With some players, special talents like Januzaj and Wilson, I wouldn't want them to be loaned out. Let them develop in our team and fight their way into the squad like Januzaj has done. He'll get his chances but he'll learn more training with Rooney and RvP and with our staff then him going on loan anywhere else.
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This is the key part for me too, I think a loan playing week in, week out is important for strikers especially at top clubs. Welbeck really should have gone on loan again. I wouldn't send Wilson out this season or not until January anyway. For now just breaking through he is better off here with our training and getting used to first team football our way. Then next season or January when he is in the swing of things as a senior player and needs the match time that he just won't be offered with Rooney and RvP he should be sent on loan to bag his 15+ goals and come back here as a starter. It is another reason why we really should keep hold of Welbeck so we can send Wilo out on loan.
Loans were Leicester, Watford and Wigan
But i agree 100% with you that he must stay with us because he looks ready, can learn a lot from Rooney & Van Persie and loans don't tell us everything like with Cleverley
give him the no.9 Shirt, his class is obvious. The next big thing!
I thought the same, cracking effort! Shame he didn't score from it or the header which looked like a sitter. Not long time ago he mentioned he wiould be working on headed goals. It would be great if he added it to his game. His running with the ball was also great, so direct..
Tbf, they were terrific textbook efforts and sadly the keeper was equally up to them. Don't think he could have done much better there.
That would be great, he doesn't have the strength to challenge for headers just yet but he can circumvent that with intelligent movement of the ball. I remember Rooney struggled with the headed goals aspect and had only scored 1 goal or something along those lines before he started to train on that aspect vigorously. In the 09/10 season he scored plenty of headed goals and even had a run of 5 games or so when he scored consecutive headed goals. Memory is a bit cloudy on those stats above but he came leaps and bounds with his heading and it was a genuine surprise for me. Showed that you don't just need to be a Drogba/CR7 type of player to be prolific in the air and you can do so with intelligent movement coupled with good heading technique.
Yeah, both his efforts on goal were really good and the keeper made fantastic saves unfortunately. As for his heading, I don't know much about it, but I'm sure Nicky Butt said in that Giggs biography program that Wilson had the best standing jump he'd ever seen
I wonder if LVG has noted his pace and therefore might use him up top a bit more. He could certainly have an effect unlike our other strikers.
Welbeck offers that too
Ya but feck all goals. Wilson on the other hand seems like a natural born goalscorer.
His standing jump is unreal, very natural like Ronaldo's.
Wilson will put the ball in the back of the net.
Wilson's instinct inside the box and finishing already look better than Welbeck's with no real first team experience. Welbeck is a very difficult player because as a striker he doesn't score enough goals and out wide he doesn't create enough chances. If only he had the composure and natural ability to finish he would be so much better. I don't know what's wrong with him, he beats 3 players with a run from midfield than his composure totally breaks as he gets closer to the box and trips over his feet or slips before he even gets the chance to shoot.
If Welbeck goes I think it's because van Gaal has chosen that the effort is better spent on Wilson if we want a young player to become a starter at this club.
If Welbeck goes I think it's because van Gaal has chosen that the effort is better spent on Wilson if we want a young player to become a starter at this club.
Should be careful not to get carried away with this one though as he looks far from as mature physically as for example Rooney did at that age. Is he ready to play senior football at top level, PL or in the Championship? Wouldn't want him to start picking up injuries early on, training too hard or by being bullied by defenders pretty much twice his size. I Think it's better to keep him around and ease him into the first team once he's ready like we did with Januzaj, problem is we're so stocked in attack. Even if both Welbeck and Hernandez moved there'd still be Rooney, Van Persie, Di maria, Januzaj etc.
I think physically he's fine. Very lean certainly, but he's tall and doesn't seem weak. Rooney doesn't and didn't have a typical build, he was always a weirdly built and powerful kid and strikers don't need to be like that to succeed. Hernandez was smaller than Wilson when we first got him and he did fine
Not sure why so many people willing to sacrifice Welbeck for Wilson.We can certainly do with both in the near future especially considering Hernandez isn't better than both of them and RVP is 31.I see Welbeck as a type of supporting striker who will combine well with Wilson like Ashley Fletcher did in the U18s (irrelevant but I would love if we can get the latter to the first team as well if he develops well)
So a Dembele, kind of. The Spurs one.
Gonna be pretty fecking awesome for the lad to be learning off of Falcao, RVP and Rooney now.
4th striker at the club now.
Should atleast get on the bench.
