100% agree with you on that, some people are just stealing for living...
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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But still he miraculously has become a somehow official unofficial speaker for Dortmund here. You were warned, @do.ob said it many times, now there is a dissapointment. Which could have been prevented.
Dortmund is a selling club though. If not us, Sancho will be heading off to some other team in the near future(1-2 years). You have shown no indication in the past 5 years you can keep players of this quality.
So today is the day he hands in a transfer request? Some bloke called Daniel Harris has said it but i don't know who he is
Did he mention it being today? Well he's been wrong before so I wouldn't trust him anyways.
Stop keeping any hopes. Come back on deadline day.
Yeah, whatever mate
Thanks for keeping the quality of the discussion high. In the meantime i will enjoy watching good football.Ok mate you do you
Dont speak too soon
I really hope United sign Sancho and Dortmund know the club is not in a strong enough position to pass up this kind of opportunity. Woodward has the same reputation for savvy and acumen as Wile E. Coyote so I’m not surprised Dortmund are waiting for their asking price to be met.
The problems with this running longer and longer towards October is Dortmund will become more insistent that Sancho isn’t leaving as it leaves them less time to sign a replacement and with us only being able to work on one deal at a time it means we’re doing no other business of any kind, based on last nights performance Sancho is a priority but we need to clear our deadwood so we’ve got cash for other areas too.
We'll get him.
Sorry, I didn't mean to offend but for those who do not follow Dortmund regularly it does seem that way. Of the top of my head in the last 6-7 years, You've sold/lost Lewandowski, Mkhi, Gundogan, Gotze, Hummels, Ousmane Dembele, Pulisic, Kagawa, Aubameyang and I'm probably missing some more. Your model does seem like it relies on flipping players to a certain extent.Yeah, whatever mate
I think if at this moment there is someone who spoke too soon, its the twitter-Bs*itters and the crap english press, and not Zorc after the deadline they set. Thats the point.
Its the German press pressing the story buddy. Its the English press that has been the muppet killers.
I forgot how angry German fans get when a player is linked to England. Its baffling
That’s true - then again, Zorc has said the exact same thing about players you’ve went onto sell within weeks of him saying it.
The window is open until October 5th. A lot can happen yet.
I think Leipzig and Gladbach will run them close for second.
Yeah and ignoring all the development which has happened on exactly this way. In those times, with Lewandowski, or earlier with Götze and so on, those were different times. And in these times no one would have guessed that Dortmund is able to get a Haaland, get a Sancho and can enjoy him a few more years. And this is now the case. Slowly. Cause they are climbing up the ladder, just like the plan is. But thats a different debate, don't want to derail this thread. See you in the BuLi thread if you want to discuss this.
Hope this is billings because we might as well move on. He has three years left ffs.
Let Sancho go. Buy Chiesa.
Most of the English press stated that United would not respect the deadline and have continued to say so. Twitter Bs*itters aside my point is just because Zorc has said the deal is dead do not count your chickens, he has said the same thing about transfers many times including Mhiki to United.
So, is today Sancho day?
He's obviously still coming. We've invested so much time, every journalist agrees too. I do think we'll end up paying basically the whole fee up front though, but I don't care. Find it so bizarre all the gloating Dortmund fans online, do they not know how Zorc operates? I've no idea why they're so confident.
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The oppo fans in here are like flies around shit at the moment. It's quite pathetic.
It was Watzke who said it about leaving all three players at once. Which then wasn't true, and was explained that it was cause of Mkhitaryan, who didn't keep his word. Which btw fits to the image Raiola has in here. But i can write and explain what i want, people will scratch after every little glimpse of hope, unitl Oktober. Do yourself a favor and let it go.
The facts have changed: Sancho got one more year contract, all the post about "hey yeah they have to sell they have to sell cause blabla" are nonsense, Sancho got more years of contract then we though. And Zorc made a clear statement. Your argument is even against you: Watzkes words of the past did hurt them a lot (proof: post like yours), and they never ever will make this error twice. If Zorc said Sancho is staying, after theyir own deadline, then Sancho will stay. I don't know where exactly this is rocket science. It isn't hard to understand isn't it?
As bitter as it sounds, at this point I'll gain about as much enjoyment from the transfer as I will rubbing it into these gloating cnuts if it happens. The German poster invasion any time we're linked to a Bundesliga player is something to behold.
Anyone seen Dortmund’s latest tweet? They are taking the piss out of United once again.
With a combination of Kagawa, Micky, Haaland, Bellingham and now Sancho. They are making us looks like idiots.
With a combination of Kagawa, Micky, Haaland, Bellingham and now Sancho. They are making us looks like idiots.
They are all embarrassed that the best player in their league is English it seems.
Today?
We are preparing for a European semi final. They are busy posting silly tweets. What does that tell you about both clubs? I'm sure Jadon is most impressed.
You get these players because you offer them first team football and you clearly have an agreement that players can get their big move if the price is right. Players and agents are not stupid. Development with first team football and Champions League, then the massive pay day arrives. Dortmund will and have always worked this way.
They want us to pay the money to shut them up. They're a selling club and they are trying to maximise the proceeds from this sale.
I can understand their position and would expect my club to do similar in the same circumstances.
Whether we are prepared to pay they money required, is the big unknown here. We can't afford €120m euros up front, but can we afford something that Dortmund would be willing to accept? We'll probably test the waters again in September.
Woodward must regret saying "We can do things in the market that other clubs can only dream of!" a few years ago.
Such a stupid thing to say, gives selling clubs leverage. (No way would Dortmund ask any other club for £100m. They'd let Bayern have him for a cheese toastie, even if Bayern forgot the cheese) - but we never get a big deal done until the very brow of the transfer window.
Such a stupid thing to say, gives selling clubs leverage. (No way would Dortmund ask any other club for £100m. They'd let Bayern have him for a cheese toastie, even if Bayern forgot the cheese) - but we never get a big deal done until the very brow of the transfer window.
He does regret it and has subsequently tried to row back from it. He remains a complete and utter clown.
Pretty certain United have other offensive options on the cards if this deal doesn't got through.
Its not Sancho or nothing.
Others options as in more average talent no doubt.
Haha, very good.
If we do somehow snatch victory from the jaws of defeat and sign Sancho, I don't want any of you Dortmund posters piping up about how it's a 'win' to get the money and Zorc played us. Today has made it clear which you prefer between the money and the player
I think, it is a win situation for BVB. Dortmund cannot lose.
If we sell for 120 Mio, we are used to it and we will move on. Maybe with the next player we have a chance to hold him a bit longer.
If he stays for another 3 years and we get nothing, we had him for 3 more years and that would be amazing for us as well.
Everything inbetween is as good as well.
Seriously? Dortmund has communicated with the player that he can move if sum x is paid, apparently 120m. That was the bargain. How on earth are they not holding up their end of that bargain?
Instead, you expect them to sell for 40m less than they bargained with him because of Covid. Why should Dortmund be the party to renounce so that United and Sancho can have their ways?Honestly, if they sold Sancho for 80m now that would be criminal mismanagement given that they can sell him for 120m next year in a recovered market. There is absolutely zero economic reason to do such a thing and they probably had to explain to their shareholders why they do such a dumb thing with their investment.
I'm sorry, but you're just trying to find a scapegoat.
Think it'll be another Sanchoff day.
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