Jack Rodwell | Sold to City

When we bought Rooney we didn't really need him per se, we were well stocked up front with RVN, Saha and Smith.

But we bought him, cause he's special.

Maybe we should get Newcastle to put in a bid for Rodwell, just to get things in motion? ;)
 
Floyd said:
When we bought Rooney we didn't really need him per se, we were well stocked up front with RVN, Saha and Smith.

But we bought him, cause he's special.

Maybe we should get Newcastle to put in a bid for Rodwell, just to get things in motion? ;)
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He's that good? I never saw the game against us when we lost (damn you rain!). But whenever I've seen him he hasn't look such a good player. You'd put him in the same bracket as Rooney was when he was a similar age, in terms of talent?
 
amolbhatia100 said:
He's that good? I never saw the game against us when we lost (damn you rain!). But whenever I've seen him he hasn't look such a good player. You'd put him in the same bracket as Rooney was when he was a similar age, in terms of talent?
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No, I'm not saying that at all.

What I'm merely trying to say is that if Fergie identifies a young top class (British/Irish) player, he will try to buy him. Regardless of whether we need him or not, atm. See Rooney, see Keane ( we had Ince).

I haven't seen enough of Rodwell to suggest he belongs in this bracket.
 
p_ps_sock said:
Valencia provides more than either of those would/do.
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:lol: Speculative!
You can't say that at all, we haven't even seen Bebe play yet! Nani and Valencia and completely different players too! Valencia likes knocks the ball past the defender and swing it in, whereas Nani likes the more direct approach and shoots at goal more.
Anyway...this is a Rodwell thread.
 
Floyd said:
When we bought Rooney we didn't really need him per se, we were well stocked up front with RVN, Saha and Smith.

But we bought him, cause he's special.

Maybe we should get Newcastle to put in a bid for Rodwell, just to get things in motion? ;)
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behave. he's not as good as rooney at that age. i've seen him multiple times, and IMO ramsey and wilshere are better at the same age in midfield positions. wilshere last year at bolton was much more impressive against us IMO than rodwell in any of his performances against us.

That said, rodwell can play in centerback as well and is a physical specimen unlike the other two british lads i mentioned.

I quite don't understand why people are getting their knickers in a twist over this lad when the hype nearly wasnt as big about ramsey. Is it because he's english and not welsh? because ramsey at the same age IMO is the more gifted player. when it comes to technique its not even close. same with wilshere. I guess possibly its because he's at everton and not arsenal so he's more attainable than wilshere?

I would spend big money on rodwell to bolster our young british ranks but a bit of perspective would help.
 
VoetbalWizard said:
behave. he's not as good as rooney at that age. i've seen him multiple times, and IMO ramsey and wilshere are better at the same age in midfield positions. wilshere last year at bolton was much more impressive against us IMO than rodwell in any of his performances against us.

That said, rodwell can play in centerback as well and is a physical specimen unlike the other two british lads i mentioned.

I quite don't understand why people are getting their knickers in a twist over this lad when the hype nearly wasnt as big about ramsey. Is it because he's english and not welsh? because ramsey at the same age IMO is the more gifted player. when it comes to technique its not even close. same with wilshere. I guess possibly its because he's at everton and not arsenal so he's more attainable than wilshere?

I would spend big money on rodwell to bolster our young british ranks but a bit of perspective would help.
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Nothing to do with English, just that people see in him the potential to be a much better player than Ramsey.

It doesn't always have to be about who's got the best technique, you know. Having a good footballing brain and being an imposing physical specimen are also very important qualities. Which is where Rodwell really stands out from the crowd.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Nothing to do with English, just that people see in him the potential to be a much better player than Ramsey.

