I did say if I'm wrong I'm wrong. He's not exactly on for the player of the year though.
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I did say if I'm wrong I'm wrong. He's not exactly on for the player of the year though.
And?! I don't understand this logic. When he played, he was pretty good, though obviously not as good as he'd be if given a run of games. As I've said, he hasn't been starting but it's not because of a lack of talent. As long as we don't chuck him on the wing, and as long as he doesn't come at the expense of Pogba etc, then he'd be great for us. I don't see why you throw down grand opinions after admitting you haven't seen him play much, then simply say "if i'm wrong i'm wrong"...
He would be a Madrid reject. Do not want.
That left foot worth 40 million alone. Even if it means the end of Mata reign. Tee hee.
That left foot worth 40 million alone. Even if it means the end of Mata reign. Tee hee.
That old chestnut again.
So what? Its a fact that Madrid are better than us at the moment, Rodriguez is an able footballer and not wanting to him to just because of a false sense of superiority is daft. Sanchez and Fabregas are Barca rejects they seem to be doing alright. Robben absolutely destroyed Buli week in week out and he was a Real reject. If a player is good enough why does it matter what circumstances made him move?
he got you!It's strange how getting linked with a player of Rodriguez's quality provokes such negativity in some people. Anyone would think our team was brimming with world class players the way some people turn their nose up at good players. It's the same with most players we're linked with too. "Don't want" "Costs too much" and so on. The likes of Rodriguez, Ibrahimovic, and Mkhitaryan would walk in to our team and considering we're out of the CL and our team is on the whole fairly ordinary, we're lucky it's not them turning their noses up at us.
I can't speak for everyone, but my problem with James is the lack of pace. We'll then have Rooney, Mata, James and maybe Ibrahimovic too. There's just no pace there at all
This. I find this strange as well.
Just no....still waiting to see what the hype was about post World Cup
He will be the new poster boy of United. 
Yeah it's gobsmacking really especially when some are saying we ain't seen the best of Schneiderlin yet and he'll be great for United next season and how Fellaini could still do a job for us. James would be a definite upgrade on those two for starters and they do not want???
These are the bare minimum type of players we should be going for to significantly improve our squad.
Just sign him up already!!
These are the bare minimum type of players we should be going for to significantly improve our squad.
Just sign him up already!!
Where the feck were you when he scored 17 goals and assisted a further 18 the previous season, the year after the World Cup? Do you want us to sign Mkhi then?
If he came here I don't think his heart would be in it. Talented player but he doesn't look the kind of guy to work hard and graft when things aren't going smoothly.
He's not good enough to play as CM in 4-3-3, which is how we play and will continue to play under Zidane. James would be good enough for Madrid if we played 4-2-3-1.
Doesn't strike me as a player that will thrive under Mourinho, but then again, I thought the same about Ozil and Lampard but look what they accomplished under his guidance. I think people who say that he isn't a hard worker will be surprised as his midfield performances in Carlo's 442 (when Bale was out) and 433 (with the BBC) saw him bust a lung for the betterment of that team. He unfairly has the 'Youtube player' tag which turns a lot of people off, but he contributes so much more than 'just goals and assists' and will instantly be your best or second best attacking player depending on how Zlatan does.
Of course, it will probably be impossible to convince those who already wrote him off that 'his heart isn't in Manchester' after his first run of tough games doesn't help that his wife has made noises about loving the Madrid lifestyle since his first year there, to go with stories about him loving the nightlife too much. If he can allow Jose and Faria to influence him in this aspect of his life, it probably shouldn't be a problem.
Another thing I'd point out is that he's a victim of his own versatility, a bit like young Rooney but way better in almost everything. He can give you a solid 7.5 or 8/10 performance as the advanced CM in a MF 3 of a 433, as a winger/CM hybrid in 442 or real winger in 433, but he is on another level if played as a #10. Give him the platform to succeed in his preferred position, like what he's been given at Columbia, and he'll be one of the most devastating #10s in Europe. Don't spend that much on him if you're not going to play him in the #10.
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Of course, it will probably be impossible to convince those who already wrote him off that 'his heart isn't in Manchester' after his first run of tough games
doesn't help that his wife has made noises about loving the Madrid lifestyle since his first year there, to go with stories about him loving the nightlife too much. If he can allow Jose and Faria to influence him in this aspect of his life, it probably shouldn't be a problem.Another thing I'd point out is that he's a victim of his own versatility, a bit like young Rooney but way better in almost everything. He can give you a solid 7.5 or 8/10 performance as the advanced CM in a MF 3 of a 433, as a winger/CM hybrid in 442 or real winger in 433, but he is on another level if played as a #10. Give him the platform to succeed in his preferred position, like what he's been given at Columbia, and he'll be one of the most devastating #10s in Europe. Don't spend that much on him if you're not going to play him in the #10.
He will be the new poster boy of United.
