Jadon Sancho | £72.9M fee agreed

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stefan92 said:
You can still negotiate and try to get a better deal. Dortmund likely will not lower the price (much) but might be open to some payment schedule/bonus payments.
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Not with Dortmund. It’s their rules or nuffink dontcha know?
 
Zero point in waiting on minute by minute updates. If it’s to be done it’ll be on deadline day or whatever artificial deadline constructs.
 
What are the chances we already agreed a fee for this window last year, hence the gentleman's agreement with Sancho.
 
Surely United will agree a fee this week?

They’ve clearly been leaking progress and our new recruitment team and general club runners are going to look inept if they can’t wrap up the longest saga in recent history soon
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Surely United will agree a fee this week?

They’ve clearly been leaking progress and our new recruitment team and general club runners are going to look inept if they can’t wrap up the longest saga in recent history soon
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Do we really expect them to announce his move a couple of days before he plays for England in a tournament?

We'll have to wait until after the Euros for this.
 
Dominos said:
Do we really expect them to announce his move a couple of days before he plays for England in a tournament?

We'll have to wait until after the Euros for this.
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I expect they should be able to agree a fee, considering they’ve been trying to sign him for 10 months and his price has dropped

Then just say they’ll do the personal terms and medical in due course
 
Surely we can agree a fee before the euros and announce it subject to medical and personal terms.

I know we are incompetent 99% of the time but we have had over a year for this one
 
marktan said:
I mean age only matters up to a point. There's lot of young talents that never improved. Neymar, Bale, Ronaldo all had breakout seasons in the ages of 20-23 when they turned into monsters. Will we see the same thing from Sancho in the next season or two? It's unlikely, if anything he's looked worse this past year than in the previous 2. Plus he's just not as either technically gifted as Neymar, or doesn't have the pace and acceleration of the other 2.

The reason I mention Mikhi and Kagawa is because I think talent wise he's closer to them than he is to the other 3. As I say though a lot depends on the next 2 seasons and if Sancho can improve his performance in a tougher league. A pretty big gamble for 90m.
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You're underrating his technical ability. And you're overstating what Neymar had accomplished by age 20, having just turned 21. I don't really have a problem with anyone saying Neymar is more talented than Sancho. I just don't think you can compare their careers at similar ages and conclude Neymar being on another level. Just look at players like Hazard and Neymar. It's not like they just came to the PL and La Liga and automatically delivered the same output as their previous seasons. They too had to adjust and then took a leap thereafter.

There is no guarantee Sancho takes that leap. However, I don't find it reasonable to conclude he can't make that leap.

Sancho has always been an elite talent like Foden, and the seasons he has had is not unexpected unlike say Rashford who did not look the same caliber of talent at age 16-17.
 
Acquire Me said:
Damn, I have not seen you before now. Good to see a fellow muppet :drool: The muppet crew are ready for muppet season.

It will happen this year. The muppet in me thinks before the Euros :)
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I am very happy to be here my fellow Muppet I should have tagged you also!

Very confident this year, more so than I ever was last year. I think we will have big news soon :drool: Muppet Team, Assemble!
 
laughtersassassin said:
Surely we can agree a fee before the euros and announce it subject to medical and personal terms.

I know we are incompetent 99% of the time but we have had over a year for this one
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Well the whole point is if Dortmund have had a dose of reality and dropped their price to something realistic.
 
Judas said:
It is a bit baffling that people still think our attack shouldn't be a priority still with the amount of toothless displays we put in last season. But oh well, this place never learns. If we went into next season strengthening other areas, and living the attack as it is, I'd not be confident going into next season.

The sad fact is we've got many areas that desperately need improvement.
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There is no doubt we need a creative outlet on the RW but do you not think if we could control games better in CM that would mean we wouldn't have to keep giving away leads and having to produce comeback wins so much
 
croadyman said:
There is no doubt we need a creative outlet on the RW but do you not think if we could control games better in CM that would mean we wouldn't have to keep giving away leads and having to produce comeback wins so much
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Of course, it’s another massive priority. That’s my point. It’s not one position fixes all with this squad.
 
lenny_1248 said:
RW, DM, CB. And that would be a perfect window.
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The trouble is that Utd seem very willing to sacrifice DM for a backup RB which suggests no targets outside of Rice at all and because they have been priced out for him they are looking for some squad depth instead
 
Powderfinger said:
You need to score more goals but for me the real question is this one:

Is the problem that the front four is not talented enough (or does not provide enough options)? Or is the real problem that United do not have tactics and players that can adequately support the front four (ie, the fullbacks and central midfielders).

Honestly, I think it is the latter. United regularly line up with two CMs that don't offer a lot in the final third, a RB that is a liability going forward, and a fantastic all-rounder LB who is decent in attack but not a truly elite threat down the left. You can have Messi, Ronaldo, Mbappe, and KDB as your front four and they will struggle to score goals against a well trained defense with 10 men behind the ball unless they are supported by other dangerous players - fullbacks who can put in a cross and combine well to overload the flanks, midfielders who can make a killer pass to break the lines or late runs into the box, etc.

