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Jadon Sancho - Chelsea (loan) watch
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I'm 100% sure that they would have made an offer if Terzic had stayed as their manager. But that's obviously just my personal theory.
I think a large part of what is helping as you've implied also is we/Maresca is basically using him more adequately, ala horses for courses/coq in the machine.
Whereas when he went to United he was the superstar signing (I'm guessing would have also got the number 7 had it been avaliable and the plan was him getting it once CR7 left) who was suppose to be one of the big faces for the next era (if not the).
So far he's basically been a Willian type "balance" player, which is fine for the fee we got him for but understandably for the money you paid for him and the wages on top you expected a lot more.
He is looking gud in a Chelsea shirt atm.
Every time I see him he is just ok. Tidy but impotent, rarely threatens to actually do something that may hurt the opposition but isn't a detriment to his team either. Just gets the ball, dribbles a little bit and finds a pass to the nearest teammate.
Shows the difference in standards from fans.
If Sancho had the same performances in a red shirt no one would be saying he is looking good.
Him playing a few okay games for Chelsea and suddenly he is looking good.
I said at the moment. You don't need to see it at different angles and lose the plot. It was just a superficial review from me.
Utd fans would be way more vocal and critical of these performances in a Utd shirt.
He was shite here, it's not worked out. He may still be a good player somewhere else and fair play to him if he does that. He'll never tear up in the PL as a wide player though, he doesn't have the speed and dynamic style of play for it.
I was checking a few player ratings on live score sites and he seems to be the worst rated chelsea player alongside Lavia with an average of ~6.6 - in a winning side. They won 3:0 and he didnt get on the score sheet and didn't assist a goal. How could he have been great?
Obviously I can't have a strong opionion on this as i didn't watch the game but surely he could'nt have been that good. Seems like one of those performances at united when he has been ok and not shite.
Obviously I can't have a strong opionion on this as i didn't watch the game but surely he could'nt have been that good. Seems like one of those performances at united when he has been ok and not shite.
Nobody said he was "great" against Villa.
It looks like as well as not watching the game, you also didn't read the thread.
If he changes his dogshit attitude he can be a useful player for Chelsea at that price. He'll never be a "strongest XI" type player because he simply doesn't impact the game in enough ways, but if he's upping his out of possession game and working harder then he's obviously technical enough to provide value as a rotational option in a good side and for certain setups tactically. Big if though, because right now he has everything to prove but he could very easily get comfortable in a year and just be happy to trot around again.
That's never been a problem elsewhere.
That's simply not true. Dortmund had someone who would go wake him up ffs. If that's not an attitude issue, I don't know what it.
Unsure why the back and forth here.
He wouldn’t be playing over Amad currently who looks sensational and the better player.
United don’t miss or need him. Let him go in peace.
He wouldn’t be playing over Amad currently who looks sensational and the better player.
United don’t miss or need him. Let him go in peace.
The thread is being kept active by United fans tbf. I agree with you though, I personally don’t think he’s playing well enough or bad enough to warrant a perpetually active thread but here we are.
He’s been a big disappointment so understand somewhat but I’ve not seen anything so far to suggest moving him to you guys was a bad move or will be in the future.
I'd say he looks pretty good in a Chelsea shirt for a 25m acquisition.
£25m and apprantly £100k'ish wages and I will agree he is probably a decent squad player option.
£25m and 300k yeah!
He agreed to cut his wages to the base $100k and bonuses to join permanently.
I have read here that Man United are paying partial wages during the loan, but have not seen a journalist write that.
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Is the £100k per wages confirmed by a proper source? Seems mental to take a £200k pay cut just to rely on bonuses.
I think the only thing that Orny said was Sancho agreed to a significant wage reduction.
Nice strike after the game was decided.
So is this thread going to be bumped everytime he does something remotely noteworthy. Chelsea fans love to gloat as if they've robbed United blind. He's the definition of a fair-weather player - will look okay at times dependent on how how the team does but that's essentially it.
Tagged on a late 5th against the team that is bottom of the table.
Big game player right there.
Good signing for £25M.
It’s been bumped more times after a being an unused sub or when he isn’t even in the squad than anything good. This wasn’t even a bump. People were posting in here today, well before the game.
I appreciate that playing Arsenal / modern Stoke is frustrating but yes of course? Especially as it was being bumped for far less noteworthy news items such as "being ill" and "picking up a knock in training".
He’s perfect for this Maresca team. Brilliant at receiving and maintaining the ball, is great in tight spaces in the final third, and is fantastic at aggressively running at defenders in 1v1’s. Can beat one and even two defenders with ease at times.
Think he’s going to get better and better with more starts.
Think he’s going to get better and better with more starts.
O sweet summer child
Bring him back just to make his life miserable.
What’s you gut feeling on him? Long term contributor to the team? Chelsea are going places now, so curious to know if he will be good enough for them.
I think he's still our best option on the wings against teams who will sit deep and not stretch the game too much. His ball retention and final third passing are miles ahead of our other attackers minus Palmer - and he's exactly the sort of player who can help elevate Palmer by playing off him creatively.
Based on what we've seen from Maresca he wants to tailor his approach to the opposition - so Sancho should always be someone who is useful in specific matchups. I doubt he'll be a world class player who walks into the best XI like Palmer or Caicedo at this point - but I do think he can be a very useful squad player who is especially handy when chasing a late goal.
I've watched every minute of his appearances so far and that is a gross exaggeration. He needs to do a little more in 1v1s to be in that conversation, but like Hazard he can do so much centrally that it's not a necessity like it is for Madueke. Still very happy with his overall play and he's improved since he arrived. Certain starter right now for me.
Don’t see why not? Plus, Sancho isn’t here to be a savior or main man. If his form dips we have a fantastic group of wide attackers to rotate with him.
Clarification is needed I think - I agree that he's not great at 1v1s in space, but when running at a defender in or around the penalty box he's very dangerous - especially when he has a passing option nearby he can either use or feint a ball to.
I reckon it will all depend on whether your coach can keep him stimulated in the long term. Theres clearly a talent in there.
He’s not a certain starter for me. He’s still very much a rotational option. Madueke and Neto should keep starting ahead of him for me, but when Maresca wants Neto on the right, then yes Madueke will have to drop to the bench and Sancho then becomes the best option for the left side.
Yep agreed. It's been positive thus far but as competition for places gets harder next year we'll see how sustainable it is.
When he signed I was very happy with idea of him being a rotation option at that price tag. He's a little different to the other wide attackers and of course, there is the upside of him perhaps fulfilling his potential. But he's certainly ahead of where I thought he'd be. We all know he can beat his man, good technically, and he's got an eye for a pass. Even in the cameo today I could care less about the goal - I watched his positioning in all phases and tracking of runners, and it's a lot better than when he started (great last match too). To watch him, Palmer, and Enzo playing off each other is a treat.