Should atleast get on the bench.
sad with the departures of welbeck and hernandez but signing falcao and promoting wilson is a very good move indeed.
Great for young James. Should see more first team action now.
You'd hope that but i'm far from convinced that he will. 2 of Rooney, RvP and Falcao will still have to be out pretty much for Wilson to get any game time. His chances To start in the FA cup may have improved a bit though.
If RVP is really having an op which will keep him out for 3-4 months then his chances of playing time skyrocket. Especially given Rooney can play wide left or even drop back to midfield, which I think is actually going to happen sooner or later despite my personal scepticism of his aptitude in the role.
Yes, that is true but what if he doesn't? And once Robin comes back will Falcao stay permanently? Unless we unload one of RvP Rooney or Falcao after this season he'll be pretty much cemented as 3rd choice striker wether or not Rooney moves into a new position. It's not too unlikely that this could lead to Wilson taking the same route as Welbeck after a few years if he's playing only sporadically.
And on Rooney, playing him as a CAM or wide striker will not benefit him or the team IMO as he's not better than Mata or perhaps even Welbeck in those roles so we'd just be shoehorning once again.
Last week he had Chicharito and Welbeck to compete to.Now he has Radamel freaking Falcao.Congrats Ed to make life much harder for one of our most promising youngster came through in recent years.
It was always going to be hard for him to start many games without Europe and now without the capital one cup. He can get minutes off the bench. One of RVP, Rooney, Mata, and Falcao will always be on the bench. So that makes it Lindegaard, Januzaj, star player, CM sub, def sub, and another defender on the bench. That leaves a spot open for Wilson as the 7th player on the bench. He'll be competing with Young and Valencia for that final spot on the bench.
Last week he was 5th choice striker competing against two younger lads... now he is 4th choice competing with 3 players pushing 30. Yes, well done Ed...
If we want to moan let moan about Hernandez and Welbeck getting a start aead of him against MK Dons only for them to leave a week later.
If we want to moan let moan about Hernandez and Welbeck getting a start aead of him against MK Dons only for them to leave a week later.
Actually thought WIlson should have started ahead of Hernandez against MK Dons tbh.
Rooney, Falcao, RVP all of them have injury issues.
His chances to get on the bench and get sub minutes increased. As a starter dunno. Depends on how he does, i guess.
His chances to get on the bench and get sub minutes increased. As a starter dunno. Depends on how he does, i guess.
If I was Wilson i'd have pushed for a loan move. Unless he's the next Shearer I don't see him getting his chances here. History is very much against him as a home grown forward at United. There's better odds on Pogba re-signing than Wilson making it at OT and thats the very harsh reality of his position. And don't get me wrong, I rate the kid, I really hope he breaks the cycle, delivers on his potential and becomes a lifer at OT.
Great news for him moving upto 4th choice. Seems a natural, scores all types of goals, can go past people, pacey... just what we need really.
Excited to watch him develop.
Excited to watch him develop.
If he has half as many chances as Welbeck got then he will undoubtedly make it here.
1 striker is on loan, 1 is injury prone and having an operation, the other is inconsistent. Wilson will get games, maybe not this year but he could always go on loan in January if necessary.
He's gone from 5th choice to 4th choice which is an improvement for him but I reckon for this season all it means is that he will get included in more squads. LVG is going to have to rotate between RVP, Rooney and Falcao to keep them all happy and whoever doesn't make the starting line up is guaranteed to come on as an impact sub at some stage.
He just has to impress off the bench and get used to the speed of the PL. Try to work on every little thing. He has no pressure to score as Falcao, Rooney, and RVP are expected to produce, not him.
Lack of fixture congestion doesn't help on the game time front for the likes of Wilson.
He isn't really ready to be a starter yet. So more bench minutes is good for him right now.
Actually given our terribly reduced fixture list he was going too find it tough to start anyway.
Also, Pretty sure atleast one of RVP, Falcao, Rooney won't be there next season.
I think he's in a great position, he'll get to learn from 3 very dynamic strikers.
Promising youngster or not, a club that wants to have any chance to be top 4 does not have an untested 19 year old striker leading their line. Is he up there in terms of Ronaldo type talent? No, I don't think so. And we didn't ask Ronaldo to be our main man at his age.
Players need time to develop. Wilson will get that. With Welbeck and Chich gone, it's actually easier for him to get into the squad now.
He'd be better off on loan even to a championship team than get 5 mins here and there. His game time is mostly dependent on other players being injured, much like a second choice keeper. He needs to be playing regularly.