James Rodriguez | joins Bayern Munich | 2 year loan

James Rodriguez - should we go for him?

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    Votes: 404 34.6%
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    Votes: 565 48.4%
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Those who've actually watched him consistently.

What can he do that Miki/Mata can't do? (on paper I mean)

Score more goals. Take corners, freekicks and a good crosser of the ball. Very creative with his passing. Quicker than Mata but not Mkhitaryan. Mourinho could turn him into a really good player.
 


Not sure how a highlights package can be so underwhelming. When you have the star sliding to keep a ball in play as a piece of skill, you know he offers nothing really that any other half skilful player does.

If we could get a RM cast off, would prefer Isco.


Since when videos tell anything good or bad ? I can bring a video that makes Fellaini appears as a the best DMF in the world, but we know he's not.
 
The problem is, for all his quality, he won't solve the problems we have right now. We don't have a reliable winger for either side and are lacking CFs. Buying another 10, even if he is a small upgrade, doesn't make much sense. Unless he's really cheap and we move on Miki or Mata, I guess.

Much bigger priorities imo.


Yeah there is positions which need to be prioritised no doubt but my point was I can't believe there's people on here saying he wouldn't improve our attack or he's plainly not a good player or he's no better than what we have already :rolleyes:
 
I like the way he sets up a lot of counter attacks by turning and releasing the ball without dilly dallying around the fecking place. I can see Jose really liking that. Reminds me a bit of Sneijder to be honest with you. Very good on the ball. Amazing vision. Fantastic shot and set piece ability.

For the right price why the feck not?
 
Surely won't happen.

Would mean Griezmann mustn't be a goer, would add another number 10 to the pile, and would cost a ridiculous figure, having been one of Madrid's "statement" buys a few years ago.

And a bit too close to home after the last big money south American we brought from Real!
 
He creates and scores, and at the moment when Pogba isn't in the side we don't look like creating much at all. We also don't have to play with wingers.

That's fair. If we were switching to a diamond or a wing-back system where he could play as 2nd striker it would make more sense.

If that is the case though, Griezman should be our priority target. Signing James would suggest we've given up on that even before it's known if we are in the cl next year.
 
Surely won't happen.

Would mean Griezmann mustn't be a goer, would add another number 10 to the pile, and would cost a ridiculous figure, having been one of Madrid's "statement" buys a few years ago.

And a bit too close to home after the last big money south American we brought from Real!


Him and James are two different players. We would buy both imo.
 
Him and James are two different players. We would buy both imo.

Aren't they both central attacking mid/support striker players? Or do you think we'd go with Griezmann up front? If we go out wide with one of them i'd worry there would be even less threat from that area than there is now
 
I like the way he sets up a lot of counter attacks by turning and releasing the ball without dilly dallying around the fecking place. I can see Jose really liking that. Reminds me a bit of Sneijder to be honest with you. Very good on the ball. Amazing vision. Fantastic shot and set piece ability.

For the right price why the feck not?

Exactly, especially the right place thing. If Madrid asked for 60m or more then no thanks, if less than that he'll be great addition to the attack.
 
That's fair. If we were switching to a diamond or a wing-back system where he could play as 2nd striker it would make more sense.

If that is the case though, Griezman should be our priority target. Signing James would suggest we've given up on that even before it's known if we are in the cl next year.

Id argue we need both. Instead of James though someone like Bernado Silva or Isco would be great.
 
Aren't they both central attacking mid/support striker players? Or do you think we'd go with Griezmann up front? If we go out wide with one of them i'd worry there would be even less threat from that area than there is now


James is a pure number 10 attacking midfielder for me. I'd expect James to play a hell of a lot deeper than Griezmann. Griezmann's primary duty is to score goals as a striker or a support striker.
 
Ander Herrera who's 'average in his defensive play at best' against a POTY.

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Be quiet!

Useless stats that don't tell the entire picture of him as a player

For example Herrera is somebody who is prone to losing the ball, while it is damn near impossible to take the ball from Kante. You don't want your deepest midfield player losing the ball when under pressure. That alone makes Herrera's defence average at best. The many fouls he gives away is another aspect which is bad in his game.

Don't get me wrong he is not a bad player but not nearly as good as some on here rate him. Next to Carrick, easily the most overrated player in the squad atm.

Also lets end discussing Herrera in here because this is a james thread
 
If this is true, then Jose obviously hasn't learnt, in terms of what formation we're best in and the formation that gets the best out of our players, which, to me, is a 433. I say that because this rumour would suggest Mourinho moving to a 4231.

Having said that, we could still play a 433, and play Rodriguez as a roaming winger - similar to how Isco plays for Madrid. Give him a free role, if you like. That said, we have Mata who does that, and does it very well, in my opinion.

All in all, I don't think we'd benefit from getting Rodriguez. He's not that much of an upgrade of the 10's we've got so far, if at all.
 
Maybe Jose just likes James better than your Silvas etc. Obviously Silva is cracking player but different systems need different players and that. I think James is way more direct than Silva. Maybe it's exactly what Jose wants?
 
