Ivan Perisic
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I hadn't even thought of that. If he's actually available it would make signing Perisic look doubly stupid.
I don't think that's true. Valencia for example had a high minimum level when we bought him. Nani on the other hand was younger, had a higher peak but absolutely inconsistent.
Probably because the PL is the fastest-paced of all the big leagues, and Serie A is the steadiest. Makes for an uncomfortable transition.
Its down to Player's Physical abilities in stamina, work rate and the system and Philosophy. The statement is not universal.
Plain.
Valencia was considered very inconsistent or consistently poor before moving to fullback position.
Nani was inconsistent because he tried outrageous passes and dribbles.
Some wingers are risk takers and some are just safe players.
Mate they don't do a plain. You're looking for "plain...ish" which still has a bit of a kick!!!
I cannot claim to have seen Perisic play many times but his style reminds me of Willian's. In the Mourinho tactical system having a hardworking, pacey, direct player who scores goals makes a lot of sense.
Only since 2012/13. In the first few years of his United career Valencia was our first choice right winger and very effective at it too. Valencia to Rooney's head was a key combo from 2009/10 until his form dropped off when he took the #7 shirt.
Only since 2012/13. In the first few years of his United career Valencia was our first choice right winger and very effective at it too. Valencia to Rooney's head was a key combo from 2009/10 until his form dropped off when he took the #7 shirt.
Perisic is a very good player and one of the few proper ones that make the difference at Inter and of course now they sell him
But he is not ideal for a 352 setup, it would be a waste of money for a player that gives his best in the last third of the field when attacking. He certainly does not cover the whole lenghth as WB in a 352 formation needs to and he is not particularly good defensively. He can be very good in a 4231 or 433 side, certainly not in a 352. So if 352 is MU preferred choice Perisic would not be a good choice.I doubt though that 352 will be the key tactical formation if it is true that you will buy Griezmann, another player that would not be used at his best in a 352 side .
I disagree I think both Perisic and Griezmann would suit a 352. We wouldn't need Perisic to cover the full length of the field. Look how Jose has played Mykytarin and Lingard deep, Perisic would be much more suitable in this role and against weaker opposition he could easily play further forward.
I think we needed a RW more than a LW like Perisic. However, we don't have many traditional wingers and we need more wingers like Perisic, Willian or Sane. I think they'd give us different options. Right now we have Mata/ mkhitaryan and Lingard who for me, are no.10's playing wide, always coming inside.
Martial and Perisic are like kind of alternatives we need. Perisic would not be my first choice but let's see if the deal happens.
Martial and Perisic are like kind of alternatives we need. Perisic would not be my first choice but let's see if the deal happens.
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Not sure if the rumour is true or not, but if Jose can improved Fellaini to at least become consistent (if not special to most fans), then I believe Maureen would improve certain aspects of Perisic game. He is natural wide-man, something that United lacking at the moment, two footed, speedy, and as some poster said, good engine. Should be good option to have as part of different combo.
Mourinho wants width. We desperately lack it. It will force more space for our no.10 and strikers. We should all remember this is Mourinho and should trust in his signings. Yes it might not be the big name signing but im sure he will do a good job for us.
This would be an underwhelming signing, to say the least.
Maybe.
I never meant for the statement to be universal. Just to think of the last player who came from the Serie A and turned into a great and consistent performer ? Pogba is another proof that it can be tough even if I have no doubt he will become the league's best player at some point.
I wonder if Rashford will line up on the right next season. He's too good for the bench and if we get Greizmann and Perisic I can't see where else he'd play.
Rashford-----Mhiki-------Perisic
----------------Greizmann------------
I've not seen him much lately, but he was incredible at the Euros. But my problems with this transfer is his price tag (especially given his play style and age) and the fact that he's predominantly a LW, which we're stocked in. If anything we really need a pacy RW. Perisic is very two footed, but can he play at a good level as a RW?
He isn't though. Sub player and starter in some cup games should be his role for now.
I was literally not using it as some kind of proof, I just mentioned it. Never claimed that it was going to prove anything. Learn to read
We will have to agree to disagree there Andy.
You're right they haven't, but isn't giving these players a chance what Manchester United's all about? We've boasted a great youth system that has produced many of our greatest stars. How will we know that Harrop and Mitchell and the likes could be the next stars without giving them a chance? We couldn't.
Please don't get angry because we are linked to players like Perisic and Dier. I can see your point about them not having the biggest names like Fabinho or Alexis Sanches, and I agree that the individual abilities of the latter players are superior to Perisic and Dier. However, I think what we need these hard working team players in order to free up some of the brilliant individuals we have at the club already. Alexis Sanches will for sure perform better than Perisic in terms of goals scored, but if the defensive work from Perisic means that we let in fewer goals and that Luke Shaw is brought back into the team with offensive freedom, I think the team as a unit will be better off with Perisic. Same thing about Dier, he could do the dirty work as Pogba is given more offensive freedom, and would probably make Mourinho comfortable about playing with a very offensive nr. 10 (Griezmann?) instead of someone that primarily has to track back. Against the top teams we would probably line up in a 433 with Dier as DM and a front trio of Perisic, Griezmann and Mkhitaryan, and I can see us going all the way in the CL with that lineup.
