Many actually, try some of the Villa lads - Agbonlahor and Young ( I don't think Delfounoso has played enough), Joe Hart, Fabrice Muamba, arguably and contentiously Lucas Leiva and our very own Rafael to name but a few
Jack Rodwell | Sold to City
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Many actually, try some of the Villa lads - Agbonlahor and Young ( I don't think Delfounoso has played enough), Joe Hart, Fabrice Muamba, arguably and contentiously Lucas Leiva and our very own Rafael to name but a few
He hasn't shone at all, except for a lovely goal against us he's done pretty much nish pish and sits on the bench most weeks.
In short, Rodwell does not have a chance in hell of the YPOTY award.
Hope he doesnt sign that new contract at Everton. He is the one player I hope we can somehow get this summer along with a playmaker and a striker! Rodwell is still a couple of years from even being close to the United first team but the early signs for his age show clearly that he can have a massive future in the game hopefully with us!!
I would love to see us buy him and then loan him back to Everton for a year with one of our fringe players going the other way also!!
I would love to see us buy him and then loan him back to Everton for a year with one of our fringe players going the other way also!!
Jack Rodwell plays key role in Sir Alex Ferguson’s plans for a British future | Premier League - Times Online
May 15, 2010 - Oliver Kay
Manchester United are determined to beat Chelsea to the signature of Jack Rodwell, the Everton midfield player, in the next stage of Sir Alex Ferguson’s attempt to establish a nucleus of young British players who can represent the club’s long-term future.
United have already secured a £10 million deal to sign Chris Smalling from Fulham and are eager to proceed with a bid for Rodwell, his England Under-21 team-mate, as part of Ferguson’s commitment to ensure that a core of British players remains after Gary Neville, Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs have retired.
James Milner, the Aston Villa and England midfield player, is another potential target, even though United fear it will be extremely difficult to persuade the Midlands club to sell.
Although Neville, Scholes and Giggs are signed up to play on for one more season, Ferguson and his coaching staff have discussed the need to preserve a British nucleus as the club look to move forward.
Rodwell, 19, is a player Ferguson has admired since before he broke into Everton’s first team. The teenager came through the Merseyside club’s youth ranks as a central defender, but has excelled in the centre of midfield, scoring Everton’s third goal in their 3-1 victory over United in February.
Everton are eager to persuade Rodwell to a sign a new contract, but United’s interest is strong and with Chelsea and Manchester City also admirers, Ferguson is eager to ensure his club do not lose out if the player becomes available. Chelsea had a £14 million bid for Rodwell rejected last year.
Ferguson’s desire for young British talent means that United will insist on being kept informed of any developments surrounding Milner, who is emerging as a key player in Fabio Capello’s plans for England’s World Cup campaign. It is unclear at this stage whether Ferguson will be tempted to move to sign Joe Cole on a free transfer if the 28-year-old’s contract negotiations with Chelsea break down. Ferguson has long been an admirer of Cole, but the club’s stated transfer policy is to focus on young talent, even if such a deal could, like the signing of Michael Owen last summer, be classed as “low risk”.
The United manager’s plans in attack are also unclear, despite a watching interest in Edin Dzeko, the Wolfsburg forward, and Karim Benzema, who is out of favour at Real Madrid. Dimitar Berbatov has attracted tentative interest from Bursaspor, who are second in the Turkish league, but there is no expectation at Old Trafford that the former Bulgaria forward will be sold.
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Would be a super signing if Everton are willing to sell for the right price!
May 15, 2010 - Oliver Kay
Manchester United are determined to beat Chelsea to the signature of Jack Rodwell, the Everton midfield player, in the next stage of Sir Alex Ferguson’s attempt to establish a nucleus of young British players who can represent the club’s long-term future.
United have already secured a £10 million deal to sign Chris Smalling from Fulham and are eager to proceed with a bid for Rodwell, his England Under-21 team-mate, as part of Ferguson’s commitment to ensure that a core of British players remains after Gary Neville, Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs have retired.
James Milner, the Aston Villa and England midfield player, is another potential target, even though United fear it will be extremely difficult to persuade the Midlands club to sell.
Although Neville, Scholes and Giggs are signed up to play on for one more season, Ferguson and his coaching staff have discussed the need to preserve a British nucleus as the club look to move forward.
Rodwell, 19, is a player Ferguson has admired since before he broke into Everton’s first team. The teenager came through the Merseyside club’s youth ranks as a central defender, but has excelled in the centre of midfield, scoring Everton’s third goal in their 3-1 victory over United in February.
Everton are eager to persuade Rodwell to a sign a new contract, but United’s interest is strong and with Chelsea and Manchester City also admirers, Ferguson is eager to ensure his club do not lose out if the player becomes available. Chelsea had a £14 million bid for Rodwell rejected last year.
