So how is it looking so far? What are the chances Carra keeps his job now I wonder x
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Ahh, no I haven't actually. Thanks for the tip
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Yeah, the reaction is strange. I've never, ever done it, and come to think of it, I haven't even been close to contemplating doing it, not even as a short-fused teenager.
He made a mistake, it was a terrible thing, he has apologised and he will be punished however his employer deems fit. I don't understand, but I am not surprised, at the continued outcry from the media. I think the media outcry over this has been the bigger crime to be honest.
That's exactly my point, if he done it on camera then I can't see a reason why wouldn't he do it again or have done it before. He's a good pundit but seems like a classless twat outside of the studio.
Disappointed there isn't a photoshop thread
Sky should tie him to a chair. Fill the studio with United supporters all chanting United! United! and allow the girl and her entire family to gob all over him shouting 2-1. Could raise some money for sport relief Jamie. Bit of fun hehe
I have to say I do find it interesting how the father seems less appalled by his daughter's having been spat on, and more excited by the shock value of it all. I have more to say about the situation in general, but have to make dinner. Stay tuned!
Needs photoshopped thread, also change title to spitty C.
Missed that one. What’s that all about?
I just saw the video.
It was like a waterfall came gushing out from Carra.
Despicable act.
It was like a waterfall came gushing out from Carra.
Despicable act.
Hysterical? For believing that a man/ media personality should be sacked after spitting in the face of a 14-year old girl? If that's your opinion fine, I'm good with being part of the minority.
I don't even want to dive back into this discussion, but the only reason why I told him not to try is because you said it would be "daft" to consider this a vile act (you came up with the word "evil", which I hadn't even used).
For what it's worth Carragher is my favorite pundit and it would be a shame to see him go, although I would completely understand if that does happen given the circumstances.
Watching him mumble and stumble on SSN.
Just want the commentators to say " C'mon Jamie, spit it out!"
Just want the commentators to say " C'mon Jamie, spit it out!"
There was less fuss made about Kirsty Gallagher picking her kids up drunk, than there is about this spitting thing. She still has her job, and if he does get sacked for this it’s an outrage. Sacked for spitting vs not sacked for being 3 times over the limit with kids in the car.
He didn’t aim for the girl, and you can say it’s disgusting and you’re right, it is, but to my mind it’s far more disgusting to drive with your phone out. That’s actually putting lives at risk. Yet all anyone is talking about is spitting. Kinda strange.
Well at the time I posted yesterday afternoon, there was no dedicated thread to the issue like there is here.
Not saying it will not have been mentioned within the match thread or similar, but no dedicated thread.
Forgive my ignorance but I know nothing of the Kirsty Gallacher story - disgusting behaviour and after a quick search it seems that she's been banned from her job for 2 years (I won't dive into that).
Regardless, there's no point to comparing this case to any other. That's a dangerous approach that could lead to potential legitimization of any inappropriate action or behaviour.
And I honestly can't understand the "he didn't aim for the girl" fallacy. He opened his window, saw that the other car window was down, and still decided to spit "in the direction of" of that little girls face. End result is he spat in her face and that's what he's on the hook for, rightly so.
He should be Sacked. Others lost their jobs for less. It is the most disgusting thing to do. I hate him for it.
How did he have that much spit in hos mouth? Surely must have loaded it up.
Yep. He's from Liverpool, so he might have been carrying TB for goodness sake! It may be worse than Ron's, I suppose, but I'll let others decide that. For me, ranking them is like judging a beauty contest for dog-turds.
Yep. He's from Liverpool - he might have TB. Or leprosy. So for me, ranking these acts is a bit like judging a beauty contest for dog turds.
She’s been banned from driving, but she’s still an employee of sky. You’ll have to forgive me, but the comparison is valid. Both work for sky, both did something wrong. If one loses their job but not the other it’s not right by any measurement. Especially when you consider that driving drunk is far far worse than spitting at someone.
As for the spitting itself, it’s not a fallacy. There’s intent and there’s accidental. The result isn’t the only thing that should matter. No he shouldn’t have done it, but it’s a bit harsh to just label him unworthy of forgiveness considering that he has apologised and it is out of character. Just like driving drunk was out of character for Kirsty and she was forgiven and given a second chance.