I like signing national team captains. They often come with that proud, winning and leadership mindset.

In pure footballing terms, it looks like a lot of people here need to actually watch Rodriguez. He is a very talented player capable of improving United. I know Mata is popular here but honestly, James will be an upgrade on Mata and even Mikhi. He can play as an attacking midfielder and a winger. He is not so quick but he has a well developed footballing brain, good scoring instinct, he packs good long range shots and he can be dangerous with set pieces.

If u ask me, I would say, sell off Rooney, bring in Griezmann. Sell off Mata, bring in James. Buy an out and out striker to rotate with Rashford. The difference would be crystal clear.
 
Well we would have Pogba who will probably want number 10, is with Adidas and is a lot more marketable than James.
 
James is a pure number 10 attacking midfielder for me. I'd expect James to play a hell of a lot deeper than Griezmann. Griezmann's primary duty is to score goals as a striker or a support striker.

Can you imagine Griezmann as a main striker in a Jose team?
Let alone with James and Pogba behind him?

That'd need some sort of Roy Keane/Robson/Scholes master hybrid all in one to play behind!
 
Definitely not keen on this one, hope it's media nonsense
 
Bringing James will make sure Jose's going for 4-2-3-1, with James as number 10, Pogba as number 8 and we'll need a number 6 player. If we bring Griezmann we can either play him as a number 9 with Mata or Mikhi on the right or playing Griezmann as a RW himself and Rashford as a striker.

We don't know Jose mind regarding the other attacking options. Do he want to stick with Rashford as our main striker next season ? or want Griezmann to be the striker.

Mata and Mikhi are not in their best on the right flank but since Jose gives the RW freedom to join the midfield and leaving free space for Valencia to go back and forth on the right flank, this issue can somewhat be solved.

We'll need an absolute beast of DMF to play behind Pogba in 4-2-3-1, also I still believes 4-3-3 is better for him.
 
Someone posted earlier in the thread that he would be at least as good as Alexis Sanchez were he to come to the Prem. As someone who is massively against the idea of this transfer and doesn't really rate him at all, I scoffed at this and shuffled off to find some statistics to belittle this comment.

Then I found this:

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Am I underestimating him? Could he be one of those players who leaves Madrid and flourishes like Robben or Sneijder? I feel like we need exciting wide players with pace but maybe he could be better than I think of him.
 
Can you imagine Griezmann as a main striker in a Jose team?
Let alone with James and Pogba behind him?

That'd need some sort of Roy Keane/Robson/Scholes master hybrid all in one to play behind!


I can imagine Griezmann playing on the right or left. #9 with James in behind, Pogba as number 8 in midfield 2. Points

Anyway if we're like looking to challenge for Champions League and the Premier League, we need a squad with plenty of quality.

As I said for a right price I'd definitely have him.
 
James and Lukaku tick all the boxes for being marketable, available at the right price and keeping Mendes and Raiola happy. I hope we've got some less obvious targets and some kind of plan for our attack.
 
In 4-2-3-1 I can see Pogba-Herrera/new CM, Rashford/Martial-James/Mata-Miki/Lingard with a new CF signing. I don't think Griezman will come if James is here.
 
Someone posted earlier in the thread that he would be at least as good as Alexis Sanchez were he to come to the Prem. As someone who is massively against the idea of this transfer and doesn't really rate him at all, I scoffed at this and shuffled off to find some statistics to belittle this comment.

Then I found this:

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Am I underestimating him? Could he be one of those players who leaves Madrid and flourishes like Robben or Sneijder? I feel like we need exciting wide players with pace but maybe he could be better than I think of him.

I'm not surprised. He's got really good numbers this season, despite not playing a lot. Another thing is, he hasn't been bad at Real Madrid. Zidane just doesn't play him that's all. He's a cracking player.
 
He had a good World Cup. But don't know what he's done of note since (hard to get headlines when you have to serve Ronaldo though)

I'd prefer other players over him but would be willing to give him a chance if the reports were true
 
I can imagine Griezmann playing on the right or left. #9 with James in behind, Pogba as number 8 in midfield 2. Points

Anyway if we're like looking to challenge for Champions League and the Premier League, we need a squad with plenty of quality.

As I said for a right price I'd definitely have him.

One things for certain, we'll spend a lot, and it'll be exciting.

Really hope we can't possibly have such a pathetically low shots to goals ratio again though.

I went up 9 times, and saw 2 wins.

2/9 at Old Trafford!

Before this season, I've probably done 40odd games and seen 30 wins! Moyes managed to ruck my very good record up with at least 4 losses in his season
 
I'm not surprised. He's got really good numbers this season, despite not playing a lot. Another thing is, he hasn't been bad at Real Madrid. Zidane just doesn't play him that's all. He's a cracking player.

He doesn't have a chance there with Modric and Kroos in midfield, they don't play number 10 players as Casemiro is needed to give the midfield stability, but has been good any time he enters the field.
 
James in the 10 with Micky and Tony in the wider roles.

He's quite welcome to the 10 shirt.

This is sooo much like the Vidal stories :drool:
 
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