Jadon Sancho | £72.9M fee agreed
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No, the excitement is just a byproduct of the transfer market signings. Clubs don't make transfers to entertain people during off season.
Gary never used the term entertainment, he just said the saga was boring. Which it was. Anyone in their right mind knows it was drawn out and boring, so quit being sensitive about someone sharing their feelings about it being so. He's not the only one saying it, guys who recycle news for a living on skysports have even gone on air saying they really can't wait for the end of this because they're tired of it too.
Today is my birthday... I stopped caring about it ages ago and don't really like the fact that I'm getting older. I don't want attention, just wanna treat it like any other day... But today I'd love to get some attention from the club. A gift in announcing Sancho! Big day today
Happy birthday! They will throw a few extra million in the offer this weekend just for you, I’m sure of it! Hope you have a good one
Clearly you don't know what happened last summer.
If you think, naively, that we just walked away from the 120m eur price and never tried to have a long drawn out process of haggling it down, then youre just refusing to accept reality. You're basically explaining what clubs like Chelsea or Liverpool did when they were interested for him. We didn't do that.
It was United for Sancho pretty much all window until we really panicked and realized we can't bring them down, we tried to pursue with intermediaries and agree personal terms, we tried to sort out fee structures and the works knowing the price was something we weren't willing to pay. We called their bluff and lost. It's that simple.
Not at all, but you could ask what the point is in moaning about certain aspects of the club from last year, when changes have been put in place since then..
We perused him because he was clearly our number 1 target.
In your situation, we could’ve moved on to our 2nd choice target and then been left this year to watch Sancho join another team for 30m less.. Can you honestly say that you don’t think the club would have received criticism in that case?
Did you actually listen to what Zorc said? We never negotiated with them last summer. We were told the price and date early on and he said multiple time that we had not been in contact, had not made a bid, were not negotiating and if we did want to make an offer we knew where to start.
It’s a massive difference to this summer where we have actually made a big and are actually negotiating.
I’d love to see you provide any evidence of your claims.
If another club was willing to bid what we're bidding now for Sancho, you'd hear it. I don't think there's a club out there that wants to put in that much for him because they either can't afford him or are already well stocked in the wider areas.
As for the what's the point in moaning - you have to remember it's just a tweet. He didn't rant, he hasn't put out a whole article lambasting the club. He just put out a sentence about his thoughts around the whole saga being so long that it sapped the excitement out of it (clearly from a fan perspective). He also said its important to think about what's next.
You can say "oh what's the point in saying that" but just look at the context - it's fecking twitter and these guys share their thoughts all the time around footballing matters. Why posters are getting so sensitive about it I don't understand - half of them have bought into making this thread a parody and showing gifs from Groundhog day, insinuating it's boring as feck themselves.
We ar wery closh
Fair point. I just thought it was funny because they mean basically the same thing to me. That's a bit rich from the 24hr news cycle lads on Sky though. All they do is repeat themselves constantly
Dortmund dealt with 3rd party intermediaries, Zorc never directly heard from the club because we never got to an acceptable stage of liaising with him on final stages. To insinuate that we just walked away from Sancho as a target early on is just naivety, I'm sorry to say . If you want to see an example of us not going for a player and ending interest for the window - see how De Ligt went down. Briefs were out from our side to let the media know that it's all off. All the credible outlets like BBC/Athletic/Luckhurst said United have cooled their interest, because they did.
This never happened with Sancho because we were out there trying to agree terms and push for fee structures so it gets to a stage where they can pass the third party process and agree a fee. Of course, nothing was agreed with the club so nothing was bid. Google is your best friend - I don't need to "provide evidence" to show water is wet.
Here's a strongly credible article from Athletic that showed how it went down: https://theathletic.co.uk/2115449/2020/10/06/manchester-united-jadon-sancho-transfer-window/
United banked on Dortmund accepting that selling to them for a discounted fee would be their best bet, but the German side never picked up the phone and were left bemused as to how United got the idea Sancho would cost less than £108m, given that had been the message all along.
As much as some fans don’t want to hear it Sancho is going to be playing on the left as much as anywhere else. Amad will be developed on the right when Greenwood goes central. There’ll probably always be an odd one out like martial this season but that not a problem at a big club. It’s better to be buying and selling from a position of strength than always playing catch up.
The difference between De Ligt and Sancho is that one had agreements in place with another club and the other was keen to join United and was happy to wait for the right moment.
The press continued with the Sancho/United story last year because they knew the club and player were keen on each other and they knew the story generates clicks.
The closest comparison to this deal is Ronaldo to Madrid in 2009 after being told that he would be staying with us for another year but had a gentleman’s agreement to leave the following summer.
Invest in another much needed position?
As of right now our first 11 still needs a CB a CDM and a RW.
Surely if we wanted to wait for Sancho you shift focus to another much needed position?
The press continued nothing. If you're trying to suggest journalists like Laurie Whitwell for Athletic and other genuine sources are merely clickbait then you simply don't have a clue.
