If all this is true, then we definitely wont sign him. I mean it is not 10-15 millions in question, it is bloody 50
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Thought so, but foor the look of it, seems more like horse manure. Media is also always playing the media game, truth is seldom part of it.
Part of me believes 120 is not yet "too much" so that we can't cough it up, its a great invesment for a rich club in almost all regards. Real fear should be him not performing and needing to be shipped in 3 years time, thats a bigger failure. He'll come.
They're just pissed off that their feeder club could possibly sell to another team.
Value is historical information including brand equity etc. In difficult times, cashflow management is critical.
They may be 12th most valuable but if you look at the Scousers or Arsenal, both are more 'valuable' clubs than Dortmund -- and yet they are both scrimping for pennies for this summer's transfers.
There are reasons why nobody else are bidding for Sancho. Financial constraints of other clubs will be a common thread amongst the big clubs. Its times like this, that we ought to be chuffed to be sponsored by Mr Noodles and the likes.
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It's more about their owners are being stingy.
https://www.transfermarkt.us/borussia-dortmund/alletransfers/verein/16
They do a pretty darn job every summer with transfers. Teams like Arsenal and Liverpool haven’t sold the way Dortmund have. Their incoming cash flow (from Dembele, Auba, Pulisic etc.) over the past few years is higher than their outgoings. They have one of the biggest stadiums in Europe so gate receipts wasn’t an issue till Covid. Their wage structure is small compared to other teams of their size. Again their finances aren’t as bad as you think. Sure it’s affected due to the pandemic but it’s not the end of the world for them if they don’t get 120m.
We are owned and run by carnival barkers.
Dont know if its watching so many signings disappoint the last few years or how much im enjoying the current attack, but i find myself not giving a single feck if this doesnt come off
If this is all about pay installments then i get it. But if we just have a different valuation with the covid excuse then I don't. The kid is worth 120m if not more. Coutinho set barca back 142 mill !!!!!!
This kid will be so marketable, and he will make those around him better. Get in done geeeeeees
This kid will be so marketable, and he will make those around him better. Get in done geeeeeees
This is very wrong on many levels. You are by far overestimating the quality of Dortmunds squad. Who from BVB team would be a regular starter in Bayern? Sancho, yeah, he is better than Gnabry. And this is it.
Bayerns quality of the squad is so immense and they will teach you by winning the CL this year.
Additionally Bayerns players are grown men. They are more consistent, have more self confidence and don't become as nervous in big games as the talent squad of the yellow-blacks.
There are 2 kinds of teams in Europe: Those who can keep their players and grow their team constantly and the teams that need to let go of their star players constantly and dig their way out of a hole again and again. While BVB is doing a fantastic job with the digging, they are far away from a team like Bayern. And the wages reflect that. While Bayern is paying 360, BVB is playing about 200.
What are the other decent options for the right wing.
Time to move on to new targets..
Time to move on to new targets..
Our luck with transfers from this club has been all bad lately. I'd take a shot at Coman for 1/3 the price. Maybe establish a new French Connection between he, Tony and Pogba.
Problem is that Coman is not for sale. Bayern even wants to add a fourth winger - they will surely not get rid of any of their three...
This is badly researched (Dortmund do not sell players often to Bayern, they have just been bullied by Bayern when they started to become a bigger team), badly interpreted (this is not pure greed, BVB has actually bought some quality players lately (Brandt, Can, Hazard, this is also where Dembele money went) and they need to be payed as well and we do not get as much TV money in Germany as you get in the UK) and also young players are lining up to play in Dortmund, because they are the best choice for development and playtime in Europe at this moment.
I hope I could help you out, but you should research better so you base your frustration and resentment for not getting a player on valid reasons.
They called our bluff, time to cough up the money.
If we can’t afford him, so be it. It’s COVID market, every clubs are in short of cash, can’t really blame anyone here.
Meanwhile let’s look for cheaper option, maybe buy Chiesa for 45m? Or maybe buy Willian free as backup to Greenwood?
Meanwhile let’s look for cheaper option, maybe buy Chiesa for 45m? Or maybe buy Willian free as backup to Greenwood?
So they can say that there hasn’t been any contact between the clubs.
Might be cheaper to buy whoever at Dortmund is opposing the sale for the price we re willing to pay. Certainly a few million in their pocket will work. German companies like bribes. Easy.
We will either pay the asking price or not get him at all, Dortmund would look like proper mugs if they sold him for anything less than what they’ve asked for initially. I reckon there’s a good chance we will just pull out of the deal completely now though and focus on other targets or just leave the squad as it is.
