How was love island Lanzini today?
Jack Grealish | Man City
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Why is me expression a thought, or an opinion, suddenly me thinking I'm the voice of England fans? How did you come to that conclusion?
When I followed England, and it's fans, at the Euros - my understanding was that more people were talking about Grealish having to start. More so than Sancho, Rashford or Foden. What's the problem with that?
But as I said - I was just walking down the memory lane of when we'd signed Rooney and reliving that feeling.
I bet that was City fans feeling today. Their "We got England's new golden boy" feeling. Which, of course, is a nice feeling.
Note. I'm not comparing Rooney vs. Grealish.
Note. I'm not saying Grealish is "England's new golden boy". Although, it seemed that way during the Euros - in my opinion.
Where am I stating that fans, with certainty, are feeling one way or another? I'm making assumptions. Expressing my thoughts. Having opinions. Asking questions. Mainly - things you do on a forum.
This argument is going nowhere at this point. Nothing to gain from now on. Suggest we just leave it like this. Deal?
They triggered the clause in his contract and shot themselves in the foot. 
youre kinda not listening to what im saying. For me rooneys potential was Ronaldo Messi. He had a fantastic career , one of our best players and deserved to scorer. But i still feel his absolute peak potential was Better than Ronaldo. So by you yourself saying any footballer falls short ronaldo and messi , youre proving my point. I didnt feel Rooney was going to fall short. I thought he would have surpassed. Thats how highly regarded i had him as and thought he would become. The rest of what you said has no bearing on my point. I personally think he didnt reach his potential because i had his potential as being sky high. But its not bad to aim for the stars and land on the moon
You've said throughout this conversation what "fans feeling" was, when you actually mean what your feeling was. But agreed, this is going nowhere.
They triggered the clause in his contract and shot themselves in the foot.
I think your confusing rooney with owen.
I don't think Rooney's potential was similar to Ronaldo's and Messi's. At 19, Rooney's decision making, game maturity, strength, intensity, speed where more or less peak for a player, there wasn't that much room for improvement on those aspects as they were already great and some players are like that.
However a kid like Ronaldo for instance, showed unreal natural skill but had a fair way to go in terms of game maturity, strength, decision making, directness and intensity, so there was obviously a higher ceiling for him if he worked at it.
To be fair to Rooney, I think he did just fine. Maybe if he looked after himself better, he might have lasted a bit longer at peak physical condition, but all things considered, an amazing player in his own right.
You can’t hold a player to a higher standard and then if they don’t reach that potential blame them for not reaching that potential. Ronaldo and Messi were just more talented than Rooney and that’s exactly how things have panned out.
Well I hope Grealish turns out to be the flop of the season, lets see if he's put under as much scrutiny as Pogba constantly is/was for being bought for so much.
Bollocks. Not having any of it. We bought Sancho to fill that gap, we weren’t ever going for JG after that.
I'm not sure. I think we baulked at the eventual fee but we were in for him when the rumours were at 60 or 70m. He's a great player but I don't think he's a guaranteed week in week out talisman aka a 100m player.
Once it's clear City really want a player there's no point competing. They can just keep adding zeros.
maybe they wanted him to take time out and get his head right after missing the penalty and all the abuse he got after? You don’t know how he took it.
We beat them to Berbatov, Van Persie, Sanchez and Maguire during the Oil era.
The media are so far down City's shaft it's vomit inducing.
We already got our man in Sancho, I doubt they had any competition for Grealish, why the media need to push the narrative that a player wanted City over us is stupid.
Yeah I've addressed that, seems a soft reason even whilst fully accepting he would have got a lot of stick.
Saka has returned to training roughly at the same time as Grealish, is younger and was also the player who missed the absolute final kick to keep England in it. . I don't think that's the reason to be honest.
How does Grealish sign after Sancho yet still get thrown straight in with a 30 min cameo yday.
Surely we should have seen at least a similar cameo from Sancho. Especially when shaw and Maguire were playing yday.
Surely we should have seen at least a similar cameo from Sancho. Especially when shaw and Maguire were playing yday.
That’s true, people cope with things differently though? it is bizarre but I’m sure there’s a valid reason. Maybe he has a slight injury? It’s a weird one.
Of course no doubts, because he now plays for City ….he’ll be a regular starter for wonder manager Southgate.
Off topic question - I see so many people adding these colored circles before, in the middle of and at the end of a tweet. I’m guessing it’s supposed to mean something but can’t really put a finger on what exactly. Can someone tell me what they are for?
The colours of a club in question, usually (not Villa in this case, as this is an account of a United fan, so he shows the United perspective).
Not to mention Fred
In his case it means, ' I talk bollocks!'
I dislike Southgate. Don't rate him.
But the one thing he has done is choose players from non top 4 clubs.
It is a challenge for Grealish, I do think his reputation is rather over inflated based on what he has delivered in a fairly low pressure environment but it is the right time to make the move and prove he can be a winning player.
Stylistically he may have to adapt a little, at Villa he held the ball for long periods, perhaps through necessity admittedly but at City he will be playing against packed defensive units and slowing the game down is not helpful in that scenario. Has the ability to do it of course, even in limited time in the Euro's you could his link with Shaw, but could see him starting slowly.
Stylistically he may have to adapt a little, at Villa he held the ball for long periods, perhaps through necessity admittedly but at City he will be playing against packed defensive units and slowing the game down is not helpful in that scenario. Has the ability to do it of course, even in limited time in the Euro's you could his link with Shaw, but could see him starting slowly.
Ah the usual Abu Dhabi propaganda. 'United wanted him but he only wanted us, honest!'
This tweet doesn't say that at all.
Pretty useless tweet. City activated his release clause, why would villa care to bring us in at that point. City pulled a Woodward and paid the clause, no fuss and ridiculous overpayment.
Pep mentioned out going transfers generated 60m pounds for Grealish move, Jack Harrison and ?
They also got £11m or so from Sancho.
Angelino 16 m
Harrison 11.5m
Nmecha 11m?
Not sure of the others though agero would have got a sizable wage off the books
The Sane money goes in this accounting period I believe.
July is a new accounting period. Sane was sold last season.
Pretty sure that I read it in The Athletic but admittedly I can't find it in the article I just read. I think the idea would be that they agreed a different payment structure to smooth FFP.