Completely agree, the comparisons are flawed due to the context of their situation and you nailed exactly why. Sancho becomes exponentially more dangerous and valuable if you have weapons around him that's going to attract the attention of the defense. There is almost nobody who is single-handedly going to transform this current United side, and Sancho is now adjusted but he's still a young player who is finding his way in this dysfunctional side. As far as him getting double-teamed, that's something he's dealt with in the past and will continue to get better at. But he needs the outlets to really unleash everything that makes him such a brilliant talent.
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He’s a fantastic talent but he’s much better suited to play right wing at top level. Playing him LW with Rashford RW when we have to score is just mind-blowing. Really would like this season to just end and us to get in a top class permanent manager.
Haha ok mate, apologies for lowering the standard of the discourse on the Caf. I will strive to do better!
The guy obviously is not someone who can just run past players for fun. He doesn’t seem that pacy either. To be fair to him, he was constantly surrounded by 2-3 Atheltico players every time he got the ball, and didn’t really get any support from other players in those situations.
I think fans need to reset their expectations on him, and the type of player he is. He’s no Rashford or Martial at their best, who could just dribble past a lot of players and then use their pace. As people have said, a direct fullback who can do that would benefit him a lot. If the club expected him to be that sort of winger, then they really need to consider what the scouting team is doing these days.
I think fans need to reset their expectations on him, and the type of player he is. He’s no Rashford or Martial at their best, who could just dribble past a lot of players and then use their pace. As people have said, a direct fullback who can do that would benefit him a lot. If the club expected him to be that sort of winger, then they really need to consider what the scouting team is doing these days.
All I hear here are excuses for a player who has been bang average throughout the majority of the season..'' It's the fullbacks not helping him in one game'', ''the players around him are not good enough''. ''The tactics don't play to his strengths'. We ''need a new manager for him'' ''he plays better on the left....no no his best position is on the right ''
When you have to produce so many excuses for a player, alarm bells should start ringing. We did this before with Maguire, ''oh we need a better pacy CB beside him and he'll thrive etc. We've done it with Martial, we done it with rashford we done it with Pogba. Oh they need better players around them bs excuse. If a player is good enough, they will shine through in spite of the players around them.
Now Sancho needs world class full backs, word class forwards and world class midfielders for him to shine.
Sancho was so bad in his first 7 appearances that Ole had no choice but to bench his behind.
You talk about Liverpool threats, Do you think teams don't have to worry about marking Ronaldo, Bruno or Elanga? Are these players not considered threats?
Let me ask you out of the 24 games Sancho has played this seaason, how many times do you think he's been triple marked?
And how many times has our full backs failed to help him change his nappies?
Because for me, 3 goals and 3 assists in the whole entire campaign in all competitions is a pathetic return for a 75 million player.
I don't expect him to dribble past 5-7 players on his own, I expect him to be a consistent threat, i.e get into dangerous positions on the pitch, score goals and make assists, I don't care how he does it. For 75million What I don't expect when we spunk our entire budget on one player is to hear a bunch of excuses. Elanga who is 19 years old is showing more promise and proviiding us with more of threat and has scored just as many goals as this guy. Elanga was unlucky not to score against Athletico if not for a lucky save from Oblak. He also turned up in Madrid and bailed us out, something Sancho failed to do, instead went missing. That's what I expect from a top class player. I don't see elanga needing excuses being made for him, because he gets on with it and delivers.
Sancho hasn't been unlucky he's just been bang average save for a few decent games against shoddy defences.
If Elanga was English, my god this boy would be classed as a world beater by now by our fans and the media, because I rate him better than this guy who has shown so far that he's all hype without any substance.
Messi had a Ballon D'Or worthy 2020/21, now he barely looks a top 10 player if at all. Systems and how you integrate the player into it are crucial for his performances. These days there isn't a single player that works in a team that's not playing to his strengths. And Solskjaer was just awful as a coach. Sancho basically went from a league that's obsessed with systems to the exact opposite. Put Bernardo Silva or Mahrez in this team and they'd look out of place, too.
Many people in here think that all the players joining United suddenly become shit or respectively were so before, their performances only amplified by worse opposition or whatever. Maybe it's time to accept that the club is the problem and especially its philosophy.
You’ll be disappointed as most managers will play Sancho on the left.
Clueless post that completely ignores the nuances of tactics and different systems. Ever think many it was Utd who failed those players rather than the other way around?
Not in the England squad but Smith Rowe is?
Mind boggling.
Mind boggling.
How he hasn’t made the squad is baffling! Grealish and Smith Rowe? Ah well at least he gets a break.
Will wait to hear what Southgate has to say but it's a bizarre decision on the face of it.
The above is just plainly wrong.
Sancho had a patchy start and isn't 'far and away' better than the group he lists, but he clearly has not had a worse season than some of those players. Smith-Rowe can't even make the Arsenal team this year!
Southgate is an idiot. Rashford you can understand but Grealish has been garbage and gets a look in ahead of Sancho? What a joke.
Not that much of surprise. He's been better for a month or so but not brilliant.
Smith-Rowe has done nout to justify his inclusion, not has Grealish if we’re being honest but at least he’s usually quite good for England.
Grealish hahaha
He might be a bit unluck not to be called up but at the same time he's not exactly nailed down his spot in the England team.
