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Jack Wilshere
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Btw.. Is he fit or injured?
Well fit.
One of the many reasons England has been so utterly shite for the last decade or so seems to be some of our really talented youngsters seem to have a fatal flaw in there game (usually injury prone) and stagnate and actually go backwards, often as over hyped too. Micah Richards, Phil Jones, Jack Rodwell are some that spring to mind. I dont think WIlshire actually was over hyped, he has genuine talent but his injury record and apparent attitude has let him down big time, was a superb teenager, sad really he should be pulling all the strings in midfield for club and country by now.
Makes it all the more impressive how well Shaws is doing so far given his injury record since being with us, lets hope he can stay injury free as he really has world class potential
Makes it all the more impressive how well Shaws is doing so far given his injury record since being with us, lets hope he can stay injury free as he really has world class potential
His attitude is fine. Always gives his all, often to a fault.
Starting 46 times in his first full season in senior football as a teenager might have ruined him. His body was not ready for that type of workload and he is still feeling the effects.
That really could be true. Some bodies just can't take it. Not to mention he seems like the kind of kid that would of played through injury at that age, risking further damage.
Wenger's british plan is going tits up isn't it?
Welbeck and Wilshere forever injured. Gibbs and Chambers a bit shit. Ox and Walcott inconsistent. I suppose the only saving grace is Ramsey but then he performs a lot better for Wales than Arsenal for some reason.
Welbeck and Wilshere forever injured. Gibbs and Chambers a bit shit. Ox and Walcott inconsistent. I suppose the only saving grace is Ramsey but then he performs a lot better for Wales than Arsenal for some reason.
Chambers and Welbeck weren't part of the "British core". The others are at various stages of disappointing.
Reason being that Wales play him in his best position instead of out wide or in a holding role.
just what he needs
Haha no thanks.
No chance Lampard and Gerrard were ever at the level of Scholes. He was a cut above most midfielders.
Its for the best that he goes somewhere and actually tries to get some game time. Was super talented when he first came on the scene but those injuries have really fooked his career. Hopefully he can get back to his best as there is a hell of a player in there.
Not as a central midfielder. Both of them were at their best in attacking roles. Indeed, I blame Gerrard never achieving his potential down to the fact that he tried so hard to play central midfield instead of making use of his best attributes further forward. He was capable of absolute brilliance in midfield, but he was far too inconsistent in that position to play it for a top team.
Gerrard and lampard had just as good as careers as Scholes. They where midfielders I don't care if it was an 8,10 or 6. Some of the guys on here are just being biased.
I can't remember Scholes winning an fa cup final on his own or scoring in a champions league final or even taking an important penalty.
The point was reach their heights like Scholes excelled to a greater height.. That just isn't true. Those 3 along with Vieira and Keane are one of the greatest EPL midfielders of all time.
I can't remember him slipping on his arse costing his team a chance to win a championship after 20 odd years either.
My Arsenal supporting mate is so enraged by this decision that he's posted Ivan Gazidis's (Arsenal Chief exec) direct line on social media so that he'll get calls from similar minded enraged Gooners 
I hope he does well to be honest and this move was needed.
His talent is unquestionable but he just cannot get any decent run of games. Maybe his luck will turn away from Arsenal.
His talent is unquestionable but he just cannot get any decent run of games. Maybe his luck will turn away from Arsenal.
Scholes took (and missed) our second penalty in the 2005 FA Cup Final and wasn't on the field for the 2008 Champions League Final shootout so you're being unfair in that criticism.
He also hasn't had about 35 shots on goal in one FA Cup Final either, preferring to play for the team instead of himself....
He also hasn't had about 35 shots on goal in one FA Cup Final either, preferring to play for the team instead of himself....
I seen Zidane headbutt a brother in his chest and pretty much cost his national team from winning a World Cup. Maybe he didn't reach the heights of Andrea Pirlo looking back...
