James Rodriguez| Is considering his options

DWelbz19 said:
Do you think Isco will be moving soon as well? He doesn't really seem to fit Zidane's ideal formation either.
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He doesn't, but looks like he's staying. He said he's happy to stay, work hard and fight for a place in the team. He'll be the first CM of the bench (if we don't get Pogba), which means plenty of minutes for him next season. We'll play 60 games minimum.
 
Isn't he one of those players that got a big move on the back of a good International Tournament but then didn't really kick on? Like Poborsky, etc.
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
Oh, why are Real Madrid now looking to move him on then?
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He no longer fits in the system, Zidane is playing with 3 CMs and he is not a CM.
His first season he scored 17 and assisted 16 and was one of their better players, hardly not kicking on. Add to that he had a great season at Monaco before the World Cup and was always lined up for a big move before the World Cup
Add the off field issues, and Real needing a new toy (Pogba) looks like he will be the fall guy.
Unless you believe Di Maria and Ozil were sold for not being good enough
 
Nah. Let Madrid first buy pogba then when they try and offlioad him we hardball them into selling low or they have an expensive player rotting away. Either way when they try and sell him it wont be more than 35 million pounds. He isn't worth anymore.

I don't rate him above de bruyne to be honest and they are very similar players. he only thing I really like about him is his goalscoring ability and setpieces. Other than that he is mata in a few years.
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
Isn't he one of those players that got a big move on the back of a good International Tournament but then didn't really kick on? Like Poborsky, etc.
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ive never really understood why madrid paid that much for him, reminded me of the Denilson deal.

But i liked Poborsky , thought he was really good, we just had Beckham who was better!
 
kenny19 said:
Nah. Let Madrid first buy pogba then when they try and offlioad him we hardball them into selling low or they have an expensive player rotting away. Either way when they try and sell him it wont be more than 35 million pounds. He isn't worth anymore.

I don't rate him above de bruyne to be honest and they are very similar players. he only thing I really like about him is his goalscoring ability and setpieces. Other than that he is mata in a few years.
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What? How on earth have you arrived at either of these conclusions? Not even close.
 
How tough is he? Not being facetious, but there are players who do well in La Liga that will just never do well in England due to crappy pitches, horrible weather and generally tougher physicality. He looks solid, not a waif like Di Maria, but does he play tough? Is he more like Sanchez?

(Ozil is the exception, he somehow manages to not need to touch anyone to be incredibly effective)
 
Sign players we actually need, not just pay huge money to accommodate whatever client Mendes has available.

As soon as Mourinho signed we were instantly linked with the likes of Garay, Gomes and James, so predictable.
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
Oh, why are Real Madrid now looking to move him on then?
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There's plenty of good players Madrid have decided to sell just to sign someone even bigger... Sneijder, Robben, Di Maria, Makelele etc and now probably Rodriguez

He just doesn't seem to fit into their formation and has competition with the likes of Bale, Kroos and Modric
 
ManUchosenbosslvg said:
Sign players we actually need, not just pay huge money to accommodate whatever client Mendes has available.

As soon as Mourinho signed we were instantly linked with the likes of Garay, Gomes and James, so predictable.
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Predictable on the part of the journalists sure, we haven't actually signed any of those players though and so far there are no real credible stories that suggest we're trying to either.
 
Attila said:
There's plenty of good players Madrid have decided to sell just to sign someone even bigger... Sneijder, Robben, Di Maria, Makelele etc and now probably Rodriguez

He just doesn't seem to fit into their formation and has competition with the likes of Bale, Kroos and Modric
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Di Maria has really ruined my belief in Madrid wantaways. So the fact that He is South American etc like Di Maria doesnt help. The others who left and were successs were europeans.

Oh and I definitely dont want to help bolster Madrids kitty for Pogba.
 
RedStarUnited said:
Di Maria has really ruined my belief in Madrid wantaways. So the fact that He is South American etc like Di Maria doesnt help. The others who left and were successs were europeans.

Oh and I definitely dont want to help bolster Madrids kitty for Pogba.
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I blame Van Gaals management for the way Di Maria turned out, if we had Mourinho he would have been fine
 
ManUchosenbosslvg said:
Sign players we actually need, not just pay huge money to accommodate whatever client Mendes has available.

As soon as Mourinho signed we were instantly linked with the likes of Garay, Gomes and James, so predictable.
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Linked with - just like we were linked with the entire Netherlands squad after LVG signed
 
Stojan Stamenic said:
He is very slow. If we're buying Mkhitaryan for AMC, we don't need James. Also too slow for RW.
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What is the obsession with pace? James plays best in a counter attacking system where he drives forward with the ball and has runners around him. He's lethal from distance and he doesn't need blistering pace to play the role he plays, he doesn't need to be a presence in the box all that often, he's more of a playmaking #10 who can also cover the right side.

