I think he should soak up as many minutes and learn from the star strikers in the first half of the season and then possibly go out on loan in January. Let him get used to the first team life at United first.
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I think he should soak up as many minutes and learn from the star strikers in the first half of the season and then possibly go out on loan in January. Let him get used to the first team life at United first.
Well hopefully the Falcao signing is with this lad in mind. We know that in 3 seasons time our top 3 strikers will probably be over the hill, but as Wilson is an out and out number 9 there's not necessarily a need to search for a promising young forward, as we could still field a front four of Wilson, Mata, Januzaj, Di Maria. All lefties.
Have to say, for all my negativity about the Welbeck thing I am quite excited about young Wilson training with Radamel fecking Falcao on a daily basis.
100% the decision to sell Welbeck is with this lad in my mind.
He's going to be top quality and LVG will give him opportunities. As much as i like Welbeck, Wilson is going to be a better finisher.
He's going to be top quality and LVG will give him opportunities. As much as i like Welbeck, Wilson is going to be a better finisher.
This is IMO the saving grace, yes.
Wilson will get chances this season. Which excites me.
Hmmm... Not sure about that. I really hope to feck we have a decent FA Cup run because it's going to be a crappy season for fringe players if we don't....
It will likely take just one injury to see him on the bench. He will get games.
I think we should be wary of pinning all our future hopes on him. He might only be 18 but we need to bear in mind how good Welbeck was at that age and for me the latter was just as impressive, if not more so.
He's not ready to be a starter IMO, and if he gets loaned out he wont start there either.
I think now it's important for him to train hard and improve his game by learning from RVP, Falcao & Rooney whilst playing in the FA Cup & getting bench minutes.
I think now it's important for him to train hard and improve his game by learning from RVP, Falcao & Rooney whilst playing in the FA Cup & getting bench minutes.
Good point. If he can't learn from three of the most lethal strikers of their generation, he'll never learn.
Aye, that's true. With Hernandez and Welbeck both gone he'll be our new super-sub striker. Which is exciting.
He is perhaps the winner of the transfer window in forwards department. Welbeck gone, Chicharito will be unlikely to return next season and the 3 big name strikers currently are all 28+. It shows the faith LvG and Giggs have in him to make it big here in future.
I also think that he will perhaps develop better by training with likes of Di Maria, Mata and the 3 forwards than at loan somewhere where there is lesser quality in squad. He too could have easily landed a premiership club loan deal, seeing Powell, M. Keane et al landed loan deals despite making lesser impact. LvG must have told him that he will develop better by staying with the squad even if game time will be limited.
I also think that he will perhaps develop better by training with likes of Di Maria, Mata and the 3 forwards than at loan somewhere where there is lesser quality in squad. He too could have easily landed a premiership club loan deal, seeing Powell, M. Keane et al landed loan deals despite making lesser impact. LvG must have told him that he will develop better by staying with the squad even if game time will be limited.
This transfer market has worked in his favour, with RVP in his early thirties Wilson will get his chance in the next few years, he just needs to keep his head down and learn off Falcao and RVP, i'm sure he will get some game time. Unlike Welbeck this guy can actually score goals, LVG made the right decision to discard Welbeck and promote Wilson.
Yeah, I mean his debut was pretty awful
He has not played enough times yet to show me he isn't ready. All I have seen so far is positives.
Perfect opportunity here for wilson, two of the big three strikers are not the same players anymore.. and the one we've brought in is an unknown quantity in terms of fitness. I think the lad will see some game-time this season and will hopefully make a name for himself.
He'll likely to get his chances.. No way RVP and rooney will go through the season uninjured. Falcao had just returned from a 7 months lay off as well..
We'll replace Rooney and RVP with other established forwards and Wilson will force a move for regular game time. My advice, don't get too close.
Bench RVP and Rooney start Wilson alongside Falcao with Mata behind.
I don't agree with that. Was Welbeck as prolific as Wilson for the youth set up? I'm pretty sure Wilson has something like 27 goals in 33 appearances. He's also very, very strong in his all around play. If he's given chances and stays fit, this lad could be a super star.
Yeah, I mean his debut was pretty awful
He has not played enough times yet to show me he isn't ready. All I have seen so far is positives.
He had an amazing debut.
Doesn't mean he's ready, especially when the team are getting hung in the media left and right for every move they make - it's not up to him to burden that kind of responsibility.
He'll get chances and he'll be nurtured properly under LVG, but it's important to be patient and not expect him to be a regular starter at an unrealistic rate.
