So we are getting another mata really.
I hope he can blog.
I hope he can blog.
James Rodriguez| Is considering his options
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I always thought Madrid blew their load early on him. Sure he had a nice world cup and was a promising player but they really went for the hype there. No wonder they are regretting it now.
Players that would want to prove they can play for Bayern, Real, Barca?
I see many mention Isco instead, but as far as i know, both are attacking midfielder/10's, or am i wrong?
If so, how were these used during Mourinho's spell at Madrid?
Who played most, where did they play, how did they perform, etc.?
If so, how were these used during Mourinho's spell at Madrid?
Who played most, where did they play, how did they perform, etc.?
Similar type of player to Mata. Stronger on the ball but not the type to take on players therefore playing him on the wings would be quite pointless as we have seen with Mata.
If we play him as a natural 10 then he would be fantastic. He has great vision, can create space and can also finish himself. He was brilliant in his first season at Madrid, but this season he hasn't produced at the same level but has still shown glimpses of quality, if we could get him at a reduced price, anything under 45m then we should definitely go for it.
If we play him as a natural 10 then he would be fantastic. He has great vision, can create space and can also finish himself. He was brilliant in his first season at Madrid, but this season he hasn't produced at the same level but has still shown glimpses of quality, if we could get him at a reduced price, anything under 45m then we should definitely go for it.
You mean Couti-I keep trying ridiculous amount of long shots until I score one then suddenly I'm a world class player-nho?
By the way,
- Isco 14/15: 53 Chances created | 4 Goals | 9 Assists
- Isco 15/present: 39 Chances created | 2 Goals | 7 Assists
- James 14/15: 77 Chances created | 13 Goals | 13 Assists
- James 15/present: 45 Chances created | 5 Goals | 6 Assists
Yes, James had a pretty mediocre season thus far, but he is still a very, very good player and easily better than any options that we have in our squad here. People seem to have short-term memories here, whenever a player is in a bad patch of form suddenly his performances (no matter how good) prior to that are completely forgotten.
Do you also think James is better than Iniesta?
Exactly.
They did the same with Ozil and Di Maria.
He's definitely for sale.
Dont want him here though.
I'd rather we moved towards pacey, athletic players.
Excellent player, would love him here.
Teams could always use some guile.
Spot on.
Would absolutely love him here, he is already far better than any no 10 we got and still got plenty room for improvement. Great finisher, great crosser, good kicktaker, very good dribbler and also a good creator.
He's a bit lazy for Mourinho.
Sadly James lacks severe pace and mobility. Other than that he's class but we really need athletic players.
For the wide areas and at striker, yes, but to get the best out of a player like Rodriguez you play him through the middle. The added advantage is that he is stronger on the ball than Mata but the deal should be cut-price which I doubt Woodward would be able to seal.
Since when did we become the rubbish dump for big names...
That much stronger ? I've seen dive all around at Monaco and for Real Madrid.
2016s di maria.
Just sign greizmann. Stop dicking about with real madrid rejects. Its boring.
Just sign greizmann. Stop dicking about with real madrid rejects. Its boring.
I'd be up for signing him at a reduced price, but I wouldn't want us to pursue him at all costs.
At least Di Maria has just won the Champions League and was MOTM in that game. Rodriguez has just plain flopped.
To the stats: in how many games?
Sometimes you need to judge by what you can see not what the stats say. Isco is the more dynamic and technical player and plays a deeper role than James. James playes higher up and is more likely to deliver the final ball
IMO Isco is the more creative player. I'm sure James stats in terms of chances created, goals and assists are better than someone like Iniesta but we all would agree iniesta is the more creative player.
Good player but Ranieri was fed up with his attitude, he wasn't training hard enough and he wasn't always giving everything during some games.
Different team, different tactics, different positions, not comparable at all.
Isco:
2014/15 - 26 starts, 8 substitute appearances. 2341 minutes.
2015/16 - 18 starts, 7 substitute appearances. 1493 minutes.
James:
2014/15 - 29 starts, 0 substitute appearances. 2290 minutes
2015//16 - 13 starts, 6 substitutes appearances. 1107 minutes.
I watch quite a bit of Real Madrid games and IMO Isco is the more consistent player while James is more capable of coming up with magical moments. Both had been playing well below their standards this season though, but I personally think that we need more match winners, someone that can pull something miraculous out of nothing.
I'd definitely take him but it's fine time Madrid feck off getting good fees for toys they've grown tired of. If I trade a game in I get less back than what I paid for it brand new. Knock 30 million off and it's a deal.
Better than what we have and in the 10 position as he played for Columbia during the World Cup I'd take him for sure. Mata, Herrera and Rooney are not the future in that role and we have no one else. I'd prefer him over Isco myself, but Isco is also a fantastic player on form. Turns 25 in the summer so a great age. Probably bollocks story anyway but a definite yes for me even at 60m quid.
Ross Barkley would be the better buy IMO. He has been very productive in the Premier League this year and we know that he can cope with the physical demands, can James? Ross is Scouse so won't even have to move house if he doesn't want to, no chance of him not settling.
Both go missing too often but come up with special moments. It is worth noting that Barkley has a couple more years of improvement on James, however.
Both go missing too often but come up with special moments. It is worth noting that Barkley has a couple more years of improvement on James, however.
I think the golden boot at the WC and hype massively went to his head and thought he made it. I would much prefer Isco.
Overrated in my opinion. Scores some nice long shots every once in a while but we require more in our team. We need someone who works hard and can get up and down the pitch. James is the luxury overpaid player we do not need.
Goalscoring statistics are not useful when you are trying to compare someone like Isco to James. James v Mata in terms of goalscoring/assist statistics would be pretty useful as that is primarily what their game is about but Isco is a genuine playmaker who controls the flow of a game in the mould of a David Silva/Iniesta. These types of players are worth their weight in gold because they can transform a teams entire style of play as they have an innate understanding of how to constantly get on the ball, drive with the ball, pick up pockets of space time and time again.. and make the team tick. James probably has superior statistics to anything Zidane produced but it is a moot point.. he isn't the better player.
Right now United need more of an Isco, even someone like Barkley would be more useful to us than a James as the lad tries to dictate the tempo of a game and is much more dynamic. Aside from Martial, we don't have many dynamic players within the side who can transform defence into attack by virtue of their own ability. Mata/Rooney are heavily reliant on everyone around them.. and even then can't perform as they're not good enough.
James could definitely perform where he feels the love and the team set up is right, but he isn't the type of player who would come in and transform out style of play and make us world beaters again. David Silva at his best was able to make Man City unplayable at times, even in poor form he has this way of just controlling the game for them and giving them a style of play... we are in desperate need of someone like that. Since Scholes left, we haven't really had someone who controls how we play.
People need to stop trying to compare him to Di Maria in this thread.
Di Maria is a much better player than James Rodgriguez.
Di Maria is a much better player than James Rodgriguez.
No for me.
They are really different, Di Maria is more wasteful, they have the same vision and dribbling abilities, James has a better shot and is tidier but Di Maria has a stronger work ethic.
Comes across as a grounded fella. I wouldn't put that on him.
We already have Juan.
Very true. But di maria didn't want to be a united player and i wouldn't be surprised if james does either.
It's a yes from me, if Jose wants him
Considering how rated Everton players are in here you start wondering how they don't manage to win the treble every year
Really? Everything I've seen/read is pretty contrary to that.
Real live in cloud cuckoo land.
If he was banging the goals in and turning in man of the match performances every week then fair enough. But they will be lucky to get half that figure for an unwanted, underperforming superstar.