Nobody really knows how short we are, other than the fact that we are indeed short. Once we start brushing up against Dortmund's mid-July deadline, we'll probably see it get over the line one way or another.
Jadon Sancho | £72.9M fee agreed
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Nobody really knows how short we are, other than the fact that we are indeed short. Once we start brushing up against Dortmund's mid-July deadline, we'll probably see it get over the line one way or another.
No, they did not change anything. In Lewandowskis and Götzes moves they couldn't do anything against it because one was out of contract and the other one used his release clause. Hummels is the only exception. His contract was about to run out (1 year) and he decided he wanted to join Bayern (his youth club). So Bayern offered a fair sum for him and also Dortmund got Götze and Rode in exchange. So this was certainly better than losing him for free a year later.
If you guys want to critisise someone for buying BVB players, it's certainly should not be Bayern, but the Premier League (and Manchester United specifically).
I think people are always going to have a chip on their shoulder with Dortmund selling players to Bayern. They assisted them in their domination of the Bundesliga.
BDL always needs to defend this which is strange because no fans of Premier league teams would do the same.
BDL always needs to defend this which is strange because no fans of Premier league teams would do the same.
Yeah, because it's fecking fake news you're spreading. Claiming something that is factually wrong has the tendency to summon people correcting you. At least here in Germany
On my way to see the transfer thread
Which I bookmarked on my phone (owh)
As I scrolled through the page
It must have been about quarter past three
In front of me
Stood a Romano Report that personal terms were agreed
I asked him for an Update
He said it'd cost me a paywall
A retweet and a favourite for every Clickbait.
Did Sancho decline? No
Didn't he sign? I don't think so
Was it for real? Damn sure
What was the deal? Personal Terms Agreed, Here we go...
So was he keen? He couldn't wait
Did he burst on the scene? let me update
What did Romano say? He said he'd love to
Make-do
Update the fans on what we were gonna do
Said we'd start with a €65 offer without add-ons and argue
Monday
Clicked on the RedCafe thread on Tuesday
Pexbo told me it was a big day on Wednesday
And on Thursday and Friday and Saturday
We were €10M apart on Sunday
I clicked on the Redcafe thread on Monday
No new reports on Tuesday
Pexbo told me it was a big day on Wednesday
And on Thursday and Friday and Saturday
We were €10M apart on Sunday
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And that's why I don't get that people are so nervous in here. I mean, I don't want Sancho to join United but it's very likely at this point. What are the chances that you would let this transfer slip through your hands because of €10m? I know that United's decision making on the transfer market has been a little bit confusing but not to this extent. The clubs will most likely reach an agreement sooner or later. I only see two possibilities of this not going through:
a) United misjudge Dortmund's position again and remain firm even after their deadline
b) The player changes his mind, possibly after another club joins the conversation
Both are highly unlikely IMO.
We've only bought Kagawa and Mhiki from Dortmund iirc or am i missing someone?
BDL president
I'll take the tagline gladly ("loutish BDL rapscallion", I mean)
For those (largely German) fans continually referencing old transfers (Dembele, Pulisic, Havertz) as justification for Dortmund's position, is the sense in Germany really that clubs are fine, that Covid has had no impact on revenues and that teams are going straight back to huge prices?
That appears to be the position, but I've not seen the signings around Europe in Jan or this summer to suggest it's true.
United are, in the end, required to not make huge losses as our owners will never 'bail us out'. So we can only spend a certain amount, and that amount has to be impacted by the decrease in revenue due to Covid. Same is true of 99% of clubs.
The only clubs that are talking about big deals are those that don't need to use their revenues to survive. There aren't enough of those about for them to be the benchmark. Personally, I think it's just the media and the nature of fans now. Bigger numbers become the 'true' figure even as they keep growing, even after signings are made and official fees disclosed.
That appears to be the position, but I've not seen the signings around Europe in Jan or this summer to suggest it's true.
United are, in the end, required to not make huge losses as our owners will never 'bail us out'. So we can only spend a certain amount, and that amount has to be impacted by the decrease in revenue due to Covid. Same is true of 99% of clubs.
The only clubs that are talking about big deals are those that don't need to use their revenues to survive. There aren't enough of those about for them to be the benchmark. Personally, I think it's just the media and the nature of fans now. Bigger numbers become the 'true' figure even as they keep growing, even after signings are made and official fees disclosed.
I'll take the tagline gladly ("loutish BDL rapscallion", I mean)
wont be announced until the new shirt is released
the hope will kill you
Amongst that wall of text which I didn’t really read, you don’t want Sancho to join United when it could obviously weaken one of your rivals especially for a European spot? Why?
If you want to follow Sancho’s career, you could watch and follow United too
We will get sancho, the issue is that we are being screwed by the Glazers and the club. They have somehow conned fans into believing Jadon is this years big money signing, when we saved the money for him from last year, then tehy are conning fans into believing we might buy Varane, or a CDM, when the fact is that we will end up with a bang average CB like Ben White and no CDM
this is amazing. Great job.
