January Transfer Window

Luke Shaw and William Carvalho would be a dream window.

Then in the summer try and get that creative midfielder. Fabregas, if he's still not playing enough at Barca.
 
Lawro's piece in the Mirror...he reckons we need a few players (stating the obvious) and that RVP is unsettled.

David Moyes knows he has to be more decisive and United more ruthless.

He has to decide on the players that are coming to an end and make plans to move them on, as Fergie would have done. He then has to decide on the players he wants in to replace them.

Moyes needs four or five and the chief executive Ed Woodward needs to operate in a way that reminds English – and possibly even European – football about just how big Manchester United are.

United don’t get snubbed by players. Players consider it an honour to even be linked with a move to Old Trafford.

If they can’t get the players they want in January, at least get the players they want to agree to come ahead of a summer transfer.

Look at the free-scoring Atletico Madrid star Diego Costa. What a statement he would be if United were to get him ahead of the likes of Chelsea or Liverpool, or Ander Herrera of Athletic Bilbao.

You bring in that type of stellar signing with their best years ahead of them, and you are back to doing what United are best at in the transfer market – snapping up the top talent around.

United also need to sort the Van Persie situation. Whatever he may say publicly, he is clearly unsettled.

They need to find out whether he really does want to go or not once and for all.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...#ixzz2ozYrPNNW
 
I was never impressed by him. He suited Everton's direct game perfectly and exploited the EPL top clubs need to adapt to continental football with his height and physicality. However he's too immobile to act as a quality defensive midfielder, he lacks vision, creativity and technique to play a more attacking role and if you play him the Everton way in the CL he'll end up kicked out of the pitch long before the game has ended.

If you ask me, he may be useful as Rooney's cover as he gives a different approach to the game then the English international. However geez what a waste of 28m.
Think you are seriously underestimating Fellaini here Develish though I guess time will tell.
 
United have been made aware of Southampton's determination to hold onto Shaw, with executive chairman Nicola Cortese preparing to reject all interest, but with Chelsea joining the hunt, United accept they may be forced to move for the England U-21 defender in January.
Although Moyes has yet to publicly end his interest in Baines, the Scot has been given no indication that the player or Everton will unlock the door to a move next month.
United have also monitored the form of Real Madrid's Brazilian defender Marcelo. A renewed move for Real's Portuguese defender Fabio Coentrao is unlikely.
United are continuing to watch Porto's Eliaquim Mangala and Lucho Gonzalez, but interest in Athletic Bilbao's Ander Herrera has waned. Inter Milan's Colombian midfielder Fredy Guarin is another player on Moyes' radar.
Moyes will listen to offers for Brazilian midfielder Anderson and full-back Alexander Buttner.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-bid-for-Southampton-full-back-Luke-Shaw.html
 
United also need to sort the Van Persie situation. Whatever he may say publicly, he is clearly unsettled.

Based on what exactly Lawro? That getty image of him in training talking to Moyes with a sulking expression? Football journalism.

Shaw would be an ideal forward thinking signing, that would be a very good start to Moyes building his own side.
 
Lucho Gonzalez? :lol: he's older than Carrick.
 
Interesting that Lawrenson is still sticking by his RVP rumour.

I reckon he's sticking to it because he was so adamant something was up earlier (claimed RVP had handed in a transfer request, if memory serves). I haven't seen a shred of proof RVP is unsettled and his new mate Savage says the very opposite: RVP loves it at United.
 
Disagree, we don't need Carvalho. We need experience in the middle not more projects.

Agree. But who is there, right now that we could get?

Carvalho would be exciting & probably available for January. A young player with big potential. Same with Shaw.

In the summer we can go all out for that experienced midfielder. Unless you think we could get Baines and Cabaye now? That would be good to but less exciting that Shaw and Carvalho, long term.
 
Agree. But who is there, right now that we could get?

Carvalho would be exciting & probably available for January. A young player with big potential. Same with Shaw.

In the summer we can go all out for that experienced midfielder. Unless you think we could get Baines and Cabaye now? That would be good to but less exciting that Shaw and Carvalho, long term.


First off, no way should we be touching Baines. Just want to make that crystal clear, said the same about Fellaini and i'll say it with Baines. Just no! Shaw for me is a player we should be throwing money at to get. Young, English, exciting player in a position we need sorting. It's a no brainer in my eyes. He'll remain at the club for countless years and so throwing 25m odd will be a sound investment long term.

If we want experienced midfielders in January we should be looked at Matuidi at PSG and Rakitic at Sevilla, i'd also throw Cabaye and Schneiderlin into the frame. But I think in midfield we need experience and hence why we should go for 1 of the 4 names I've mentioned above over Carvalho.
 
Agree. But who is there, right now that we could get?

Carvalho would be exciting & probably available for January. A young player with big potential. Same with Shaw.

In the summer we can go all out for that experienced midfielder. Unless you think we could get Baines and Cabaye now? That would be good to but less exciting that Shaw and Carvalho, long term.

Carvalho doesn't solve any of our problems though. We need a midfield playmaker not another defensive minded midfielder. Throw the money at gundogan or koke.
 
Carvalho doesn't solve any of our problems though. We need a midfield playmaker not another defensive minded midfielder. Throw the money at gundogan or koke.

If we could get Gundogan or Koke now, brilliant. But if not, then wait til the summer. In the meantime Carvalho would be an exciting signing for a January window. Carrick's not going to last forever.
 
First off, no way should we be touching Baines. Just want to make that crystal clear, said the same about Fellaini and i'll say it with Baines. Just no! Shaw for me is a player we should be throwing money at to get. Young, English, exciting player in a position we need sorting. It's a no brainer in my eyes. He'll remain at the club for countless years and so throwing 25m odd will be a sound investment long term.

