Mourinho obviously thought he could play as a wingback, what a surprise.
Ivan Perisic
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As many predicted we were targeting him for LWB due to his workrate.
Nice to read that Jose rates Martial as a pure attacker though.
Nice to read that Jose rates Martial as a pure attacker though.
Well colour me fecking surprised. I didn't believe that he wanted to sign Perisic for a wing-back role, I thought he'd want him as a natural winger. I guess I got that wrong.
If we were willing to splash £40m on Perisic for LWB tho, I'm still not sure why we wouldn't spend £50m and get Mendy from Monaco early in the summer. He's excellent in that position.
Happy to hear our pursuit won't send Martial out.
Hope we still sign him.
Hope we still sign him.
Would allow us to play 343.
Imagine Martial, Lukaku and Rashford as pure attackers?
Imagine Martial, Lukaku and Rashford as pure attackers?
Just sign em already. Pay the cash and lets see how crazy we can go with our attack.
So many were shit on for thinking that was the best use of him as well.
Some were talking shit on Matic before we signed him too.
Are you happy with his technical qualities from a deeper midfield position so far?Yes I did and I'll wait until Christmas before I change my view.
@roonster09 put out the stats and already bring up the point similar to what I think.
I just want to expand the point. Remember someone like Courtois had a period where he made like 1 saves in 6 games (or even more) this past season. So Chelsea defense was good at avoiding to concede chances. Hypothetically Courtois was to conceded one unsaveable goal. Then his stats would look like 1:1 save per goal ratio. It doesn't mean anything about Courtois's concentration level.
If anything the saves per goal ratio ain't favoring GK in the best defense unit (avoiding conceding shot on target). At times, goal is conceded in just first few on target shot. The conceded goal should be judged on case by case basis. Why? Sometimes there is nothing a GK can do about the shot. Nothing regarding concentration level. In DDG case, this past season, he was below his past season standard. The goal conceded against Stoke, West Ham was. Yet there is no doubt DDG was still at top level in goalkeeping.
Yes, he has used the ball really well and was very good all round against Real Madrid and West Ham.
That is not what I was trying to insinuate (even though I rate Perisic well). I was trying to say that if Jose indeed wants Perisic desperately as reports claim, then he must see him as a perfect fit for the title winning team he is trying to build.
A damn good and productive 15 mins at that
I speak more of the form he's carried through - admittedly limited - pre season minutes and a general change in demeanour from last season. Him and Rashford on the left is the right way to go imo, for our attack as well as their development.
Besides, I'm not really a digging this whole 352 / 343 fad let alone splashing 50mill for a slightly-above-average dude that doesn't even currently play wing back.
Once again, money would be better spent on Danny rose or -insert better/ideal left back-.
But based on the evidence, he doesn't seem to want him desperately.
It's why he has mentioned multiple times that he is fine with only signing 3 players, it's why he has openly courted another player in the same position (Bale), and its why United have made one bid for the guy which was no where near the asking price.
Willian has recently mentioned that United made contact with Chelsea to sign him but Chelsea refused. So it appears that Mourinho is not obsessed with Perisic per se, he just wants that type of player with the Croatian looking like the cheap alternative until Inter played hardball.
Perisic is ready to renew with Inter: 5 million a year for his new deal
Cue the 'he used us to get a new contract'
Can you cut out the defensive attitude if you have nothing better to say? Your opinion on Perisic was weak and senseless. Most posters here judge a player based on the highlight reels on youtube. Nothing to be ashamed off if you are one of them.
Is true that Mourinho have screwed up in the market, but his record of flops is minimal compared to the good signings he made. So, a little faith in him isn't too much to ask. Besides that, the problem people here have with Perisic is pretty clear. Age, fees, takes up martial's/Rashford play time and not flashy enough. He's a good player who would improve us definitely. But i guess, good isn't enough for some, it has to be world class, flashy type of players.
The spine of our team is young. Let's not argue about that. Signing Perisic would let us play 352 (Jose said this) and move Martial/Rashford centrally beside Lukaku. So the notion of signing perisic would kill Martial/Rashford playing time is laughable.
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Is alright. I feel exactly the same.
