Whether it's 80 or 100 is really not important in the long run TBH. If he turns out as good as expect he will be worth double that in no time.
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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Why are so many obsessing over the fee and £100m? For a hugely talented, young and English player it is cheap. Look at Rooney, Ferdinand fees for example. If we have Sancho for 15 years and he is as successful as his talent suggests we would be talking about it as a bargain just as we have with other record fees for British players we have paid like Robson and Keane for example.
The only argument really is if it stops us from purchasing in other important areas this summer, which it shouldnt
It's viewed as a great season only because he is 18 y.o. Nobody would pay so much for him if he was 24 y.o. The expectation is that this season is only the tip of the iceberg for what is to come. Mkhitarian had excellent numbers too and was voted best player in the Bundesliga prior to his United move. Didn't help him to stand out in the PL.
Personally, I'm not convinced about Sancho. Obviously, he is a top talent but he doesn't impress me that much (even if this sounds somewhat contradictory). Might be completely wrong though.
I respect your opinion, but care to elaborate? what does he do for an 18 year old that you find not impressive?
We have a gaping hole on the right wing and a manager who has shown faith in young players. It seems like a pretty good place for him to establish himself.
What would impress you then?
Ravel Morrison was a top talent too, mentality wasn't right though. Something about Sancho doesn't convince me despite his obvious skills on the ball and awareness about the movement of his teammates.
Doesn't impress me so much for a player who could cost 100-120m. Potential is a highly speculative thing. He may or may not develop into a world beater.
You have a point, however we need to also clinch a CL spot to have a decent chance too.
Right ok, no actual reasons then apart from a transfer fee.
Money is there to improve the squad, doesn't matter what it costs. We've done this before and opted for the average option which doesn't work out.
Sancho already beats Mkhitaryan's best goals and assists productivity in the BL. Sancho 1 every 90mins this season - to Mkhitaryan's 1 every 99 mins in 15/16
Mkhitaryan's problem always was psychological and he struggled to maintain form. Sacnho has been remarkably consistent since he made his debut 18 months ago. Having followed Sancho for a few years now I've seen nothing to suggest that he struggles with confidence or desire.
Ravel Morrison marched to the beat of his own drum. You can't compare him to someone who appears to be a proper pro.
Basically you're taking a contrarian approach - fair enough.
Good point actually I hadn’t thought of the euros, no guarantee he’ll be a regular If he moved he will be if he stays .
There is a huge gap between Mkhi's numbers in the Bundesliga and the PL and I'm not sure it's only due to psychological factors. Time will tell with Sancho, might be even more productive in the PL. I'd pay 80-90m for him right now. Not sure about say 120m but Ole and the people at the club know much better than me. I don't expect Dortmund to sell though, unless the offer is a bit crazy.
I think his body and physical capabilities are not ready to repeat similar numbers in the Epl yet. He won't be allowed to dribble past opponents the way he does it in those Bundesliga YouTube highlights. My personal opinion is he at least need a year or more to develop physically and rake the same numbers and performances in English league.
Better to take a risk and spend £100-120 million on Sancho than buy new Rojos, Darmians, Schneiderlins, nevermind past it Matic, Sanchez and Falcao.
It does seem the most people who don't fancy him have very little argument. Possibly they just want to go against the crowd so they can say "I was right" on the off chance he doesn't blossom into the player he looks destined to be.
Comparing him to Morrison is wildly bizarre and random. At the age Sancho is now, Morrison was already on the way down.
Comparing him to Morrison is wildly bizarre and random. At the age Sancho is now, Morrison was already on the way down.
If he joins United he's going to be first choice, that much is pretty obvious. He's got more chance of playing for the English team in the English league also. Southgate clearly rates him, I don't think there's any issue there.
Hahahaha, this.
How can someone compare Sancho and Morrison? Morrison from the earliest days had bad press Wrong attitude, court cases etc. Not heard anything of the sort about Sancho.
Honestly I don't see him struggling to establish or settle here though. He knows the area, he knows the players, he's also grown up with the PL in mind.
I've longed thought it was best for him to stay at Dortmund too, but the more I think about it, there's no reason why he can't make the same progression with us instead.
Sancho looks likke a real pro,so the comparison with Ravel isn't convincing. Most posters on here know Sancho's development much better than me, so my opinion is just a personal hunch.
I think they must be watching 5-10 minutes of games where he loses the ball a couple of times
Watch a few full games of his and it's obvious he is a star in the making.
There's a huge gap in Mkhitaryan's numbers in the BL too, he completely tanked in his second season after a good first season, it was his third season that he really looked a player but his psychological frailty was common knowledge by then. His numbers in the PL this are not bad this season actually, a goal or assist every 116 minutes.