I feel sorry for this kid.
He's being ridiculously over-rated on here.
The inevitable back lash will come soon, too.
He's being ridiculously over-rated on here.
The inevitable back lash will come soon, too.
He wasn't, but he looked every bit a potential superstar. We should also bear in mind that Welbeck was a regular at every England youth level and Wilson got one appearance at schoolboy level but was completely overlooked until u19s. He might just be a late bloomer and could well end up the better player, but Welbeck was an absolute gem of a youngster.
Can I borrow your crystal ball?
Nothing to do with getting close. If Wilson comes good, club will not unnecessarily spend on strikers from outside. It is matter of making most of the chances when offered. Let's see if Wilson does that.
The team last year got backlashed and if anything Januzaj was even better for it. Some people have the right mentality no matter the situation, and Wilson seems that type to me. If you hear him talking about the future, he doesn't say "Oh we will see what happens I need more experience". He says he feels ready and just wants to play for the first team. It's no surprise to me that while the rest of the muppets struggled against MK Dons, in 20 minutes he made 3 goalscoring opportunity. I think give the lad a chance, if he struggles then fine take him out and loan.
You only need to look at the past to predict the future. Can either one of you tell me the last time a home grown youth forward besides Welbeck broke into the first team? Bet you'll have to google for an answer.
Well that's not true.
Something that's been made absolutely clear in this particular transfer window!
If it happens, it happens. I'm sure he'll be given adequate opportunity to prove otherwise. LVG isn't type of player to get rid of youngsters without giving them a chance to prove themselves.
Never as clinical. That's the difference and the reason ultimately Welbeck couldn't play in his position enough
RVP is going for surgery which makes Wilson 3rd choice, Falcao is injury prone and he becomes 2nd... He will get a few games..
Might be wrong here but one of the reasons Welbeck felt he had to leave was because Wilson was declared to be ahead of him in the pecking order. That's not too bad of a sign in all honesty.
Januzaj is also a good option up front.
List me all the top clubs who have home grown forwards breaking into first team, year after year. Bet you'll have to google for an answer.
That's all well and good but even Januzaj wasn't a guaranteed starter last season and towards the end of last season the quality in his performances dropped. And this season he hasn't started brightly either.
I'm not denying his abilities but these are facts of the matter, it looks as though he needs to slowly regain his match sharpness.
Wilson would be under much more pressure than Januzaj ever has been - nobody expected goals from Januzaj but it was a great bonus. Being a guaranteed starting striker means you have to score, and be trusted to score consistently.
Coming on as a sub against Hull and MK Dons and performing well is completely different to starting a game against Chelsea or City & being expected to score past Kompany/Hart & Terry/Courtois.
He's not ready for that, and it's not worth risking his growth and our league position at this point.
Sure, he can make appearances against lower league clubs, but as Burnley & MK Dons have proven every single team will be playing us knowing that they can win or frustrate us into a draw. That's why it's better to introduce him when the game is won.
True, things do change, but we learn our history to try and shape our future and predict or prevent negative repeating patterns/cycles.
LVG does like youth players, but he only has three years to build a successful team and go out with a bang. Don't expect a contract extension, this is his final hurrah. Youth won't be as big a priority as it was at earlier clubs he managed.
Is he a bigger talent than Welbeck?
I'd be delighted if he makes similar progress to Welbeck by the time he is 21.
I'd be delighted if he makes similar progress to Welbeck by the time he is 21.
That is the thing though I don't think LVG believes in promoting youth players for the sake of it, he has a genuine belief that the promotion of quality youth products lead to successful football. Hence why if he thinks using James is going to benefit the team as a whole, he'll do it. He's not Mourinho... his use of Blackett, proves he isn't afraid of taking risks. If he feels wilson is showing more in training than the others and then the lad scores when he is given game time, he'll promote him sharpish. Names mean feck all to him.
I don't care about other clubs in all honesty. United's youth academy has always been revered as an institution of excellence, yet Welbeck is the only forward that made the first team in about 30 years since Whiteside and Hughes. Fergie was big on strikers, being one himself in his playing days and he failed to produce one for the first team bar Welbeck.
Haven't you been following this thread?
Yes, because we kept him and sold Welbeck. Therefore Wilson is already better because he's never missed a chance. Or something like that.
Im rooting for Wilson. I just know the odds are stacked against him. He'll get his chances and I hope he impresses, because we're definitely going to dip in the transfer market big time to replace Rooney and RVP, and those replacements will get automatic game time.