No point debating with someone who doesn't rate Perisic because of some youtube footage. Thank god our manager isn't that way.
We will be able to close the door on this if he plays for Inter tomorrow evening against Fiorentina, if he is left out with the usual 'minor knock' then it's on.
I still think we will sign a fourth player, and he is still in my books the most likely.
I still think we will sign a fourth player, and he is still in my books the most likely.
So he wanted him to play wing-back? why not just sign an actual wing back?
He would fill multipurpose roles, A wing back wont.
Good points but on the other hand, there are also 'evidences' that indicate very serious interest in Perisic.
If we were signing Perisic to play LWB then I'm glad we didn't get him, I'd much rather give Shaw a shot in that position and if needs be go for someone like Rose next summer
Thought perisic started his career as a wing back?
not going to happen now for obvious reasons but i would have liked to seen him in a utd shirt and he is just what we need
Hopefully we won't regret this.
I think we would gave got him if he wanted to come. Not throw his toys out the pram like Coutinho but at least put pressure on the board. Maybe he did but it seems to me he is happy where he is at. Time to move on.
Plenty of people simply don't consider him to be enough of an improvement for the fee being quoted and would prefer us to opt for a better, in their eyes more productive winger. This is not just a case of flashy vs non-flashy but rather simply considering another player to be superior because he'd be more productive.
It's laughable to portray Perisic as this unique player just because Mourinho is keen on him.
The qualities he had would have given us that balance vs big sides on the wings.
I'm no football expert but is pretty clear that when our "wingers" goes down the flanks, cuts back, pauses then cross is a clear sign we need genuine wingers. Is a relief that Tony V no longer runs to the byline and smashes the balls in the penalty box. At least his crosses are floated and not at the byline which imo are more dangerous.
Saying Perisic is not enough of an improvement because of his fee is quite frankly wrong. He offers something we do not have, the market is inflated and when you see Sigurdsson going for 45m, how can one say he isn't worth the quoted price? Name me a few more productive wingers in the perisic mould. Please do not tell me we should top up a couple of mil and get someone like dembele or Sanchez. They are different type of players. Getting those type of players would seriously harm Martial and Rashford's play time.
""Probably the player that I was looking for is a player that allows me to play with three at the back and play wing backs." Jose Mourinho
You were saying fellas?
Well....looks like he is playing tonight.....
Assist for Icardi with his left foot.
Don't understand people saying he can't cross. Ok he's not a flashy player or a game changer but how on earth people think he doesn't have a good delivery? I think people just make stuff up because they don't like him. With his left foot as well
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I have been vocal against the signing, but seeing the plans Mourinho had for him he would improve our LWB position, blind is just too slow making us narrow in that position, and that extra acceleration with the added martial, mkhi and rashford supporting lukaku would have made us devastating, for the wing position not so much considering the talent we have in those positions. But it does beg the question, why does Mourinho not go out and buy that specialist LB slash wing back position? Unless he thinks shaw can return and own that position, the LB spot is a cause for concern, and the CB position still. Lets hope it does not cost us this season
LB or LWB is a very interesting position to use him, still its a bit risky playing him in a position that's not his natural position, Jose probably thinks how valencia's transition to RB, perisic could easily transition to LB, esp at his age his best talents going forward is LB. We are desperately short at LB, and if he is the guy to play blind's position, we may is well spend the cash. Inter just seemed to me were on a mission to make sure Mourinho could not get a player who is a good player, it almost felt like some vendetta against Mourinho. But I do worry for us at fullback, because blind week in week out in terms of pace to link up with our front players is a cause for concern
LB or LWB is a very interesting position to use him, still its a bit risky playing him in a position that's not his natural position, Jose probably thinks how valencia's transition to RB, perisic could easily transition to LB, esp at his age his best talents going forward is LB. We are desperately short at LB, and if he is the guy to play blind's position, we may is well spend the cash. Inter just seemed to me were on a mission to make sure Mourinho could not get a player who is a good player, it almost felt like some vendetta against Mourinho. But I do worry for us at fullback, because blind week in week out in terms of pace to link up with our front players is a cause for concern
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And do you know which player Mourinho was referring to?
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