Treated like an amateur.
It appears this transfer is not going to happen.
Dortmund issued a statement this morning, according to the BBC.
No bluff calling or brinkmanship. It's off.
Dortmund issued a statement this morning, according to the BBC.
No bluff calling or brinkmanship. It's off.
It's not like we are giving the money to allow it but personally I'm sick and tired to let it pass anymore because I suffer with the club and can't stand someone to making foul out of us anymore.
Almost precisly the same way Maguire and Bruno was "off" . Dortmund will need to find and replacement, and to not be fleeced people need to think they are not getting £120 m. around the corner.
Their number 1 target Memphis Depay is still playing CL (not a coincidence then "deadline" was shortly after Lyon played Juve), we are playing EL, so there is lots of reasons why the clubs need to find some reason they can give the media while they wait.
If the transfer was 100% off Simon Stone would have said it was 100 % off.
This is still going to happen for sure.
Edit: Just look at what happened the last two high profile transfers where Zorc said "nein".
Sancho will have to force his move as Dembele and Auba did. Quite like that idea as well. Shows us whether he really wants the move and really wants to play for us.
To make this transfer easier, Sancho should make his intent clear. I hope that at some point Sancho gets tired of all these shits and tired of playing along for Dortmund.
Then one day he drives a Reliant Robin in front of Zorc's BMW, pops a wheelie while blasting 'God Save The Queen' very loudly. It's legal to do that, he won't break the club's rule.
Then one day he drives a Reliant Robin in front of Zorc's BMW, pops a wheelie while blasting 'God Save The Queen' very loudly. It's legal to do that, he won't break the club's rule.
What a ride ey? In the end its like a lot german posters said here. And all the ITK twitter "news" were BS, and reliable journalists like Röckenhaus spoke the truth.
The biggest suprise for me is the secret extension of Sanchos contract, fantastic. Dortmund now got a good team for the season, looking forward too!
The biggest suprise for me is the secret extension of Sanchos contract, fantastic. Dortmund now got a good team for the season, looking forward too!
You sure have all the tools to get second again next year.
We've been discussing that statement all day
I'm not saying that that the deal is off and I'm not saying that things like these are not part of the business.
I'm just saying that I suffer with my club and I'm pissed when someone trying to make foul out of the club of my heart.
And It's not that I am praising Ed that much but I as a supporter am on his side on that one like with Dybala last summer when someone trying to twist our hands thinking we are some circus monkey and do whatever they are asking.
Yeah, but with a Sancho.
Just looked on the BBC and all they were reporting was what Zorc said yesterday. They only additional thing was them asking if the belief at united that dortmund have to sell for financial reasons was answered , `they will see, time will tell on that one. `
Still not a finite definitive.
If we do somehow snatch victory from the jaws of defeat and sign Sancho, I don't want any of you Dortmund posters piping up about how it's a 'win' to get the money and Zorc played us. Today has made it clear which you prefer between the money and the playerYeah, but with a Sancho.
Yeah, but with a Sancho.
Let's wait and see. If he wants the move he'll get it. If he doesn't it's better he stays with you anyway.
If they get the offer for 120m they’ll sell but I generally believe we don’t have that cash this summer. With everything that’s going on and the uncertainty it’s a risky move to spend that amount of money.
The only way I see this happening is like an M’bappe style deal where we pay £60m now for a years loan with an obligation to buy for a future 60m next summer but I’m not sure Dortmund will be interested in that.
The only way I see this happening is like an M’bappe style deal where we pay £60m now for a years loan with an obligation to buy for a future 60m next summer but I’m not sure Dortmund will be interested in that.
The actual transfer deadline is October 5th. You should save your gloating for then if you have a reason to.
Time to move on to other targets, let's not waste our summer on this.
Yeah, zaha next
I have wrote it before and repeat myself: Both ways would have been great: 120 Million to sign new players (in a defined deadline) or al least another season with Sancho. Now we got Sancho and don't have to sign someone in a hurry, and he knows the team, we know him and what he is cabable of. You can see it also like this: a lot of arrogant bitterness against BVB or posters here were always full of suggestions that BVB is only a selling club and prevent itself from being better (ignoring all the facts and history but ok..). Now those posters with this attitude can pat themself on the back, Dortmund is on the way to be able to follow those advises.If we do somehow snatch victory from the jaws of defeat and sign Sancho, I don't want any of you Dortmund posters piping up about how it's a 'win' to get the money and Zorc played us. Today has made it clear which you prefer between the money and the player
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