I've given the evidence you're after from top sources that show that we pursued him all summer, and Dortmund never picked up the phone to entertain because our fee suggestions weren't meeting the mark.
That's what happened, so either quit burying your head in the sand or quit being so sensitive about other people rightly saying the saga was longer than it should have been.
I actually feel sorry for Sancho. Germany hold him in high regard but England don't play him. He is told he is worth X but Utd don't want to pay it. I get the feeling that his moral will be crushed and when he eventually signs for Utd he will be a shadow of his former self. The pressure must be huge. I hope he doesn't crawl inside himself after this nonsense.
It clearly is a moan. We’re on the brink of signing one of the brightest prospects in world football and we have 4.5m followers tweeting about how boring it is and how he’s not excited. Days after tweeting a picture of our new shirt, moaning about that too. Of course it’s dragged on, it got boring, but now it’s actually happening, how can you not be excited?!
And of course we’re already looking at other areas. We’ve been intensely linked with Varane and Trippier already this summer and it’s still June.
And I’m not buying for a single second that nobody else is in for Sancho at 77m. Most likely they were told by his agent that he was going to United.
Gary confirmed for transfer muppet. He’s lurking in the Varane thread now that this is pretty much done.
Of course he's right. It's drawn out and boring, and guys on skysports said the same. He even says it's not the players fault, and we should look at whose next.
Some posters are just stupidly sensitive and hypocritical, given a lot of them insinuated it was boring themselves with parody posts and gifs from groundhog day.
If we go by this every player morale will be crushed. There is always negotiations in any transfer.
He's not excited because its been close forever and almost a given now. The saga was very long, and that sapped the excitement out of it.
He doesn't say the transfer itself is bad or the payment is not right. He's saying he's not excited. A lot of fans aren't really excited at this stage. I'm not, I want to see whose next because the sancho signing was a given, and if it wasn't him it was always going to be a Grealish or Kane pursuit.
Fair point and in my ‘what were we supposed to do’ was purely in relation to Sancho and Dortmund sticking to their price last year.
Last summers window was poor. I’m not trying to defend it. But changes have been made within the club and this summer is already better
if we come out of this summer sill lacking a CDM and a CB, and we don’t challenge or win anything next season, then there is every right to complain
We hear all the time that it can weigh on some players who come in for massive transfer fees and off the back of excellent performances elsewhere.
Sancho coming in to a team for what seems like a reasonable fee and after what looks like being an understated euros will surely mean there isn't much pressure on him at all.
From your breakdown, it would make Rashford the odd one out, more than Martial, and I just don’t see that being likely tbh.
You haven’t given any evidence. You’ve name dropped.
I see Rashford as more of a provider from the right. He gets more assists out there. If we are setting up to feed a striker with a fluid front line I think he’ll be played on the right quite a lot. Martial looks to be on the way out so Cavani and Greenwood can rotate striker. 4d chess but maybe that leaves a space for Haaland or someone like him next year when Cavani bows out.
There’ll be enough minutes for Amad.
I wouldn’t say it’s dragged on longer than it should have, not in this case.
We’ve got him for a LOT less this summer and Dortmund were asking silly money during the pandemic. They were basically trying to take us to the cleaners to help fund their buy-cheap-sell-high business model.
Thinking on it I’m happy we didn’t throw 100 million plus at them, it’s would have ultimately affected our spending this summer and lined their cringey pockets.
This thread is more moody than euphoric. What gives?
Happy Sancho day!
Happy we looked to have finally got him but until we get the CB & DM needed for the first XI won't be fully content
So you’re enjoying the Sancho transfer saga are you?
He’s just saying what we are all thinking
I think this is true. The social media age and oversaturation of tweets kind of blunts the excitement by the time most deals go through now.
That said, Neville is being a misery if he doesn't feel any kind of excitement about Sancho. He's one of the very best young players in the game.
If you're asking for evidence of utd chasing Sancho until the dying moments of last year's window - https://www.skysports.com/football/...iteds-91-3m-bid-rejected-by-borussia-dortmund
Today is my birthday... I stopped caring about it ages ago and don't really like the fact that I'm getting older. I don't want attention, just wanna treat it like any other day... But today I'd love to get some attention from the club. A gift in announcing Sancho! Big day today
Happy birthday mate.
Look at my post again. I gave an article from Athletic.
He's not talking about just this summer though. It's a transfer that's dragged over 2 windows. 99% of the frustration is how went about things last summer.
Let the kid focus on his tournament. Then we can sign those papers and the whole shebang. This is likely one of the reasons he isn't bein picked; it's a distraction.
tbf United fans could have spared themselves a lot of grey hair in this saga if they hadn't irrationally and militantly refused to acknowledge simple, clear and unequivocal statements of the selling club last summer
Ha, I think we may be the same person. I thought he'd be a proper player. I'll also chuck Seth Johnson into the mix there. Thought he'd be class. He wasn't.
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