bid and if it's rejected we walk which is fair. Everton have a time limit on this so we can push them still.
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What is our time limit?
 
El-Manos said:
Nobody is paying that. He’ll be staying.
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The Maguire price (and other stupid deals) continues to haunt us and get thrown around as the base level. Read a good article (Athletic maybe) about PSR and impact on likely fees and that the days of 80m, even a 100m are probably gone.

Hope we stick to a tfr plan and move on OR only increase if it’s well structured (win/win) add ons.

Mates an Everton fan and says he’s class but doesn’t get all arsy about our involvement and us being “entitled” like a lot of Everton fans
 
I haven't watched a huge amount of him but I am pleased to see that the club knows we need more than 1 centre back this summer.
 
Imagine we paying 70m pounds for again another Maguire and Arsenal as usual make the better deal by signing an Italy international huge defensive talent for almost half that price.
 
Giggsyking said:
Imagine we paying 70m pounds for again another Maguire and Arsenal as usual make the better deal by signing an Italy international huge defensive talent for almost half that price.
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Really is fantastic to come on and check the progress of a signing yet get cutting edge analysis like this.
 
Everton are just being greedy here demanding a fee thats almost twice his actual market value but what did we expect from one of the cartel clubs? They were always going to try to take us to the cleaners.

We should walk away now and call their bluff.
 
RedRocket9908 said:
Everton are just being greedy here demanding a fee thats almost twice his actual market value but what did we expect from one of the cartel clubs? They were always going to try to take us to the cleaners.

We should walk away now and call their bluff.
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:lol: I wish this was a parody but you're actually being serious.
 
Utd heap said:
Really is fantastic to come on and check the progress of a signing yet get cutting edge analysis like this.
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But true. I do not think Branthwaite is a better player Maguire tbh. Feel free to disagree and move on.
 
SilentWitness said:
:lol: I wish this was a parody but you're actually being serious.
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What part of my comment dont you agree with? This isnt a player you paid big money for or even an academy player you have developed for years, its s player you bought 3 years ago from Carlisle for 1m so there is absolutely no justificatiin for demanding such an extortianate price.

The offer on 45m +£5m add-ons was above his value and they should have bitten our hand off for that.
 
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RedRocket9908 said:
What part of my comment dont you agree with? This isnt a player you paid big money for or even an academy player you have developed for years, its s player you bought 3 years ago from Carlisle for 1m so there is absolutely no justificatiin for demanding such an extortianate price.

The offer on 45m +?5m add-ons was above his value and they should have bitten our hand off for that.
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Everything. It's a daft post and comes across as incredibly arrogant.
 
SilentWitness said:
Everything. It's a daft post and comes across as incredibly arrogant.
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I dunno, I would tend to agree with him. I think that all clubs in the PL should have their players valued by an independent valuer and United should be allowed to buy them at our leisure. Players should also graciously accept their current wages when they join us on the understanding that we are doing them a favour in allowing them to join our (previously) illustrious club.
 
I can understand Everton's reluctance to let him go for less than £70M. He will have another great season and there will be more clubs in for him next summer.
 
mctrials23 said:
I dunno, I would tend to agree with him. I think that all clubs in the PL should have their players valued by an independent valuer and United should be allowed to buy them at our leisure. Players should also graciously accept their current wages when they join us on the understanding that we are doing them a favour in allowing them to join our (previously) illustrious club.
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:lol:
 
This is not an exercise in buying Jarrad Braithwaite. It's an exercise in loudly signalling to the market that we don't overpay any more. As such it's going really well.
 
I know it sounds crazy, but I think that It's a win-win scenario for United.
  • If Everton does not sell him for 50m, we can say that we know when to pull out of a deal, and we won't be taken for a ride. It will send a message that United is no longer a cow you can milk at any time. At this exact stage, Woodward would've done something stupid, like throw an extra 30m, just to get him.
  • If Everton does sell him for 50m, we will show that we know how to negotiate, that our second bid is actually, our second and final, and that if not accepted, we are ready to move to other targets if our valuation of a player is not accepted
Before, clubs knew that once we sent the first bid for one of their players, they could absolutely take us to the cleaners. This is why Borussia Dortmund tried that 130m ask for Sancho the first time around, why we had to pay a bit more for Mount, Martinez, and why Ajax got 86m for Antony.
 
Tom Van Persie said:
I can understand Everton's reluctance to let him go for less than £70M. He will have another great season and there will be more clubs in for him next summer.
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Or they could get relegated, he gets founds out and have to sell him for £20m. £50m is more than fair value for a player of his quality and experience. Now, Everton can demand whatever they want, but it's not certain that his value will only increase from here.
 
I hope we won't budge and just leave if the demand is unrealistic. 70m is too much in my opinion.
Looking back anytime the club is desperate for a deal it rarely ends well.
 
If we pay anything above 50million it will be a clear indication that nothing has changed in terms of us paying over the odds.
 
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