I think if you bought a new CB and CDM that were elite athletes and defenders in space - who could give Ole the confidence to play higher risk football, to send more players forward and/or to play with Pogba in CM more often - you would do more for the attack than by buying a new RW.
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Hating agreeing with a gooner but you do make a very valid point there about those being the key positions
 
RUCK4444 said:
Yeah sure, I mean that's down to interpretation, most pundits and fans refer to them as four 'top strikers.' Keane mentioned this the other day on Sky when somebody questioned his opinion that we should sign Grealish, they said we already have Rasford on the left, Keano mentioned the four 'top strikers' in the 99 team and that a top team has options and effective options.

We don't need four players for every position on the pitch but Sancho and Amad for the RW would be fine, imo at least. Otherwise what if Sancho gets injured? Mata or James? No thanks (and I quite like those players) because you won't win the league with poor cover. It's why we've improved for large parts of the season only to dip in form massively whenever forced to rotate.

CB, DM, RW and ST are the problem areas. We definitely need a top level CB to partner Maguire, we definitely need a top level (ACTUAL) DM because Matic is done, we definitely need Sancho. So in theory (imo) Ole is three signings away from completing his rebuild (if you discount the ST position and put faith in Greenwood.)

I think we've improved the overall squad quality and style-wise we are in a vastly improved place for what the majority of fans want to see from a United team and in relation to where we want to be eventually - it's a much better heading. Whether we have gotten the best out of the players is up for debate, comfortably second is not what I want but I suppose it's improvement. I'll back Ole until we go backwards, imo it's been slow but steady improvement. If a world class elite manager was waiting in the wings I would consider our options but that's not the case, so I stick with slow and steady improvement. I think most trust Ole at least on the rebuilding side of things, I want to see the club back him fully this summer and reassess things during the season.
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Sure, agreed on effective. And I don't think it's a problem to have quality in depth, it's of course much needed. I just think if it ends up being Greenwood and Sancho for the right wing, and Martial still slugging it out with Cavani for the spot up top, Amad will miss out on the playing time he definitely will need. So hopefully, if Sancho ends up coming, Greenwood will be deployed as a striker, with Amad getting minutes when Sancho is rested.

I'm in the same boat when it comes to the positions that need fixing, but then I look at our midfield and compare it to any great team now or before, and it's as clear as day that we need two midfielders. I think I'd go for a new midfield with passing ability and technical competence over any other position at the moment, even though we seriously need a centre back and another attacking player on the right.

Pogba doesn't fit there, Bruno won't fit there, Donny doesn't suit Ole's style at all, and McTominay and Fred are just way too limited to be first XI players in a side that dominates (and opens up defenses, playing at a high tempo).
 
What are these lasts tweets about the £80 million plus add-on?
Last summer the price for Sancho was £103 million.
Now they are talking about £80m PLUS add-ons....
So if the add-ons will be around £10-15 million, then the price hasn't really dropped? How that can be? :)
 
Can7onA said:
This going to sound like an ITK statement..................

I play an on-line game with Thomas Delaney, he says he's the best player he's ever played with and says there is no doubt he could do it at any of the top clubs. Says he doesn't know anything about transfers though.
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Haha..what online game is that? Just find it funny that you know its Delaney who is playing. (I am not doubting you, just saying)
 
Pexbo said:
Or... they have?
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And let’s not forget that we aren’t negotiating with ourselves. Dortmund were fighting for CL until the end if the season. Securing it means they have a better bargaining position. So likely they didn’t want to negotiate until then.
 
simonhch said:
And let’s not forget that we aren’t negotiating with ourselves. Dortmund were fighting for CL until the end if the season. Securing it means they have a better bargaining position. So likely they didn’t want to negotiate until then.
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And Dortmund don’t want to be negotiating for his successor with articles stating that they have just pocketed 85m circulating world press
 
mav_9me said:
Haha..what online game is that? Just find it funny that you know its Delaney who is playing. (I am not doubting you, just saying)
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Mainly because I was speaking to him for 3 months before he said who he was, he played it down at first and then just said he was a footballer at Dortmund, I totally thought he was a youth player or something but then we were chatting one night and I was taking the piss saying he will make it eventually and he told me who he was. He's such a normal bloke and didn't want the bullshit as you can imagine but if someone asks him he's honest but it's just courtesy to not ask him loads of shit questions.

If he's taking the piss he's playing the long game! I've been playing with him for about 2 years :D And if you heard him it's without a doubt him, crazy half Danish half German accent.

He was straight up about Sancho though, he's awesome.
 
Not even particularly excited about signing him.

It's like I processed his signing last summer so have already fully mentally adjusted to him playing for us.
 
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