Apparently last year’s summer budget was brought forward and spent on Bruno in January
Also we won’t be buying Ben White
we definitely wont be buying Varane, Kounde or Torres, so keep a look out for Ben White or someone of his ilk.
Case can be argued for Varane but what basis are you using for us not signing Kounde or Torres? There's even a reliable report out today that steps are being made to sign the latter we've not been linked to Mings or White(who's Arsenal bound) at all at all
Smacks of a statement made out of uncalled Negativity
I'm hoping we go for Christian Romero. Looks better suited to the prem in my opinion and bags of potential at a reasonable price point.
I feel sorry for you. I bet when he talks to people his sentences always begin with Re: Sancho.
He's definitely better than anyone United can put at right-wing right now so I understand the push for him. I'm just saying he's not really impressed me when outside the comforts of the Dortmund setup (which is notoriously kind to attackers at the expense of their defenders). He'll definitely improve your right wing though.
Literally none of that has happen yet, so stay calm and positive mate
Was he as positive last summer as he is now?
The standard of updates this saga truly deserves
No, all it tells you is what an idiot England have as manager.
Get a room you two.<3
It was two minutes five minutes ago
Southgate is a boyhood United fan isn't he? Could explain why he's resting Sancho to keep him fresh for the upcoming preseason, all while singlehandedly trying to butcher England's chances so Jadon can go home and wrap the deal up. Top red
He clearly is. You're being very, very selective there, his time in the Championship isn't really relevant - it's what he's shown in the premier League. His calibre of play, passes, dribbles and goals scored, have been of a higher level to what Sancho has shown. He beats more men and draws more fouls, and his passing range in the league is second only to Pogba and De Bruyne.
You say Grealish has never reached 20 assists + goals in a season and note the being the main creator point, but ignore where I said their main strikers were injured. I watch pretty much all of their last 10 games that season, he created loads of chances they just didn't have the finish. He had 14 G+As that season, and 18 this season with an actual striker in Watkins, and that despite missing 10 games.
Anyway the comparison with the Dortmund team is stupid, you put Grealish in there he easily gets the same numbers Sancho does. The question is if you put Sancho into the Villa team does he have the same impact and the answer is no.
Again this isn't just based off stat padding from the Bundesliga but actually watching the two players. There's a reason why City are interested in signing him for £100m+ and not Sancho who is available at a lower price. It's likely both will be in the premier League before long and you'll see which is the better player. I mean I don't disagree that Sancho is a very good player, and can improve more as he is young, but at this stage one is very much the better player, and more proven in the premier League.
Sancho has a history with City/Guardiola and apparently did not leave on the best terms. It is no wonder that City would prefer to sign someone who doesn't have this history Sancho has there.
And also it is obviously true that Sancho and Grealish have a bit different playing style and one might fit better for a certain wanted profile than the other.
But if you say that Grealish is more proven than Sancho I just have to agree with Hansi - while both have a similar amount of games in the top national leagues (Sancho with much better stats in a bit weaker league), only Sancho is proven at the highest stage of club football, while Grealish never appeared in the CL.
I did see very little of Grealish so far and therefore have to trust your observation regarding the quality of his scoring. But when he is so much better than Sancho, why does he score so rarely? Sounds to me a bit like he is massively lacking the consistency in his output that Sancho has proven now for years.
We seem to be doing 150 a year for the last few years. If we spend 75 on Sancho I think there will probably be another 75 for the other positions hopefully plus what we recoup from sales. Varane 50 and maybe 50 plus Jesse for Rice if we push the boat out to 175. I’d rather sell Lingard to the highest bidder and we should get 25 for him. Put it towards Camavinga with another 25 and you have your magic £150 million again. Either way we are definitely spending a lot building this team for Ole. I don’t think fans will have any legit complaints about investment in the team after this summer….
With another 2/3 new players Ole almost has a full new team bought. No excuses left. I feel like a long term striker and another world class potential midfielder next summer are the final pieces of this never ending jigsaw. If Ole gets Sancho and Varane I think we win the league or go very very close. We could also be the surprise package in the CL. I’ll be having a few quid on us in both anyway. I got a decent run for my money at 40-1 after Spurs in the league last year. I think anything over 5-1 will be value for the team who came second and added Sancho and Varane. Sancho and Varane lads
With another 2/3 new players Ole almost has a full new team bought. No excuses left. I feel like a long term striker and another world class potential midfielder next summer are the final pieces of this never ending jigsaw. If Ole gets Sancho and Varane I think we win the league or go very very close. We could also be the surprise package in the CL. I’ll be having a few quid on us in both anyway. I got a decent run for my money at 40-1 after Spurs in the league last year. I think anything over 5-1 will be value for the team who came second and added Sancho and Varane. Sancho and Varane lads
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I watch Home In the Sun a lot and you’d be amazed how many people will let their dream home go because of 2k
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