To sum it up: we should bring in Perisic and Dier to make a super solid team, and bring in Griezmann to give us individual brilliance offensively. Having a solid structure would certainly help players like Shaw, Martial, Rashford and Mkhitaryan perform at their best level.
To sum it up: we should bring in Perisic and Dier to make a super solid team, and bring in Griezmann to give us individual brilliance offensively. Having a solid structure would certainly help players like Shaw, Martial, Rashford and Mkhitaryan perform at their best level.
Di Marzio says we've offered €35m. Inter want €55m. €35m is fair.
Grizi doesn't even play as solo striker in Spain, he plays support striker to Torres or Gameiro in a 4-4-2. But he'll come to the EPL and be a solo striker in a 4-2-3-1. For a Mourinho team.
Sure.
55-60m EUR for Perisic 
Even if he wasn't an average performer in the league, he's a winger turning 29 FFS.
Even if he wasn't an average performer in the league, he's a winger turning 29 FFS.He's a different profile to any player we have and there are simply not many quality wingers we can buy. Given his age, 35m euros is a fair deal.
I just can't make any sense out of this signing (if we do end up signing him). We already have Martial and Rashford who are natural left sided attacking players. Even if Rashford plays as No.9 next season, Where will Martial play ?
Does that mean the end of his career at United ?
Does that mean the end of his career at United ?
We are only few days into the transfer season. Reading Silva and Perisic threads, it seems like transfer window will finish in a few hours.
As a Croat, been watching Perisic from early days and I can see why Mourinho is interested. Also, I think this story has legs based on Perisic style of play. He didn't succeed in Dortmund but he isn't the same player anymore. He is now much more direct player and can thrive in counter attacking team. You will not see much fancy stuff from him, when he gets the ball he will immediately attack the space, try to beat his man, put a cross or go for a goal. He is also a proper winger which means he will provide that width on his side. Also, he will put defensive shift every time he is playing. He is inconsistent as the second part of this season with Inter proved and the reported fee should be definitely lower.
Strange thing about his inconsistency is that for Croatia national team he has been the most consistent player with Modric for the last 3-4 years and sometimes even more decisive. Also, very physical player so he shouldn't have problem with adopting to EPL. When he is on song, he is excellent. When he is not he can be found missing in the game especially looking at some of his club performances. Also, his decision making is sometimes a problem. I have also doubts about his ability when the opponent sets up defensively which is the biggest problem in our home games where he will not have so much space. That second part will hopefully be sorted with our other targets and our general set up for the next season.
All in all, can see why he is considered underwhelming signing but he is not a nothing player, far from it. In a right set up he can make more damage then our current wingers. The reported fee as I said should be definitely lower, though.
As a Croat, been watching Perisic from early days and I can see why Mourinho is interested. Also, I think this story has legs based on Perisic style of play. He didn't succeed in Dortmund but he isn't the same player anymore. He is now much more direct player and can thrive in counter attacking team. You will not see much fancy stuff from him, when he gets the ball he will immediately attack the space, try to beat his man, put a cross or go for a goal. He is also a proper winger which means he will provide that width on his side. Also, he will put defensive shift every time he is playing. He is inconsistent as the second part of this season with Inter proved and the reported fee should be definitely lower.
Strange thing about his inconsistency is that for Croatia national team he has been the most consistent player with Modric for the last 3-4 years and sometimes even more decisive. Also, very physical player so he shouldn't have problem with adopting to EPL. When he is on song, he is excellent. When he is not he can be found missing in the game especially looking at some of his club performances. Also, his decision making is sometimes a problem. I have also doubts about his ability when the opponent sets up defensively which is the biggest problem in our home games where he will not have so much space. That second part will hopefully be sorted with our other targets and our general set up for the next season.
All in all, can see why he is considered underwhelming signing but he is not a nothing player, far from it. In a right set up he can make more damage then our current wingers. The reported fee as I said should be definitely lower, though.
He's really not though. I don't think he's good enough to start for us. He has far more bad games than good ones that's for sure.
For 35M I wouldn't mind it. Assuming we buy another attacker or two.
So we've been negotiating with Inter for a month and Mourinho went to Croatia in March yet according to some this is a panic buy in response to Bernardo Silva joining City.
It's people trying to deflect any blame away from Mourinho to Woodward, as they also expect him to be shit.
For €35m/£30m, he might be worth a punt. Although that's still more than doubling the €16m that Inter paid only 2 years ago and we're still being milked.
For €55m we should get nowhere near him. We're not here to fund Inter's re-building.
Too ugly to play for United, he has a Liverpool face.. Do not want.
But seriously, he isn't very good.
But seriously, he isn't very good.
Not necessarily. Perisic and Rashford aren't going to be playing every game; with a number of competitions etc we'll almost certainly rotate, and then there's always the chance we'll be hampered by injuries, or that Martial will impress when he is given a chance. Might not bode well for Martial, but then if he excels he'll have a decent chance of playing fairly often.
Ludicrous fee. Clubs just chuck on an extra 20 million in their asking price just because we're man United and usually pay up.
Why does it have to be the end of his career? And it's clear we can't just go into a full season just banking on him. Same for Rashford. He is clearly not a regular starter yet as much as you'd like to believe he is. We need plenty of backup and rotation and everyone will get enough games. There could be a lot of other apprehensions about Perisic but the idea that we don't need wingers is bemusing.
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