It doesn't always have to be about who's got the best technique, you know. Having a good footballing brain and being an imposing physical specimen are also very important qualities. Which is where Rodwell really stands out from the crowd.
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Using this as one of his main qualities to stand out in the under-21s, doesn't mean he'll be able to when he starts playing with the big boys on a regular basis. When a player's young ideally you'd want him to stand out more for qualities like vision and technique than physicality. Michah Richards is a prime example, a few years ago he was being touted at the next big thing and it was his physicality more than anything that stood out, now he's learning that, his build doesn't count for much when player regular first team football.

You mention Rodwell's "footballing brain" but isn't it just too early to decide on that? Surely only when he produces consistently for a decent length of time, you'd be able to make a decision.
 
The physical specimen thing won't go away though. He's not big and strong for his age. He's big and strong, full stop.

As for the footballing brain - something Micah Richards lacks completely - this can improve over time but not by much. Rodwell has an awareness, composure and elegance on the football pitch that really makes him stand out as something special.

All down to opinions though. I'm just explaining why I, personally, think he's going to be the next big thing. I could be wrong.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
The physical specimen thing won't go away though. He's not big and strong for his age. He's big and strong, full stop.

As for the footballing brain - something Micah Richards lacks completely - this can improve over time but not by much. Rodwell has an awareness, composure and elegance on the football pitch that really makes him stand out as something special.

All down to opinions though. I'm just explaining why I, personally, think he's going to be the next big thing. I could be wrong.
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As for Richards' footballing brain - when City played United at Old Trafford last season - one of the swedish expert commentators was one of the people Svennis had in his crew when he was in charge of England. Before the game he slaughtered young Richards claiming he couldn't position himself - and when he was put in a right-back position, this guy claimed that he almost delibertely moved towards the centre of defence simply because he didn't enjoy playing at right back. I don't think a commentator has ever been so correct before a game - Micah was awful!
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Nothing to do with English, just that people see in him the potential to be a much better player than Ramsey.

It doesn't always have to be about who's got the best technique, you know. Having a good footballing brain and being an imposing physical specimen are also very important qualities. Which is where Rodwell really stands out from the crowd.
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ramsey and wilshere's 'footballing brain' are just as good if not better. certainly in terms of ball use they are right now at a class above when it comes to 'footballing brain'.

even if we say that rodwell possesses a 'footballing brain' as good as the latter two (which is debatable at best), i agree that he has physique over those two but the latter two far surpass in technique. in one category he does surpass those lads, but in others he falls short.

At best, its a wash between all three in terms of overall attributes IMO, and so when fees around 25-30 million are being thrown about, its really taking the piss. how much would wilshere or ramsey go for right now? 25-30?

I'm not saying i don't rate him or that he isn't going to be superb, but the hype regarding him on the caf when compared to other young british lads is tough to understand.
 
People don't talk about Ramsey or Wilshire's transfer valuations because they're not going to leave Arsenal any time soon. Rodwell will. What's so hard to understand about that?
 
VoetbalWizard said:
.... and IMO ramsey and wilshere are better at the same age in midfield positions......
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I seriously doubt that. His holding midfield position is a far harder one to play than the attacking playmaker role that both Ramsey and Wilshere play. To impress in it at a young age you really have to be good.
 
papers linking us with him again today, got to say still think this lad could be a top class signing & is in the age group we seem to be going for.
 
Widnes said:
papers linking us with him again today, got to say still think this lad could be a top class signing & is in the age group we seem to be going for.
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It's a none story.
 
Sunday People says it all really. You can always rely on one of the Sunday Rags to falsely link us to some great player that is going to sell a few papers. I am sure Everton will try to hold onto him until he breaks into the England team and his value hits 25 Million!
 
Yeh, i suspect we may have been more likely to make a move if he hadn't signed a new contract

Anyway, starts today
 
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Fergie, Scholes, and Rooney speeding out of Carrington on the way to Liverpool.
 
finneh said:
Man Utd have lined up a £10m bid plus Michael Carrick for Jack Rodwell | The Sun |Sport|Football

I'd drive Carrick there myself. Not gonna happen though :/.
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I'd doubt Carrick would want a ride as I am sure his car is nicer than yours. It would be a good deal if we were to offer that, but I think we would move for him earleir in the window if we really wanted him.