The BL is a lower level than the PL granted and Sancho could flop but for age, potential and profile I fail to see a better target.
That’s completely understandable but we need to sign these players young and develop them. Like we did under Fergie with Ronaldo and Rooney. If we don’t act quick with these players they will move somewhere else.
The best thing about this club is watching young players flourish and build a career here. I’d sooner have a gamble on Sancho with the hope he turns into a special player than just spunk 40-60m on a ready made player who’s decent but not special.
The pressure at United is much bigger than at Dortmund. It would take only few average games for critics in the media to target him.
The guy is obviously top class. The vision, touch, weight and accuracy of passing is sublime. I also like his attitude, he isn't cocky or arrogant and seems quite shy.
£100m for 10 years service isn't "value" but it's not a terrible deal. Sign him up!
£100m for 10 years service isn't "value" but it's not a terrible deal. Sign him up!
But you're just presuming he's mentally weak? He's come through City's academy, decides to leave England to seek opportunities at one of the biggest clubs in Germany as a English teenager, you need balls to do that. I'm not worried about the lads confidence at all.
People keep talking about mentality etc etc. You can never guarantee any of this kind of stuff Look at Sanchez! What's his excuse?
Sancho has time on his hands and you will not know about his mentality till her arrives to us. Also, he has youth on his side. He can improve on how to cope with pressure etc. All his family is local too, so I'm sure he'd be just fine
Sancho has time on his hands and you will not know about his mentality till her arrives to us. Also, he has youth on his side. He can improve on how to cope with pressure etc. All his family is local too, so I'm sure he'd be just fine
Sanchez's issue isn't mentality. You can tell the guy is running himself into the ground. The issue is his legs aren't what they use to be.
So mentally he's not been able to adapt. He was pretty decent leading up to signing for us and then, like a light switch, he was poor soon as he put on the red top...not just about his legs.
No.
Why do people keep mentioning his pace? He doesn’t have Rashford levels of speed but I’ve never seen him struggle to sprint away from players. Would say he is every bit as fast as Martial and faster than Lingard who he would be replacing.
Sanchez was actually pretty bad for Arsenal also. The difference is he played as a striker for them, he looked better as a striker for us.
He can't play on the wing anymore as he doesn't have the pace to run away from defenders like he used to.
I am more excited about the prospect of signing this lad than anybody we have been linked with in a long while. Young, English, extremely talented, very high potential and in a position we are crying out to fill. What is there not to be excited about. All of this makes me feel it is too good to be true though and woody is eyeing up a swap deal with Pogba and Bale instead!
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of all the things to believe... come on. The last person to make a stupid deal like that is Woodward.I don't like this talk of he would join only if we are in champions league
Come on ..We are Man Utd ! We need players desperate to play for us and it should be on our terms rather than players terms
I agree football has changed in last few years and it's players market but still a club like UTD with rich history (where we provide a platform to show case and excel their skills) has still got that x-factor
I really felt bad when we missed Hazard but I totally agree with SAF that he wanted players willing to join UTD more than any other club and Hazard could have done that if he wanted to
So I always take a full hearted RVP over an half hearted Hazard
I hope Sancho would really like to join us as he can not only play with Rashford & CO but he can show city what they are missing
Come on ..We are Man Utd ! We need players desperate to play for us and it should be on our terms rather than players terms
I agree football has changed in last few years and it's players market but still a club like UTD with rich history (where we provide a platform to show case and excel their skills) has still got that x-factor
I really felt bad when we missed Hazard but I totally agree with SAF that he wanted players willing to join UTD more than any other club and Hazard could have done that if he wanted to
So I always take a full hearted RVP over an half hearted Hazard
I hope Sancho would really like to join us as he can not only play with Rashford & CO but he can show city what they are missing
I know I should of said Pogba + cash for Bale!
Say we miss out on the CL which could happen considering how tight it is, would he still be interested ? Tbh I'm on the "wait and see" stance because the German league isn't great judging by how easily Liverpool and Spurs dispatched their respective opponents who are the best teams in Germany.
I’m interested to see if he can translate this form as well. As you say about the Bundesliga, their teams were put away pretty easily by PL sides, and we’ve been stung by Mkhi and Kagawa before. Even Batshuayi was banging them in over there. He looks like exactly the player we need on the right, but it’s all academic if he can’t do it against better players.
How can anyone be against this transfer. Lad's a star. And to all those folks asking us to wait another year, if he keeps playing like this it would be incredibily hard to sign him up next year not to mention Bvb's valuation will skyrocket!
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