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James Rodriguez - should we go for him?

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    Votes: 565 48.4%
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What? All it will mean is we lie to the press, which we always do.

They've clearly all been given the same line by someone at the club.


I know that. Which is why should take this briefing with a massive pinch of salt anyway.
 
This thread is probably worth locking until someone from Onda Cero Sport, SER or Castles wade in. Everything about James has been done to death now.
Whats the point in locking the thread? That's what they do on Rawk

Castles says we want Joe Hart and Aguero, I doubt he knows anything anymore
 
Whats the point in locking the thread? That's what they do on Rawk

Castles says we want Joe Hart and Aguero, I doubt he knows anything anymore


Castles is probably the only one knows considering he's Mendes' & Joses mouthpiece.

Also, I'm sure we do want Aguero. It's not up to us though is it?
 
Which player his style of play and game closest to? Past or present?

Left-footed Beckham perhaps? At least that's who I've been thinking of, when I was remembering James playing on the right of the 4-4-2 under Ancelotti. Positionally they are obviously different, but they share traits IMO.
 
Well then this isn't an acid test lol. You can't use a clear club briefing as an acid test.


Well I think it's a pretty good indication that we shouldn't believe anything English journalists say. Not that I do now anyway.
 
It's just boring now. Like with every transfer. The discussion just keeps repeating itself after every few pages.

Unfortunately these transfers tend to drag. I'd be pleasantly surprised if the transfer is actually announced on Sunday. We don't even know if we even actually want him, I'm sure there'll be a few twists and turns yet but as always it drags out over a long period of time.
 
Unfortunately these transfers tend to drag. I'd be pleasantly surprised if the transfer is actually announced on Sunday. We don't even know if we even actually want him, I'm sure there'll be a few twists and turns yet but as always it drags out over a long period of time.


Aye I don't mind a good transfer saga. It's just this thread is mostly doom and gloom.
 
There's too much smoke. Graham Hunter, Ballague, couple of Colombian media and the Spanish media all say that the only Unknown thing is when this is going to be announced.

And suddenly all the English journos end up saying we aren't interested? Yeah I don't buy that

Reminds me of a few transfers (zlatan?) when foreign journos confirmed it and English ones reckoned he was to join Bayern or MLS
 
Well I think it's a pretty good indication that we shouldn't believe anything English journalists say. Not that I do now anyway.
Then don't? An instance of the press being briefed isn't really the time to decide if they're worth listening to or not. Their actual scoops are what you need to test them on.
 
Mourinho does not have an attacking plan, He depends on freedom and individual quality, dont expect to play like juventus here. We are not organised in attack for unpredictability in this league.

Without pace counter attack has no meaning because attacking transition should be faster than a defensive transition.

I don't expect us to play like Juve, nor would i want us to. The point i was making was that without being blessed with numerous pacy players, Juve stiill managed to nullify Monaco's pace. Yet, ironically it was the speed of Juve's passing in the final third (not their players) that undid Monaco's defence. Pace within a team is important, but nowhere near as important as the speed of thought or the speed of passing. That is where we fall down in my view, our play is far too pedestrian and predictable at times. We simply need to deliver the ball quicker and with more quality to better utilize the pace we already have. Adding even more pace won't solve that problem, but better service certainly could.
 
Then don't? An instance of the press being briefed isn't really the time to decide if they're worth listening to or not. Their actual scoops are what you need to test them on.


Yet they don't have any scoops when it comes to United. Over past 6-7 years all of our transfers were broke outside England apart from Shniederlin, Mata and Fellaini and Moyes' tenure.


Edit: Sorry maybe not 6-7 years but certainly since SAF retired.
 
He snubbed Chelsea so United can still pursue someone else... :lol:

Media narration almost on Indykaila level right now.
 
Yet they don't have any scoops when it comes to United. Over past 6-7 years all of our transfers were broke outside England apart from Shniederlin, Mata and Fellaini and Moyes' tenure.
Not disagreeing there. Just this briefing isn't worth what you are saying it is.
 
Yet they don't have any scoops when it comes to United. Over past 6-7 years all of our transfers were broke outside England apart from Shniederlin, Mata and Fellaini and Moyes' tenure.

I remember Bailly signing news has first come from - imagine it - Balague :lol:
 
Not disagreeing there. Just this briefing isn't worth what you are saying it is.


Okay mate. Maybe, I had just got ahead of myself. I take that on board. :)
 
Pace is of course useful. I just think it is almost a hindrance to the actual quality of English football, but I guess that's another discussion. I think there is no more common way to disguise technical and tactical deficiencies than just speeding up the game in order to increase the unpredictability of the game.

Back to James, he's a fantastic talent. I'm one who thinks Griezmann is a bit overrated personally, and think James under the right conditions has the ability to do at least as well. I have no burning desire for us to sign him, but I won't be as disappointed as many here if we did.

As for his attitude and ethic, I believe a Colombian raised kid can find it within himself to work at least as hard as the PlayStation generation who had Range Rovers at 18.

Spot on mate. A well reasoned and objective summary, nicely done! :cool:
 
This is the same guy that said Pogba was off to Madrid...

