he gives you something different and can create something out of nothing.
Jack Grealish | Man City
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) review both the Everton and Bodø/Glimt victories at Old Trafford. Listen to the guys discuss 2 wins and 7 goals in the last week, analyse of the Amorim formation, focus on Amad and how he is playing, and also take a look at Hojlund, Rashford & Zirkzee – who starts v Arsenal?
he gives you something different and can create something out of nothing.
City was never the move for him. Pep's zero risk keep ball is not for maverick type attacking players. He was brilliant in his final season at Villa.
Even after his poor season he's still a better option than some of the bang average players Southgate is taking. He's capable of things others in that squad cannot do, but he's too unpredictable for a plodder like Southgate.
You went too far
Could've been a legend for Ireland but chose wrong, and immediately fell into Fodens shadow.
His shit housery can be useful aswell, especially if one nil up and need to keep the ball and waste time.
He was a bit of a throwback to the types of player we saw in the 90s and 00s, but yeah that’s all gone now. City was always the wrong move.
Do you agree or disagree that the player picked had better season than Grealish?
Yes, but enough about 11101 har dee har
Going on a week piss up celebrating a title win he had little involvement in probably didn’t help his case.
Absolutely. He’s a flair player and such players are the opposite of Pep’s style of play. He’s a square peg in a round hole at City. Would have been a much better fit for us. He even supported us over City in 2012 as a teenager.
Eh, he’s never really done an awful lot for England. I went to basically every game at the 2020/21 Euros and remember him being treated like a national hero on the bench and cheered more than anyone else when he was due to come on… but when he did he’d immediately just kinda run into the fullback, or the corner, possibly win a free kick, but very little else. Since his move to City his entire career has been based on vibes. Sure he “provides something else” but it’s kinda like bemoaning not taking Lee Sharpe to Euro 96 at this point
In terms of actually, reliably turning up for England Rashford is the risky choice to leave. Grealish & Maddison?? Eh.
I dont think Antony and City version Grealish are very different in their style of play. Both players dont score or assist much. Their stenght, or atleast the way they are used, is keeping the ball in the team.
Grealish stays wide and will pretend to do a move when he receives the ball. He either passes it sideways to a teammate or dives over a leg. Result is that City keeps the ball.
Antony his best ability is workrate on defense but also keeping the ball in the team.
City was the wrong choice. One of the few players who could and should have taken on the 7 shirt.
Yeah probably but having a good season in a mid table team can be a one off and probably will. Grealish is still the more talented and trains daily at a higher level than some of these guys ever play at on the weekend.
To be fair to him Euro 20 was hardly the place for him to shine. Southgate was all over the place with his team selections.
Think he should have gone instead of Bowen. In tight games where you're trying to get over the line his experience and ability to draw fouls is very valuable.
As much as I think Grealish is overrated I agree with this, in games when we are winning by a single goal you bring Grealish on to break up the momentum.
I think they like hoarding players.
If Rashford didn't make it based on form then it's only right Grealish doesn't either. As bad as Rashford has been, Grealish has been worse this season. Just such a nothing player now, if the only thing he's useful for nowadays is drawing fouls then that's surely not good enough reason to take him to the Euros! Rashford at least would have had the threat of running in behind and scoring a screamer once in a while.
Based on playing with inverted wingers it seems like Gordon and now Eze are the one's getting the nod ahead of these two, and it's really impossible to argue against that on form. I'm still not convinced Gordon is good enough to start, but he does have a good record at U21 level and has proved me wrong this season after thinking he was a massive flop initially at Newcastle. And Eze, bring him here asap!
And then when you consider that neither of those two are actually likely to start given Southgate will shoehorn Foden in as LW, then there really isn't need for more than 2 right footed options on the bench. Imagine the sub will be Gordon to come on if the game is stretched or Eze to come on if the game is cagey.
Based on playing with inverted wingers it seems like Gordon and now Eze are the one's getting the nod ahead of these two, and it's really impossible to argue against that on form. I'm still not convinced Gordon is good enough to start, but he does have a good record at U21 level and has proved me wrong this season after thinking he was a massive flop initially at Newcastle. And Eze, bring him here asap!