Lol that's like saying Ronaldo's 50 goals should be taken with a pinch of salt because it took him about 250 shots to get there. Yeah he took the penalty and missed! They never. I'm not criticising just saying they will all have faults it's natural they are not the greatest of all time but.. I don't agree that they didn't have similar playing careers successes. If Wilshere was to match either 3 of those he would have to sit in the same category.
Who you pick in your best XI is up to you and yes I'm not arguing who is the better player.
Hull should try to sign him, Hart and Morrison......they would actually have a decent side
Ill stick my neck out and say we'll never see him in an Arsenal shirt again. He'll go to a mid table outfit where he will find his level. He hasn't looked like he'd make it in a top team since he was 18.
Spends too much time on the treatment table to play football at a decent level.
His career is a bit of a letdown so far, but injuries are to blame for that. He's genuinely talented and is clearly a grafter, he just needs bit of luck with his fitness.
He's a little shit, but nobody wants to see a promising career go to waste.
A loan might not be a bad move at all. If he can stay fit and get some regular game time then both he (and England) will be all the better for it.
He's a little shit, but nobody wants to see a promising career go to waste.
A loan might not be a bad move at all. If he can stay fit and get some regular game time then both he (and England) will be all the better for it.
Scrappy Doo would be proud of such a hot headed moveMy Arsenal supporting mate is so enraged by this decision that he's posted Ivan Gazidis's (Arsenal Chief exec) direct line on social media so that he'll get calls from similar minded enraged Gooners
More than 5 year ago, Guardiola:
He's gonna go on loan and get injured again anyway, not sure what the fuss is.
Wilshere to go on loan and Win Champions League before Arsenal
How the mighty have fallen.....
He was a key component of a team that won 11 PL titles and 2 CL titles across his career (bagging the winning and only goal against Barca in the Semi for one of those runs), I also remember him scoring many other key goals on the way to various pieces of silverware over the years (Didn't he score the winning goal in a semi vs Arsenal on the way to beating Millwall in an FA Cup final?)
He was also seen by his peers as the best CM of the PL era - Xavi and Henry definitely made that claim. Rather than point to flashy pieces of skill or eye catching goals his main strength that set him aside was that he was technically brilliant in all areas of midfield, with an unrivalled passing range, ability to retain and move the ball, and dictate the play like no other English midfielder in the last 20 years.
He was clearly a better player than Gerrard and Lampard with all bias aside. His only weakness to speak of was his propensity to be too aggressive in the tackle.
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I seen Zidane headbutt a brother in his chest and pretty much cost his national team from winning a World Cup. Maybe he didn't reach the heights of Andrea Pirlo looking back...
Problem is that both Pirlo and Zidane won WC whereas Slippy didn't win Premier League and on top of that he slipped.
I don't really see any sense in your comparison to be fair. You're saying that Scholes never played the main role in some major win (which in itself can be pretty debatable given that we all know how our midfield looked once he was gone) whereas, I assume, Gerrard did but at the same time you're trying to discard the fact that Scholes never played the main role in our downfall in some major game/competition whereas Gerrard did.
Pep lacks class.
Seen rumours on twitter Celtic want him.
He'd piss the SPL assuming he stayed fit.
He'd piss the SPL assuming he stayed fit.
Everton would be a good fit i think
Arsenal mate is saying Juve are interested? Is this true? Not seen that anywhere and don't believe him
Someone might take him and then be stuck with an injured player on very high wages for majority of season, there's risk involved. However, when fit he will be the best midfielder at most if not all of lower half teams.
He didn't cost his team a World Cup, this is ridiculous argument. There was like 10 minutes of extra time left in the game and they lost on penalties anyway.I seen Zidane headbutt a brother in his chest and pretty much cost his national team from winning a World Cup. Maybe he didn't reach the heights of Andrea Pirlo looking back...
He should go to West Ham. He is already Danny Dyer levels of well 'ard, squaring up to people all the time, should fit right in.
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