Ferguson’s desire for young British talent means that United will insist on being kept informed of any developments surrounding Milner, who is emerging as a key player in Fabio Capello’s plans for England’s World Cup campaign. It is unclear at this stage whether Ferguson will be tempted to move to sign Joe Cole on a free transfer if the 28-year-old’s contract negotiations with Chelsea break down. Ferguson has long been an admirer of Cole, but the club’s stated transfer policy is to focus on young talent, even if such a deal could, like the signing of Michael Owen last summer, be classed as “low risk”.
The United manager’s plans in attack are also unclear, despite a watching interest in Edin Dzeko, the Wolfsburg forward, and Karim Benzema, who is out of favour at Real Madrid. Dimitar Berbatov has attracted tentative interest from Bursaspor, who are second in the Turkish league, but there is no expectation at Old Trafford that the former Bulgaria forward will be sold.
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Would be a super signing if Everton are willing to sell for the right price!
Do not want... now.
Well you can bet your last dollar that he will be a superstar at City in the near future if we don`t go in for him now!!
Might be a case of now or never. I say go for it.
I like Rodwell, but I don't think he'll turn into a world beater like his hype suggests.
Brilliant physical attributes and a good head on his shoulders, let's see how he develops.
Brilliant physical attributes and a good head on his shoulders, let's see how he develops.
Agreed. Do not want... now. Prefer guile.
He's good and British. If United don't buy him post-haste then he will either end up with City or Chelsea, and/or his price will astronomical.
If he's not good enough now buy him and loan him out.
Truthfully he's the only player I really hope we get. Central mid and defense have had the most dangerous holes this now (thankfully) past season.
If he's not good enough now buy him and loan him out.
Truthfully he's the only player I really hope we get. Central mid and defense have had the most dangerous holes this now (thankfully) past season.
Still apart from our Rafael, Wilshere and Rodwell... who else is around 18-19 and performs on a consistent basis.
No quotes = Bullshit. Where are their sources? So frustrating to see this constant shite!
True but The Times is usually a little bit more reputable with printing stories like this and they seem to have a decent relationship with Fergie too as he has done one or two recent enough interviews with this Paper!
how much do they want
My guess would be somewhere in the area of £25 million.
this is way too much. i dont want him , he wont improve our team. plus we dont need him in midfield, we dont need second box to box midfielder, we have fletch who is better. and hargreaves may be back for next season, maybe even in two weeks .
The home-grown element in the quota system is likely to be cranked up in coming seasons. And that will mean that whoever has the biggest chunk of the England team is likely to be champions. Rodwell seems a good start to me.
Its funny that probably all the Utd fans saying that Rodwell is not good enough for us would have laughed if anyone had suggested we sign Milner last summer before he had his wonder season with Villa this year. Central Midfielders simply dont show what they are made of until they reach at least 23 or 24! But Rodwell has already shown that he can be a great squad player at just 19 years old with the potential to be the best in the country. If he was in the Everton team at 18 scoring goals against United then why wouldnt you tip him to make it to the top? I think Lampard was about 24 or 25 years old before people stopped saying he was rubbish!!Not to mention Fletcher!
I don;t think there are many saying he's not good enough, it's the price that puts people off. Rooney was young, but already a regular for England when he signed him. Rodwell is still breaking into the Everton side, and well he's undoubtedly very talented, paying £25m for him is a massive gamble.
Veron, Berbatov, Barthez.. nothing is guaranteed.
To the best of my knowledge he has only scored once against us. Besides since when were goals against us a conclusive indicator of one's ability? A lot of young players have scored against us and yet this has hardly been seen as a plus. He is not even an Everton regular and yet you guys want him here. Lampard had already started 100 or so premiership games by the time he was 24/25.
Some seem to be trumping up his versatility and that in itself is an added bonus but one just can't help think that with JOS and the never fit Hargreaves here, do we really need another jack of all trades and a master of none?
An excellent reference. I am one of those saying that regardless of the price he is not good enough for a club like United.
Really? I think that's a massive overstatement given his age. He could become world class, he may not. Personally speaking, anyone saying that he's not good enough, or is the player we must sign, is speaking out of their arse. Put simply he's too young and too unproven to say either way. I'd be happy if we sign him, because he's a promising young player. But I still think that signing him for £25m+ is a massive gamble and one that could prove a hideous waste of money.
The Sun's running the same story - but I thought Chelsea had a £16m bid rejected last year? So what would the point of a £15m bid be? Unless there was some sort of player swap involved.
I have no doubt that this is our main target for the summer. All the other stuff is just bollocks.
Bearing in mind squad size restrictions and the age relevance, Rodwell will be a United player this year and Fergie's wallet will be put back in the drawer.
rodwell wont be taking up a place in the 25 man squad for the next 3 seasons..
thats a huge positive for any club that gets him
thats a huge positive for any club that gets him
For sure. I can only see Ferguson splashing the cash if he was to lose one of his big names. When we eventually lose Giggs and Scholes, expect serious buying.