And then when you consider that neither of those two are actually likely to start given Southgate will shoehorn Foden in as LW, then there really isn't need for more than 2 right footed options on the bench. Imagine the sub will be Gordon to come on if the game is stretched or Eze to come on if the game is cagey.
It always seemed like a PR move to me to build “the brand”
Massively so. Wasn't he signed in the summer of the last Euros where his stock in England was probably the highest it's ever been? It was blatant.
Exactly. It wasn’t a signing that actually made sense from a footballing perspective.
Didn't he change the game vs Germany? I remember him getting a perfectly weighted assist for one of the goals. I agree that since joining City he's had that flair coached out of him. But there was a reason why he was getting cheered more than anyone else in that tournament as he was one of the most exciting players in Europe when he was at Villa.
He just doesn't fit the Pep type player mold. It was a poor move for him
He cost them 100 million, throw in philips, the guy from wolves and you cam see city are almost as guilty as other clubs like us of big money flops
Exactly. Their cheating means that all of this won’t negatively affect them though.
Not sure. Bowen deserved to go. Got like 16 goals in the prem this season. I’d rather Rashford or Grealish had gone instead of Gordon though.
Ye but unfortunately it’s disguised a lot more when you’re in a successful team.
I think Bowen deserved to go to and I'm a big fan of his but I think Grealish offers that defensive protection.
Saw a banger of a post on reddit a couple of weeks back. It claimed Grealish tore it up every game and was one of England's best players. At the 2020 Euros. Where he started one game.
Still remember his game against Germany doing really well in that win and looked an important emerging player tipped as the best English player but then against Italy he's only on in extra time. I really felt we needed him to start that game or come in the 90, we had low possession and he could've helped along with his delivery. Could not imagine his not getting into a squad back then.
Both him and Rashford seem to have lost their way off the pitch as well, perhaps that is also in Southgate's thinking as well as form, but they've never really established themselves as a starter while in form so again not surprising they've not picked but still a bit shocked seeing fan favourite Grealish not going.
Gordon, people have been impressed in his dedication and attitude so probably goes a long way. Hopefully these other form players can hit the ground running in the tournament.
Both him and Rashford seem to have lost their way off the pitch as well, perhaps that is also in Southgate's thinking as well as form, but they've never really established themselves as a starter while in form so again not surprising they've not picked but still a bit shocked seeing fan favourite Grealish not going.
Gordon, people have been impressed in his dedication and attitude so probably goes a long way. Hopefully these other form players can hit the ground running in the tournament.
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Wonder if this will make him re-think his position. There is a world cup in two years to consider and he'd be a shoe-in if he were a regular.
Like a free kick?
Reminds me a bit of Duff from years ago, in terms of an example of how the wrong move for a player can destroy them. Biggest contract isn't always best option.
The fact he's often seen hammered in public, evidences he doesn't have best people around him.
The fact he's often seen hammered in public, evidences he doesn't have best people around him.
He’s a virtuoso player who went to the most highly structured team in the league. He’s been asked to play in a way that is antithetical to what made him good in the first place. It doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be able to do it, but by the same token it’s hardly surprising that once you eliminate the part of his game that caught the eye, he looks a different player. If I was England manager and I planned to use him in the same way he was used at Villa, I would’ve taken him regardless of form. He’s so talented. But I also recognise it would’ve been unfair to others too. I don’t have a problem with the decision to leave him out, nor would I have had a problem with taking him.
I don’t think his fortunes have been helped by his lifestyle choices. He seems to live a very active social life that involves a lot of drinking. Maybe that’s unfair, as appearances can be deceiving, but he does seem to crop up in the press hammered an awful lot by comparison to other players.
He definitely needs to move.
I don’t think his fortunes have been helped by his lifestyle choices. He seems to live a very active social life that involves a lot of drinking. Maybe that’s unfair, as appearances can be deceiving, but he does seem to crop up in the press hammered an awful lot by comparison to other players.
He definitely needs to move.
What transfer destroyed Duff?
Playing Sunday league with David James
I'm not sure I buy into the whole structured team and Jack having the change his game.
I mean Doku plays like Jack did at his previous club. But better.