Should move on from him now, get Coman on loan and go in for him next summer when his minimum fee release kicks in
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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Thats what fans love. Increasing a players value tenfold.
Dortmund fans must be over the moon watching Lewandowski's success at Bayern.
Minimum fee?
What minimum fee release?
Most Bayern fans want an exciting league with exciting players. But we cannot play worse on purpose, so we want that our competitors get better. We already lost Werner, it looks like we're losing Havertz and Thiago and the only comparable player coming into the league is Sané. I want Sancho to stay at Dortmund. I want Dortmund to really challenge us for the title. Because our (international) development in the last ten years was also due to the fact that Hoeneß couldn't stand the fact, that Dortmund made us look like fools in 2011 and 2012.
If Dortmund manages to keep Haaland, Sancho, Reyna, Bellingham (and Moukoko) together for 3 or 4 years, they could not only win national titles but also be a dark horse contestor for the CL i think.
Also...i just can't hear the "Bayerns farmer league", "One horse race league" stuff around here and elsewhere regarding the Bundesliga anymore.
So yeah, i want Dortmund to keep their best players.
You would feel the same after 8 titles in a row
Little bit off topic, but a very well reasoned and reflected post. I also think that you not contesting for a CL title, especially during the Guardiola years, has to do with Hoeneß and co. wanting to make an example of Dortmund after they dared challenging them. It took them long to recover from that Götze-Lewandowski-Hummels combination and since you had no real competition in the league and secured the title very early on, you lacked sharpness and routine when the going got tough in the later rounds of the CL.
There is no such thing in his contract.
Thing is, Sancho isn’t a future German star. I could understand if German talent was being lost in droves but the truth is BM would rather they stuck around so they could sign for them.Most Bayern fans want an exciting league with exciting players. But we cannot play worse on purpose, so we want that our competitors get better. We already lost Werner, it looks like we're losing Havertz and Thiago and the only comparable player coming into the league is Sané. I want Sancho to stay at Dortmund. I want Dortmund to really challenge us for the title. Because our (international) development in the last ten years was also due to the fact that Hoeneß couldn't stand the fact, that Dortmund made us look like fools in 2011 and 2012.
If Dortmund manages to keep Haaland, Sancho, Reyna, Bellingham (and Moukoko) together for 3 or 4 years, they could not only win national titles but also be a dark horse contestor for the CL i think.
Also...i just can't hear the "Bayerns farmer league", "One horse race league" stuff around here and elsewhere regarding the Bundesliga anymore.
So yeah, i want Dortmund to keep their best players.
You would feel the same after 8 titles in a row
A lot of foreign players are happy to sign for PL clubs due to the better salaries
He doubled his wages and if Covid wasn’t a thing then I don’t think clubs would balk at 120 mill this summer.
There's a somewhat big difference between not being affected whatsoever and the effects being less demanding than for clubs that solely survive on matchday revenue.
Not to mention the more obvious issues, like new sponsorship deals that are coming up,
He's just a great player to watch, don't care about his passport. I certainly won't cry if he leaves, but won't complain if stays for another year either.
You should read my previous post, I’m not arguing about leading the table of delusion. However, it is strange to see so much unity and support among supporters of different BL clubs united against the evil PL represented by Utd.
The way some posters are posting is just disrespecting. Not only towards BVB but also towards Bundesliga and German football in general. And since a lot of that stuff is just plain wrong, some of us feel like they have something to say about this.
Especially the "BVB is Bayerns feeder" myth over here is ridiculous. They sold 1 player to us over the last decade (Hummels, 1 year contract, we paid well).
They didn't even sell Lewandowski to us with only one year on his contract.
If they were our feeder, the likes of Dembele, Sancho and Haaland would play for us (soon). But i am sure none of them will.
If the deal was off the club would be all over the place saying they were never in for him or found some flaw in his game etc to save face.
The fact that they haven't denied it speaks volumes.
So Chelsea getting Havertz and it's looking like we won't get Sancho and have no real links to anyone else that will improve us.
Clear Chelsy are aiming to improve the question is now are we or we going to repeat José's summer after finishing second.
Sadly it could be the above.
Clear Chelsy are aiming to improve the question is now are we or we going to repeat José's summer after finishing second.
Sadly it could be the above.
Maybe that has to do with United fans behaving like spoilt children who don't get what they want now that the deal seems to be off the table. This thread really gets the worst out of a whole bunch of posters right now.
Some in here possess so little self reflection that they really think Dortmund should bend over and straight out throw 40m € out of the window in order to support United - and feel they're objectively right somehow.
edit: Don't want to include you in that, your posts really seem to be the exception. But you can be dead sure that if Bundesliga fans were collectively belittling the EPL like United posters currently do out of pettiness, you'd see a similar kind of unity among EPL supporters, regardless of the team they support.
Why dont you pay the 150m+ euros to buy him then?
We should have other targets mind, but it seems we are incapable of paying more than 1 agent to do all our business.
Not disputing your overall point but Gotze was in the last decade, too.
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Its like the dickhead Utd fans who went on spammed Juventuz forum, of course emotions are going to be high.
How many groups of fans has this been who have jumped on here to set us straight this year? 4?
Whats the satisfaction behind it?
No offence but dont come into a United forum being a white knight then so?
Its like the dickhead Utd fans who went on spammed Juventuz forum, of course emotions are going to be high.
How many groups of fans has this been who have jumped on here to set us straight this year? 4?
Whats the satisfaction behind it?
So being a supporter of the team this forum is about should grant you the right to get away with everything? People talk bs and that gets pointed out.
