In fairness we are, we're failing on a magnitude other clubs could only dream of.
Jadon Sancho | £72.9M fee agreed
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Maybe good man Joel will pay the extra 10mil out of his dividends (pocket). I hear he loves the club and will never let it go.
Swiss Ramble said our revenues are likely to be lower than Liverpool and City this year due to the Chevrolet deal being extended for 50% less and no Matchday revenue. We’d have to structure it creatively and maybe Dortmund aren’t playing ball.
This guy a joke.
He's still denying a second bid went in even after he said himself it had earlier in the day. Why do we even give this guy any kind of attention, he's clearly a bullshitter of the highest order
And if you carry on, it's followed by Mama Mia.
I am 100 percent convinced it’ll happen still, but it literally could be anytime knowing us, could be weeks and weeks away, or tonight.
I’m basically saying, just to be safe it’s Sancho Day every day.
I’m basically saying, just to be safe it’s Sancho Day every day.
Has any high profile player at the Euros signed to a new club whilst there?
To be honest you were super convinced last season as well.
As I should have been! It was an obvious signing.
Memphis to Barca and Donnarumma had his medical with PSG but still not officially announced.
To be honest, it's only Jan that's spitting this crap out. He said the other day a new bid has gone in then later on in the day he said nothing new is happening.
He doesn't have a clue and due to no updates in the past few days he's just trying to keep everything going. He's not stupid, he knows negative news will keep the United fans hooked. He's no more of clue of what's going on than we do.
Memphis/Wijnaldum. But they were transfer free to be honest.
Nothing is going to happen while England are still in the Euros. Weren't we just told that we wouldn't see any business until July? You guys are all crazy.
I know, It looks like most of these journalists actually have no clue what's going on but have to tweet about Sancho to stay relevant. Its the only thing that gives them retweets and likes.
We just have to wait and see really what the club do.
So what?
Paul Scholes always played second fiddle to Lampard & Gerrard, who cares, he was utterly priceless for United.
What about Michael Carrick..?
Not much of an England career, fantastic United career though.
Spot on
It's stupid because people take the negative news as gospel truth and as soon as anything positive comes out, it's all rubbish. If there was anything to report others would be reporting it. This is pretty much Jan's opinion on things, he just adds "the feeling in Dortmund is" to make it seem like he has a clue. Wish he'd just stay quiet but he knows he needs to keep himself relevent
Are we really going to miss out on him again.....
OK cheers. Just wondering if we'd want a marquee signing to go through whilst all the attention is away from the club. Trying to think of when a 'statement' signing has been made discreetly.
Yeah, I too thought he had accepted that a second bid was put in.
Seeing as Dortmund are still considering our second bid (as nothing to the contrary has come out aside from Berger and Jan who I don't trust), there's nothing to suggest we will at the moment
He did say a new improved bid had gone in then put to be continued... went quiet for the rest of the day then posted that there was no new info and no movement since our first rejected bid.
Even Berger who said originally that no new bid had gone in retracted that and corrected himself saying a new bid HAD gone in but then added that it wasn't enough for Dortmund, yet they've not rejected it as of yet.
Simple fact is, neither of them know anything worthwhile and it's all guesswork and opinion on their side
Just to debunk the thing I keep reading about his national team stats...
Sancho has 914 minutes total for England, equivalent of 10 matches. He had 3 goals and 5 assists in those minutes, or 114 minutes per goal or assist.
Sterling as a comparison has played 4631 minutes, with 16 goals and 22 assists, or 121.86 minutes per goal or assist.
Foden has 532 minutes with 2 goals and 2 assists, or 133 minutes per goal or assist.
Rashford has 2143 minutes, 12 goals and 6 assists, or 119 minutes per goal or assist.
Saka has 482 minutes, 1 goal and 1 assist, or 241 minutes per goal or assist.
Grealish has 573 minutes with 0 goals and 3 assists, or 191 minutes per goal or assist.
So if we're going off productivity for the national team, Sancho has outproduced all of his peers on a per minute basis. Rashford 2nd. Sterling 3rd. Foden 4th. Grealish 5th. Saka 6th.
It's not a trap. Sancho literally is "a world beater". He's up there with the very best in the world when it comes to being a creative wide player. And he scores plenty of goals to boot. And he's shown it since he was 18.
Literally the only metric where he's outperformed by the others in the national team, and likely why he isn't playing, are his defensive stats. The only one. He doesn't provide much in terms of pressing/tracking back and is better left in attack to initiate counters. Rashford isn't great at it either and likely why he hasn't played much. And that's a Southgate thing, and picking based on the defensive work rate rather than what they can do in attack is why England have had like 5 shots on target in 3 games but also only conceded about the same. Which is fine, up to him. But don't make it out like Sancho is playing in some easy league. Grealish was in the championship until he was almost 24. Didn't exactly light it up a crazy amount in that time.
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Errrr, no....You believe the medical is holding up the transfer?
Wouldn’t it be amazing if the next so called “update” from these fecking attention seeking bluffers like Jan and Romano was met with absolutely zero response? No replies, no likes, no retweets, just allow it to slowly fade away into nothingness where it belongs. Not that it will ever happen, too many muppets around(myself included)
Could be but at the same time I think it’s more likely that we know Dortmund need the Sancho cash before they can spend this summer so we are holding out to see who blinks first.
We have to factor in other acquisitions and what they might be costing, one no doubt affects the other.
I can't remember any other club reenact the same transfer saga two years on a row, we really do do things in the market other clubs can't
Hmm, think I have to change my normal one to
Big day today.
Big day today.
Bit rich from his "sources" saying we don't have the funds. They can't do anything without selling one of their players, so it's a touch rich (ironically).
pretty sure we're fine for the funding.
Whether we think the funding (i.e. the price) is an acceptable amount is another question
I agree
We're fine and could pay, negotiations will be happening, but they're not going fast enough for Jan here... he needs to keep these desperate United fans on his twitter feed. Simple fact is there will be little to report, so he's just tweeting random crap to keep himself relevant. If/when a deal is agreed, he'll twist it saying "things happened very very quickly" etc.
Roundabout
As United fans we are used to the preparing a bid phase, not so much the considering a [received] bid. Seems that considering takes just as long as preparing.
Fjortoft as always trying add too much spice to the transfer soup.
I actually think Dortmund's bluff is there to be called this summer, within reason.
Sancho clearly wants the move, and it's obvious how much clubs' finances have been impacted the past 18 months.
Even if they kept Sancho another year, they will lose both him and Haaland in the same window for way less than they'd have liked.
They can be as firm and noble as they want, they'll be majorly screwed in 12 months if they don't sell Sancho this summer. It's clear no-one else is in for him either. We'd be mad to not negotiate.
Sancho clearly wants the move, and it's obvious how much clubs' finances have been impacted the past 18 months.
Even if they kept Sancho another year, they will lose both him and Haaland in the same window for way less than they'd have liked.
They can be as firm and noble as they want, they'll be majorly screwed in 12 months if they don't sell Sancho this summer. It's clear no-one else is in for him either. We'd be mad to not negotiate.
I think forget Sancho, United should do a cheeky bid of 100m plus Martial for Mbappe.
This saga is definitely feeling like the next Wesley Sneijder.
If he does join, he better start like a house on fecking fire after all this effort.
40 goals and assists please
40 goals and assists please
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