However, I'm not sure that we are in for him given that we are certainly trying for Pogba, and widely expected to sign Ibrahimovic. I cannot see him as a suitable signing alongside them, as well as trying to fit Rooney into the midfield.
 
Stojan Stamenic said:
He is very slow. If we're buying Mkhitaryan for AMC, we don't need James. Also too slow for RW.
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The interest in Mkhitaryan is most likely for RW:


Zlatan
Martial---------James-----Mkhitaryan
X----------X
Shaw------Bailly---Smalling-----Darmian
De-Gea


Midfield 3 with Rooney depending on the game.​
 
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I just don't think he is suitable for Mourinho's style of play. Very lightweight, gets fouled a lot and slows down the attacks. Same problems as Mata...

Just watch his last match on Copa Amerika



Or even his best match on tournament, vs Paraguay



Mkhitaryan offers so much more as a AMC - he is tough, very strong in duels, runs with a ball, starts great counters... James' first touch is better, and nothing else.
 
Stojan Stamenic said:
Last season James got 7 goals and 8 assists, with only 0,7 dribbles per game in Primera, for a team that scored 110 goals in La Liga.
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Not really the worst return considering he only played 1,517 minutes (equivalent to 17 full games) of football.

We're talking 17 Goals and 18 Assists in 46 games last season.
 
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It's quite funny when we turn our noses up at players of James' quality. It's not like we have an abundance of talents at the club just warming the bench!

Although he's saying here and there that he's happy at Madrid, since January/February James made it clear through people close to him that he didn't want to stay at Real as he's overlooked by Zidane because Zidane likes to play with 3 CMs. He's only 24 and he's not going to warm the bench if Zidane doesn't see him as part of his plans which by the look of it, Zidane clearly doesn't.

James isn't a speed merchant but he's isn't as slow as people made him out to be. If he's signed, he'd immediately become our most creative player. He's a sweet left foot and there are very few players who possess a better shooting technique than him. He isn't a grafter but he's no slouch either.

Also it's not just the WC where he played well. He's great at Porto when we'd real interest in him and also at Monaco. His first season at Real was also better than any of our player in the last 3 years.

His situation at Madrid is totally different from Di Maria who wanted an improved deal. James on the other hand, wants to play regular football.

His off the field activities are a bit concern for me though as we've too many young players and having a party boy isn't particularly a good thing for this group of players.
 
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Sparky Rhiwabon said:
Isn't he one of those players that got a big move on the back of a good International Tournament but then didn't really kick on? Like Poborsky, etc.
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He always seemed a tracked player by the big clubs when at Porto that nobody bit the bullet on. I woul dsay going to Monaco contributed to shooting his price up as well as the tournament performance what with them being so cash rich
 
Nytram Shakes said:
ive never really understood why madrid paid that much for him, reminded me of the Denilson deal.

But i liked Poborsky , thought he was really good, we just had Beckham who was better!
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Because Monaco who had him overpaid as well. Agree on Poborsky, he never stood a chance with us and di well after at Lazio for a while. With Giggs/Keane/Scholes/Beckham it was difficult for any signing there, even Veron failed
 
MyOnlySolskjaer said:
The interest in Mkhitaryan is most likely for RW:


Zlatan
Martial---------James-----Mkhitaryan
X----------X
Shaw------Bailly---Smalling-----Darmian
De-Gea


Midfield 3 with Rooney depending on the game.​
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Your last sentence is telling, James is worthless if we play a midfield three.
 
DarkXaero said:
I wish people would stop saying this when it's not true.
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Agree. For a number 10 he has plenty of pace over 5-8 yards in acceleration and is also much better running at players than most of nearly all of our current attacking options even if he was shunted out wide. Although I would be happy if we signed him, more so than say Mata when we signed him who didnt seem right at all for me, Im still not sure he is the right man or we are even interested
 
jesperjaap said:
Agree. For a number 10 he has plenty of pace over 5-8 yards in acceleration and is also much better running at players than most of nearly all of our current attacking options even if he was shunted out wide. Although I would be happy if we signed him, more so than say Mata when we signed him who didnt seem right at all for me, Im still not sure he is the right man or we are even interested
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James doesn't really run at players because he is neither very good at dribbling nor at sprinting.
 
I don't think he's that slow at all. He's sharp on the turn and can run at people. Mkhitaryan isn't blistering quick either tbf. You won't find me complaining if it happened because of this:

Any type of creativity is needed after the shocking football that I had to sit through. Any would do farther more one of the best playmakers in the world.
 
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