If we want experienced midfielders in January we should be looked at Matuidi at PSG and Rakitic at Sevilla, i'd also throw Cabaye and Schneiderlin into the frame. But I think in midfield we need experience and hence why we should go for 1 of the 4 names I've mentioned above over Carvalho.

Agree 100% regarding Baines and Shaw.

As for the 4 names you mentioned, I'd say Cabaye since he's familiar with the PL.
 
Agree 100% regarding Baines and Shaw.

As for the 4 names you mentioned, I'd say Cabaye since he's familiar with the PL.


Well it depends on the positions we want filling. If we want a playmaker, i'd go with Rakitic over Cabaye. But having said that, i'd still be happy with Cabaye. I just rate Rakitic and think he's on the verge of being a special player and more importantly, he's a leader and produces moments of magic when the chips are down.

If we want a defensive midfielder, i'd probably go for Matuidi, not that often a player of his caliber comes on the market. He's also out of contract in the Summer, so he won't be that expensive. But I also rate Schneiderlin, so again, would be happy with either.
 
First off, no way should we be touching Baines. Just want to make that crystal clear, said the same about Fellaini and i'll say it with Baines. Just no! Shaw for me is a player we should be throwing money at to get. Young, English, exciting player in a position we need sorting. It's a no brainer in my eyes. He'll remain at the club for countless years and so throwing 25m odd will be a sound investment long term.

If we want experienced midfielders in January we should be looked at Matuidi at PSG and Rakitic at Sevilla, i'd also throw Cabaye and Schneiderlin into the frame. But I think in midfield we need experience and hence why we should go for 1 of the 4 names I've mentioned above over Carvalho.

I like this post very much.
 
Yeah, RedSky is talking sense. A perfect January window then would be Shaw & one of those experienced midfielders mentioned above.
 
Rakitic would be my pick in January as well. Big game player, winner, good on the ball under pressure, scores goals, links play with the attack.

Basically the ideal Carrick foil.
 
Rakitic would be my pick in January as well. Big game player, winner, good on the ball under pressure, scores goals, links play with the attack.

Basically the ideal Carrick foil.


And more importantly, he is getable, and probably getable in January if we stump up the cash. Unlike Koke & Gundogan. 18 months left on Rakitic's current deal I think.
 
Carvalho doesn't solve any of our problems though. We need a midfield playmaker not another defensive minded midfielder. Throw the money at gundogan or koke.


I disagree. Carvalho and Carrick will provide the much needed steel to allow us to play Rooney in the hole behind RVP. Some people are ignoring the fact that Carrick is 32. We'll soon be needing a quality cover for him which, the 2 years time, should become his successor

In summer we will be able to get the playmaker we need. Gundogan and Herrera should be at the very end of their contract (I think)
 
And more importantly, he is getable, and probably getable in January if we stump up the cash. Unlike Koke & Gundogan. 18 months left on Rakitic's current deal I think.

Yeah I would obviously like to sign Ramsey, Fabregas etc but we're not getting them. Thought that was basic reasoning before posting in this thread.
 
Being purely rational, an experienced and obtainable midfielder like the ones mentioned would be a logical move in this window (provided they're good enough, obviously). Any of the more ambitious targets would probably be easier to get in the summer.

If I'm being honest though what I really want is for us to sign an exciting player for cm, someone who brings a bit of spark and imagination. So I'd actually be pretty pleased if we signed a talented prospect, even if they could only contribute so much this season. I'd kill for someone of Januzaj's potential in midfield, or someone at the level players like DDG, Rooney, Ronaldo or even Anderson were when we signed them.
 
Regarding Rakitic: for someone to be the ideal Carrick foil, I think he'd need to have a little more pace, a bit more athleticism but I'm nitpicking, really.
 
Moyes on the January transfer window:
"I'm not sure it's a brilliant month to do business but we'll be looking, like everybody else."

As opposed to the brilliant month of August, which was a roaring success.
 
I dont want read too much into what is being said in public but i do hope Moyes is playing a game here.


Granted January is not a good month do to business.

But

-after a farce of transfer window we had last summer
-knowing how dire our midfield has been for last few years
-taking our league form and postion into consideration
-with a very likely threat of missing out on CL football for the first time in ages and with
- and with WC summer that both inflates the prices and leaves just month to do business

I hope that Moyes and Idiot (eksm I mean Eddie) will make sure we spend money this January.


What are the altenratives?

missing out on CL for a season or two? two seasons are likely if we approach our summer dealings as we did last season.
 
"I'm not sure it's a brilliant month to do business but we'll be looking, like everybody else."

Not surprised. Moyes will keep on giving the impression of actively seeking players,while really hanging on till summer where the real business will be done.
 
I dont want read too much into what is being said in public but i do hope Moyes is playing a game here.


Granted January is not a good month do to business.

But

-after a farce of transfer window we had last summer
-knowing how dire our midfield has been for last few years
-taking our league form and postion into consideration
-with a very likely threat of missing out on CL football for the first time in ages and with
- and with WC summer that both inflates the prices and leaves just month to do business

I hope that Moyes and Idiot (eksm I mean Eddie) will make sure we spend money this January.


What are the altenratives?

missing out on CL for a season or two? two seasons are likely if we approach our summer dealings as we did last season.


Failure to address the needs in the next month could set us back a couple of years. It is worth paying a premium on a player as if we don't make 4th this season then it's a disaster as far as I'm concerned. United not in the CL, it's unthinkable. It will have a knock on effect as to who we can attract, like or not every top player wants to play in the CL and rightly so.
 
Moyes will look at a loan signing - he's done this with Everton quite a lot of times & I reckon we will see something similar this January.