I didn't sign up for this forum because I wanted to set you straight. I joined because I liked the discussions in the football forum. It's only in recent months that many United supporters became straight out unbearable and if you read such irrational and disrespectful stuff, it just irks in your finger tips to correct them.
fecking hell, Irony is truly dead in this thread.
I never said United would not feel the effects of Covid, rather that the effects would be minimal by comparison to the smaller clubs who are at risk of going under without matchday revenue to rely on. United have no worries in that department. That they are actively closing in on a mulitmillion pounds deal for Sancho as we speak is evidence of that.
As for new sponsorship deals, we'll have to wait and see.
Next big story from journalists considered 'reliable' will be a positive one.
Because i'm sure his agent will have something to say. He has a lot of money to be made from any transfer
Because i'm sure his agent will have something to say. He has a lot of money to be made from any transfer
Were we embarrassed when CR was the best player in Premier League? I think they are pretty proud there that best english talent (except the obv exception) plays in Bundesliga. And I would be also.
I was kind of hoping for the Sancho transfer, but 120m always seemed pretty out of the league for Glazers/Ed. Especially if you go and see their crumb trail.
They have opened their kittys only in those seasons when we have not made it to CL. With one exeption being the season when we finished 6th in the league but made CL through EL win.
So basically they have spent money only when we finish outside the top 4.
13/14 CL - 75,33 million spent (in which nearly 45 mil was spent in Jan when it was quite clear that Moyes was failing)
14/15 7th place - 146,09 million spent (wasted)
15/16 CL - 53,93 net, while 60mil was on the last day of transfer window for Tony
16/17 5th - 137,75 mil spent
17/18 6th place BUT CL via EL win - 152,9 mil spent
18/19 2nd place - still baffles me, we finished 2nd and we bought 3rd goalkeeper Lee Grant, project Diogo Dalot and Fred. Amazing 52,15 mil spent
19/20 6th place - 132,82 mil spent net.
So history tells me that leeches dont spend money when they have secured CL football.
oh, and i used transfermarkt.com for the data, so all numbers are €
I was kind of hoping for the Sancho transfer, but 120m always seemed pretty out of the league for Glazers/Ed. Especially if you go and see their crumb trail.
They have opened their kittys only in those seasons when we have not made it to CL. With one exeption being the season when we finished 6th in the league but made CL through EL win.
So basically they have spent money only when we finish outside the top 4.
13/14 CL - 75,33 million spent (in which nearly 45 mil was spent in Jan when it was quite clear that Moyes was failing)
14/15 7th place - 146,09 million spent (wasted)
15/16 CL - 53,93 net, while 60mil was on the last day of transfer window for Tony
16/17 5th - 137,75 mil spent
17/18 6th place BUT CL via EL win - 152,9 mil spent
18/19 2nd place - still baffles me, we finished 2nd and we bought 3rd goalkeeper Lee Grant, project Diogo Dalot and Fred. Amazing 52,15 mil spent
19/20 6th place - 132,82 mil spent net.
So history tells me that leeches dont spend money when they have secured CL football.
oh, and i used transfermarkt.com for the data, so all numbers are €
What you said was this:
Which is very different to what you're now claiming you said.
Aaah... look closer. The water bottle malarkey again. Sneaky fecker. I bet Dortmund censored out the part when he drank from the bottle of water again. We all know what that means.
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I guarantee you they would have had a similar tweet even without this saga. They have an active social media and they've just returned for pre-season. Ofcourse they post pics of their players. It's paranoia and sensitivity to think it's some kind of PR move against united.
Would you mind quoting some of these posts that have irked you so much?
Exactly but I’d like to think we’ve got a bit more class than that, it’s all a bit “welcome to Manchester” but clubs like them have to get their kicks somehow, so crack on.
Besides explaining in more detail, how is it different?
No, its this need for rival fans to group together against big bad Redcafe to set us all straight. Its a waste of everybodys time. Its not even about Sancho. Everytime German football is questioned, or even a simple player link, the Bundesliga fans come running, ready to scrap.
My problem with this is attacking the English press and Utd ourselves. We havent made anything public, Ole refuses to comment on it. The English press have been muppet killers by refuting every German report about his close negotistions are, wages being agreed etc.
But feck me Dortmund are running to the press every day about 120m, deadlines etc etc fecking etc. Theyre holding press conferences on fecking deadline day, their social media accounts are trolling for no reason whatsoever. Their fans are taking this way too personally.
When Pogba was linked to Madrid, how many soundbites do we have from Ole? Did Woodward ever comment on it?
You cant claim Utd fans are kids when the other side are publically gloating in a one sided PR binge.
Love to see it though.
Think we are going to have the last laugh.
Sadly it looks to be the case. The club hasn't denied anything to the press regarding Sancho but I don't think Woodward wants to pay a large amount to actually improve the team. Top 4 is probably what he wants to keep making money. I was reading about the prize money from ucl this season and it seems that even getting eliminated from r16 earns you about 80m euro. There are lots of areas in our team where big money transfer is required to properly build a title challenging squad. So, if Sancho is unobtainable this season, you naturally expect him to go after other targets but so far we are linked with no body. Anyway, there is still time but the chances are slim.
Dembele and Auba says hi.
Their insecurities are showing.
It it were the case Simon Stone would have said so. Them and us are just waiting for Dortmund to get a replacement.
Yes. But he was not technically sold by choice. It was a release clause, and BVB was really angry at the time and decided to not accept release clauses in contracts anymore (Haaland seems to be the first exception ever since).
I could easily see Haaland replacing Lewadowski in a few years
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