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Personally, I don't want him and I'd rather not overpay for a player Madrid desperately want to auction off in order to fund their Pogba purchase.
That's more of an indictment on your lack of knowledge than it is on the player.
take a South American cast off from Madrid who wasn't looking to come here? what could go wrong
Nah.
don't forget the money would be worth it alone for james to take set pieces. amazing corners, accurate from short/long free kicks with pace and bend, doesn't miss pks. its something that needs to be address this summer, i don't want blind or jones taking corners, rooney and his shakey pks, those little bush league trick free kicks. we have smalling and zlatan in the box, get a proper free kick taker to feed them those headers.
Not for £50 million, more like £35-40 million. Would be a fair price in my opinion.
Can you imagine him, Herrera and Mata in the same team? I can't think of a less terrifying trio to line up against. Would be the equivalent of seeing 3 puppies running towards you.
Can you imagine him, Herrera and Mata in the same team? I can't think of a less terrifying trio to line up against. Would be the equivalent of seeing 3 puppies running towards you.
I dont think his pace is that bad, he has a good turn of pace over 5-10 yards, just not the lightning pace of a winger. The type of player he is, for me it all depends on the formation we are playing and where we wish to play him (and I hate saying that as I hate all this formation twaddle).
In a 4-3-3 though his only option is out on the wing, which is one of the reasons Mata has been an absolute waste of a signing. He has much more pace than Mata and I know he started on the wing and played there for Monaco a lot but he just isnt a winger, just like Mata played wide for Valencia but isnt a winger either and for me just like Martial is playing there but should be up front. I think as a number 10 Rodriguez could be a really good signing though in a 4-2-3-1 but then that opens up all kinds of other questions about fitting in Rooney, who to play on the right as though obviously as people said James and possily the Armenian from Dortmund (cant be arsed to look up the spelling) behing Ibrahimovic with Martial on the left....I dont know why but something just doesnt seem to fit for me with those four even tho its far better than what we have obviously. I think signing James means changing a lot more than say signings more of an attacking midfielder in the mould of Pogba for example. I dont think that is neccarsarily a bad thing but probably too much to do in one window.
On a serious note, I think he plays better in those free role system that accommodates him as the central/no.10 role to get the best of him. He is not speedy enough to be out and out winger nor defensively sound for the central midfield post. The area in between the DM and defensive line would be his strength it seems. On paper, he seems to have the tool, but whether he has the right mentality or heart after being "rejected" by Madrid would be beneficial to United.
Yup, I get a similar vibe.
Exactly this, and, he's one of the most improbable players to settle in Manchester, imo, I could think of, too.
I think there's a Di Maria with extras in James in Manchester before even considering the ins and outs of the playing side of the game.
Writing players of cause they would be Madrid's rejects is strange.
If Madrid decided to sell Modrić would you write him off cause well Madrid doesn't want him and we're too proud to feed on their scraps.
There are other reasons we shouldn't go for James though.
If Madrid decided to sell Modrić would you write him off cause well Madrid doesn't want him and we're too proud to feed on their scraps.
There are other reasons we shouldn't go for James though.
Do you think Isco will be moving soon as well? He doesn't really seem to fit Zidane's ideal formation either.
Smell of Di Maria off this one, he's a good player and would be an upgrade on what we currently have but I would worry about his mentality and drive to play at United. I think he moved too soon to Real and it has stunted his development.
It's not like Alexis and Ozil have shown a lack of effort in their play after joining from a bigger club. Not every player is a Di Maria.
However we shouldn't touch this position until we sign a Right Winger (hopefully Mkhitaryan).
However we shouldn't touch this position until we sign a Right Winger (hopefully Mkhitaryan).
They didn't play for LVG tbf
He is a party beast, do not want. Will visit every nightclub from London to Manchester.
Not every player is like Di Maria but there are similarities here that are worrying. Also not to mention Real using us again to get rid of their rejects and fill their coffers for the next big signing.
I'm not against us signing him by the way but its easy to see why there might be concerns about this transfer.
I'm not against us signing him by the way but its easy to see why there might be concerns about this transfer.
He will tear up the Premier League. Only downside is Mendes.
Agreed, and the list goes on...
Robben
Sneijder
Makelele
Cambiasso
Rivaldo
Fabregas
Even Mata came from RM's academy and he was fantastic for Valencia and Chelsea
Not every player is a Di Maria and not every manager is a Van Gaal. Okay, maybe ADM had no intention of really staying at Manchester, but if it was Mou that signed him instead of VG, I'm positive his first year would've been a lot better. He may, or may not, have still left, but it wouldn't have been as bad as the second half of 14-15.
White text! Woosh.
I wouldn't mind us signing him. £40-45m but Madrid would probably get us to pay a bit more. It all depends on Mourinho of course.
I only have 5 posts and I wasted two on the white text prick
Sign players that want to come not players forced to come.