It was a moment of stupidity, and I think we can all agree sometimes things just get to us and we over react and do something stupid. It’s not an excuse, but there’s context to every story.
But again, I must stress that spitting at anyone while disgusting, doesn’t actually put anyone else at risk. Driving and using a phone can and does cost lives. Where’s the outrage for that? In 2016 mobile phone usage while driving accounted for around 78% of all traffic accidents that involved a distracted driver and included injury in the US. Exactly 0% involved spitting. It’s outrageous that all anyone wants to talk about is him spitting and getting sacked for it. There’s a 14 year old girl in that car that got spat on, but no one seems to care that her father put her LIFE at risk for no other reason than to annoy someone else.
A the tit award of the thread goes to you Sir.
Just because Kirsty kept her job doesn't mean Jamie has to?
She 100 percent should have been fired, it doesn't mean Sky should forever recreate the same mistake.
She 100 percent should have been fired, it doesn't mean Sky should forever recreate the same mistake.
How can a grown up man behave like that I guess he was burning inside because of the defeat and his criticisms of Jose. Still, no excuse...Should quit, and not wait to get fired. Totally embarassing.
I guess he was burning inside because of the defeat and his criticisms of Jose. Still, no excuse...Should quit, and not wait to get fired. Totally embarassing.What she did was horrible and she should have been fired for good.
I'm just of the opinion that Jamie should be sacked too. You aren't.
Agree to disagree
A couple of differences for me. First, is that Keys and Gray had form for their lazy sexist views. Keys in particular held plenty of prejudices, had been caught out before and had largely been indulged by Sky. I certainly don't recall any defences made of his personality by others in the industry. Second, there's a difference between the matter-of-fact way that Keys, Gray or Atkinson said what they said, compared to the provoked nature of this incident. One comes across as a more routine expression of underlying views or prejudices, the other as an over-the-top reaction to a provocation.
Ridiculous poll. A 14 year old girl isn't into a little pink pony.
I’m unconvinced she should have been fired. As I understand it, she went for a night out and perfectly properly left her car behind and got a taxi home. The next morning at 11am she got stopped and was still well over the limit. Whilst she probably should have known she was still drunk, I suspect a lot of people have done similar thinking they must be under the limit several hours later. It seems a lot more defensible than someone (e.g. Rooney) who gets straight in a car from the pub.
Almost laughable to see Vinnie Jones and Joey Barton having a go at Carragher for this, must be so easy for those two to criticise him from their ivory towers on the moral high ground, considering their gentlemanly behaviour and whiter than white characters.
Agreed.
Doesn’t really matter which is worse either, seems an odd question to ask. Sexism is disgusting. Spitting on someone is disgusting. All twats for doing it.
A bit late to the party on this one so not sure if it's already been mentioned. Yes, what Jamie did was bad but it means nobody is actually thinking about the father who goaded and filmed him.
It's against the law to use your mobile phone while driving, so why hasn't that guy been arrested? There's video proof of him breaking the law!
It's against the law to use your mobile phone while driving, so why hasn't that guy been arrested? There's video proof of him breaking the law!
Tony Cascarino, er, describing Arsenal's defending during the 8-2 match.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2011/aug/28/tony-cascarino-football-arsenal
Christ, didn't realise they had a second incident with Dermot Gallagher. When did that become a 'phrase' in any right-minded person's head?
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...lagher-makes-holocaust-reference-8493252.html
If it was water from a water bottle directly then thats not so bad. Im not defending him but being spat on with saliva is a much more disgusting act. I did wonder how the man could produce so much saliva!
Read back, LOADS of people have mentioned it.
The guy may have already been contacted by police for all we know and hopefully he gets dealt with according to the law (driving while using your phone is stupid/very dangerous).
They're both stupid/scummy .... they should BOTH get dealt with. Personally, I'd sack Carragher (and nothing to do with being an ex LFC player), though possibly in the minority. As I said several hundred posts ago, my gut feel was SKY would sound tough and hope for it all to settle down.... looks like that's exactly what they're doing.
(PS. "goaded"? Nah.)
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