Can you show me when Ducker said he was off to Madrid? Closest I could find was this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...aul-pogba-pursuit-under-threat-from-real-mad/

He doesn't say anything like that in the article though.

You said they don't have an interest, unless United's briefed them. The second part of the statement would have been my answer.

You said "the same could be said about English Journalists" when I said Marca is not credible, and that AS didn't say United wanted James.

I argued that they could have been briefed by the club (in which case they would be credible) - and they wouldn't have a vested interest to kill a rumour.

Going by the recent flurry of established journalists saying United aren't interested, it looks like the press have been briefed.
 
I just asked about his workrate and defense like a page back and someone told me he puts a shift in and is good defensively. Which is true?

I do not watch him play - but was looking in a couple of Real Madrid forums when a transfer to Bayern was "possible" some weeks ago. And that was what they complained about him most.
 
I think we need 2 attacking players but I would not go for James because I think this squad lacks pace so I think we should be looking at 2 players who can get u goals but also have pace and I don't think James has a lot of pace. The only players we have with some pace are Miki, Martial, Rashford and Lingard and he is not good enough anyway how he plays for us is a joke but that's another subject.
You and I may agree on pacy players, but we are a long way away from agreeing on the proper use of punctuation.

Also, although pace is important, we need technical players who can pass and move and contribute with long distance shooting.
 
I remember Bailly signing news has first come from - imagine it - Balague :lol:
Was it though? I thought the first links were some local Spanish source and then Balague just copied what was said. Similar to how James is being linked to United tbf.
 
You said "the same could be said about English Journalists" when I said Marca is not credible, and that AS didn't say United wanted James.

I argued that they could have been briefed by the club (in which case they would be credible) - and they wouldn't have a vested interest to kill a rumour.

Going by the recent flurry of established journalists saying United aren't interested, it looks like the press have been briefed.

What I was meaning that if Spanish journalists are trying to market James name, English journalists very possibly could be trying to counter them. United's official trying to brief the journalists is also an available option for them spreading news that we're not interesting in James.
 
Was it though? I thought the first links were some local Spanish source and then Balague just copied what was said. Similar to how James is being linked to United tbf.
It broke on Spanish radio.
 
Was it though? I thought the first links were some local Spanish source and then Balague just copied what was said. Similar to how James is being linked to United tbf.

But Balague has been the first reliable source ( if we considered him reliable ) to link us to him. I remember at this time and due to him continuously before denying Jose will manage us, didn't take his news seriously until Di Marzio confirmed it.

Speaking about Di Marzio, we need the man to speak :D
 
I don't expect us to play like Juve, nor would i want us to. The point i was making was that without being blessed with numerous pacy players, Juve stiill managed to nullify Monaco's pace. Yet, ironically it was the speed of Juve's passing in the final third (not their players) that undid Monaco's defence. Pace within a team is important, but nowhere near as important as the speed of thought or the speed of passing. That is where we fall down in my view, our play is far too pedestrian and predictable at times. We simply need to deliver the ball quicker and with more quality to better utilize the pace we already have. Adding even more pace won't solve that problem, but better service certainly could.

This is a example of two teams playing to attack and score in a knockout game, Epl has bus parking defenses in the league who play to get a draw and not conceed a goal , so one is attacking and one is defensive specially against teams who hold so much of the ball and win it back quickly , Something like barcelona and juventus second leg, its very difficult to play quickly ,or you risk loosing the ball numerous times in attack and get countered ,so you are forced to hold so much of the ball passing sideways and backwards or loose the posesion and get countered .

Consistancy is key to win the epl and by consistancy means consistancy to win 3 points against smaller teams in the epl along with the big ones, but there are also 6 top teams in this league now then under fergie which was less competitve so holding the ball also becomes necessary against top 6.

There was a reason sir alex never had a problem against bus parking defenses because he always played direct and counter attacking football with pace and directness . He had very direct and pacey players to get in behind defenses in a counter attack , in nani's ronaldo's park's rooney's antonio valencia withhigh work rate who could also contribute defensively,along with quick passing which came from scholes.

Epl is an unforgiving league, when oppositions parks the bus even quick passing does not help because thereis lack of timeand space both to score a goal , thats where pace is super handy to counter attack.
 
Can you show me when Ducker said he was off to Madrid? Closest I could find was this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...aul-pogba-pursuit-under-threat-from-real-mad/

He doesn't say anything like that in the article though.



You said "the same could be said about English Journalists" when I said Marca is not credible, and that AS didn't say United wanted James.

I argued that they could have been briefed by the club (in which case they would be credible) - and they wouldn't have a vested interest to kill a rumour.

Going by the recent flurry of established journalists saying United aren't interested, it looks like the press have been briefed.

I thought it was James Ducker but think I got confused. It was Jamie Jackson.. Which now when I try to find the tweet seems it's been deleted. But that doesn't surprise me as journalists seem to do it every Summer when they get it wrong.
 
I do not watch him play - but was looking in a couple of Real Madrid forums when a transfer to Bayern was "possible" some weeks ago. And that was what they complained about him most.
Oh ok, I see.

Is there anyone else who've seen a lot of him who can clarify?
 
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