Decent enough for us, yet to perform for England.
Can't complain too much.
Decent enough for us, yet to perform for England.
Can't complain too much.
It is a bit obvious, you play for City means you get into the squad.
Look at the summer, Grealish was struggling to get in the team, as soon as he signs for City, starts England games.
Southgate is a very poor manager and will be the reason England don't win anything.
Not being English, I don't give a feck if Sancho is called or not. I actually prefer him not being called, diminish the chances of injuries.
Just confirms Southgate is an idiot. He's lucky England was so bad in the past because otherwise the expectations with these individuals would be far higher.
On Jadon Sancho: "You just have to look at the other attacking players in the squad; Bukayo Saka, Emile Smith Rowe, Phil Foden. Jadon's performances have improved at Manchester United, but it is an area where we have big competition for places."
I'm at a loss as to how Smith-Rowe got in over him but I understand with Grealish. Southgate wasn't happy with Grealish in the defensive phase previously but he's significantly improving that under Guardiola. Similar could be applied to Sancho. I'm not too worried about Sancho not getting selected as Dortmund said his whole motivation to come back to England was to get in the England side so as long as he isn't he needs to keep getting better.
Wasn’t he still getting picked at the beginning of the season when he was on the bench for us? Maybe that’s what he needs to do to get back in.
He wasn't.
Yeah he did, I think if Sancho keeps up his form until the end of the season he'll be in the next squad in the summer.
Played for England against Andorra on the 9th of October.
Well said and i don’t really think Southgate is too far wrong either. So much of what’s wrong with the players at our club is they incorrectly already think they are elite because of exposure and money. Sancho has been our best player for the past month or so but we’ve been terrible Spurs aside. United players need to be coming together and competing for the title.
Good point!
Smith Rowe has barely played for a month while Sancho has been showing his best form since his move to England.
Gareth Southgate ladies and gentleman.
Gareth Southgate ladies and gentleman.
Sancho not picked but Slabhead and sick note Shaw get in. Take a bow Southgate.
Drama aside Jadon wouldn't be in my starting England eleven tbh.
The inclusion of Smith-Rowe over Sancho with the rationale that Southgate’s presented can only be explained by this being a pre-recorded statement from December or something.
I agree, but the reason given by Southgate is just wrong.
I really hate the idea of England call-ups being seen as an 'award'. The manager should pick the squad most likely to win games and ultimately tournaments, it shouldn't be a prize for the 23-26 English players who are having the 'best season' (obviously a lot of those players overlap but not necessarily all).
I just think by any metric Sancho should probably be in that squad. Whether it is for Southgate's reasoning of the 'best season' (he is in better form than ESR at the moment), or whether it is more about the overall squad (Sancho already being a part of it). So unless Sancho is for some reason disruptive or bad for the team, I can't see why he isn't in the squad (though agree he may well not be in the XI at the moment).
I sometimes think that just because we’re not doing so well as a team that they certainly don’t think any of our players are performing well. Smith rowe over sancho? Give me a break is that just because arsenal are higher then us or performing better then us? Even grealish, he clearly gets in the team because he plays for city, if he was at villa and having a bad season would he get called up? Southgate is clueless, surely you’d want an inform player in your team whilst he’s confident and playing his best football…: I’m not bothered though because at least when we next play in the league we’ll have a fully fit sancho.
is that just because arsenal are higher then us or performing better then us? Even grealish, he clearly gets in the team because he plays for city, if he was at villa and having a bad season would he get called up? Southgate is clueless, surely you’d want an inform player in your team whilst he’s confident and playing his best football…: I’m not bothered though because at least when we next play in the league we’ll have a fully fit sancho.Has he ever really fancied Sancho, it’s always felt like he picked him cause his Bundesliga form was irrefutable but I’ve never felt like he knows what to do with him.
When you loom at the forward players he’s gone for it’s clear there’s a certain archetype he goes for.
When you loom at the forward players he’s gone for it’s clear there’s a certain archetype he goes for.
Sancho has had about a month worth of decent form and been poor before that, the crying about him not being in the england squad is weird. Probably the same people who used to cry about AWB not being selected.
Southgate's selections across the board are horrible. How’s Tomori not making the side either?
I don’t even know where to begin with this post as you demonstrate a staggering lack of understanding as to how movement on the pitch creates space, and how lack thereof can make it easy to take a particular threat out. You also don’t seem to (want tounderstand how having quality players around you makes them attract attention in a completely different way than having lesser quality would.
We bought a player whose outstanding qualities were interplaying with his teammates and either playing the ball into runners or using the runs to create space for himself to beat a man since the run would draw one defender away.
Then we put him into a team that doesn’t have that sort of off-the-ball movement which leads to him being double-marked and then compare him to a completely different player and say he’s not worth the money we paid for him.
To put it plainly, it’s very easy to nullify a player with Sancho’s qualities (that we knew about when we bought him) if you don’t have players around him who can help him. If you buy a striker who’s scoring 99% if his goals from headers, and then put him in a team that crosses the ball 10 times in a season, surely you wouldn’t be surprised if his output went down, would you? Or would you then compare him to a 19-year old Michael Owen and say “why can’t he just do that and run in behind instead?”
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