Michael Carrick is a great footballer, hopefully he can get back into the form he was a couple of seasons ago.
 
:lol: Tomorrow will come and go and Rodwell will still be at Everton and Carrick will still be on our bench.
 
there is no way we are selling carrick and bringing rodwell in
fletch,scholes and carrick are the only senior central midfielders we have
scholes has started the season , but there is no way he will play all the games

we need carrick
 
Are United interested in Rodwell as a Central Midfielder or a Centre Back? I know he plays both but where do you see his future?
 
Canuckred64 said:
Are United interested in Rodwell as a Central Midfielder or a Centre Back? I know he plays both but where do you see his future?
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Read the thread, it's been covered in great detail.

In a nutshell, this "is a natural centre back" thing is just some thing that has been repeated ad nausium despite the fact that he has never featured there for Everton's first team - even during a defensive crisis and while they rely on dross such as Joseph Yobo on a regular basis.
 
Its Neil Custis FFS!! He is just picking up on earlier rumors from the Sunday People which is an equally dodgy source with no quotes. Rodwell will be an Everton player for another year or two until he reaches his maximum value of maybe 25 to 30 million and then Everton will sell!!
 
prateik said:
there is no way we are selling carrick and bringing rodwell in
fletch,scholes and carrick are the only senior central midfielders we have
scholes has started the season , but there is no way he will play all the games

we need carrick
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I don't agree with you, Giggs and Park have shown they are effective playing in a central midfield three, not to mention we have Anderson coming back from injury and I'm sure Gibson will be there if needed. Also, although Rodwell is not "senior" has already played like 50 Premier League games, not to mention he is more versatile than Carrick.
 
Right now I am not sure if we need him, I am confident that Tom Cleverley can step up. I really hope Ferguson gives him the go this season. But it wont be until the last half, when people start getting tired. I hope we give him ago instead of lending him out to Bolton or Wigan as has reemerged as rumors the past days, because I really fancy his talents, scored a great goals against MLS Allstars. Looking forward to see him get a go towards the end of season if he stays.
 
Georgie Best said:
Right now I am not sure if we need him, I am confident that Tom Cleverley can step up. I really hope Ferguson gives him the go this season. But it wont be until the last half, when people start getting tired. I hope we give him ago instead of lending him out to Bolton or Wigan as has reemerged as rumors the past days, because I really fancy his talents, scored a great goals against MLS Allstars. Looking forward to see him get a go towards the end of season if he stays.
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Cleverly and Rodwell play different roles, one is attacking minded while the other is defensive minded so I can't really see the comparison goign there.
 
The thing why most of the Caf are rating Rodwell is that he has youth on his side, I see a lot more in Rodwell than a 20 year old Fletch and look at what Fletch turned out to be with the guidance of SAF.

Rodwell has it all in his tank to become our very own Viera ( Possibly we also have Pogba ) but actually he has more pace and he just has that sense of calmness in MF...

Looks a lot more matured than anyone I've seen playing MF and he's just 20 FFS.

With Carrick in his late 20's and Hargreaves possibly back in 3 weeks, I think going for Rodwell would only benefit us.
 
RedThaiDevils#7 said:
Cleverly and Rodwell play different roles, one is attacking minded while the other is defensive minded so I can't really see the comparison goign there.
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Both of them seems to be running all over the place as box to box players, but the comparistion is simple, because they have two get playing time to deliver, and there are always two spots. Playing time for one would mean less for the other and that would make the developing part less likely. In many of the games Cleverley will get to start, a defensive midfielder wont be needed.

The last thing we need is a defensive minded midfielder, we have Fletcher for many years to come. Spending a fortune at him right now does not seem like a great deal to me. Anderson are rather talented defensivly as well.
 
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