I rate Rodwell hughly but if we are only making one signing this summer then he is not the one to go for IMO.
My Everton supporting mate and the forum he posts on reckon this lad is the real deal, or atleast, very soon will be. He knows his football aswell. Personally, I dunno where I stand on this. If we had tons of cash and already had a AM and Striker then I'd probably say yeah alright, but as we don't, we can't really afford to gamble on a promising kid.
Long mentioned as the next big thing behind the scenes, never attracted the same press attention/excitment as Rooney basically because hes not a striker. Those "ITK" have always raved about him
I agree. He has great potential but I can't see what he can give to the present side that Anderson can't give.
The main reasons to sign him is the new rules and that he is English.
Rooney wasn't really needed when we had Ruud and Saha and just bought Smith as well. But he was a special case and if Fergie sees in Rodwell that sort of talent, he won't care about the rest. One of those players-I-have-to-have.
Rooney was better than Smith, and more talented than Saha. Rodwell hasn't proven anything to be judge in the same context of the Rooney signing.
I remember seeing Steven Gerrard as a young player and I believe he played right back for a fair few games. Anyway, I wasn't particularly impressed with him as a youngster, I certainly didn't expect him to become the player he was 
.
Players who 'explode on the scene' like Owen and Rooney are so rare. I think it's also easier to see ability as a striker when there's less emphasis on team work (granted a massive point of Rooney's game) and controlling the flow of the game, which is generally above a young players maturity and experience.
My point is that Fergie has seen many players over the years at various stages of development and is capable of envisioning the players they will become. If Fergie sees greatness in Rodwell and is prepared to spend the figures quoted, that's as good a guarantee that you are likely to get that he's going to become a special player.
. Players who 'explode on the scene' like Owen and Rooney are so rare. I think it's also easier to see ability as a striker when there's less emphasis on team work (granted a massive point of Rooney's game) and controlling the flow of the game, which is generally above a young players maturity and experience.
My point is that Fergie has seen many players over the years at various stages of development and is capable of envisioning the players they will become. If Fergie sees greatness in Rodwell and is prepared to spend the figures quoted, that's as good a guarantee that you are likely to get that he's going to become a special player.
I remember seeing Steven Gerrard as a young player and I believe he played right back for a fair few games. Anyway, I wasn't particularly impressed with him as a youngster, I certainly didn't expect him to become the player he was
Players who 'explode on the scene' like Owen and Rooney are so rare. I think it's also easier to see ability as a striker when there's less emphasis on team work (granted a massive point of Rooney's game) and controlling the flow of the game, which is generally above a young players maturity and experience.
My point is that Fergie has seen many players over the years at various stages of development and is capable of envisioning the players they will become. If Fergie sees greatness in Rodwell and is prepared to spend the figures quoted, that's as good a guarantee that you are likely to get that he's going to become a special player.
Good point... Gerrard was very defensive minded when he first came on the seen... even when playing in the centre!! (Can't remember him at right back)
That depends on what Fergie thinks of him. Of course Rooney's done more for Everton than Rodwell and quickly became a top player for us, but we weren't going to sign Rooney that summer, we planned for a season without him. When Newcastle came in and it was get him now or lose him, we went for him because he was a special player Fergie wanted to have even if he wasn't planning to bring in another striker at the time. Rodwell may fit into that category. Only the gaffer knows.
I remember seeing Steven Gerrard as a young player and I believe he played right back for a fair few games. Anyway, I wasn't particularly impressed with him as a youngster, I certainly didn't expect him to become the player he was
Players who 'explode on the scene' like Owen and Rooney are so rare. I think it's also easier to see ability as a striker when there's less emphasis on team work (granted a massive point of Rooney's game) and controlling the flow of the game, which is generally above a young players maturity and experience.
My point is that Fergie has seen many players over the years at various stages of development and is capable of envisioning the players they will become. If Fergie sees greatness in Rodwell and is prepared to spend the figures quoted, that's as good a guarantee that you are likely to get that he's going to become a special player.
Good points, and of course Keano also started his career at RB, so that doesn't mean anything.
There's always some risk, but Rodwell does look to have something special.
And unlike other 'prospects' his temperament and physique are not an issue, the question is more whether he'll just be a great CB or whether he can make it as a top CM.
Either way, as a premium English talent, not one to miss out on imo.
Isn't he a more defensive player. Do we really need another one of those? I'd rather have an attacking player with a bit of flair and creativity.
I've read that article, and, considering Fergie knows Moyes very well, all I can assume is that we won't go for him unless Everton are prepared to sell him to us and he is prepared to leave. There wouldn't be any point otherwise. At this point in time Fergie will already know the answer to those questions.
If we don't get him then it's most likely because we didn't go for him in the first place.