For €220m apparently Neymar is available
Ivan Perisic
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For €220m apparently Neymar is available
at least just let them on loan not completely sell them
Hopefully we move on to next target. Perisic isn't worth losing Martial, even on loan.
I highly doubt he'll even consider selling Martial.
We won't be selling Martial. It would make a mockery of his chant and would indeed confirm it was 50 million down the drain.
If we buy Perisic and loan/sell Martial then I give up this club.
It won't happen. Inter are right to ask for Martial but the club won't allow it.
This is what I mean by overrating. From what we saw last season Martial might just as easily struggle at the top level. He is obviously talented and young but he is not clearly in the top tier of talents I have seen over the years. He started with a bang but last year he struck me as very one dimensional and innefective. His mentality is also a concern. He is also not really a winger and it shows in his performances (not that he showed much as a striker either).
In this context it is not outrageous to swap him for a proven specialist winger. We need one. Perhaps even 2. Of we dont get that then its a massive year for Martial to show he can contribute from the wing or at striker.... otherwise he will probably be moved on or ask to leave.
Buying Perisic and loaning out a 21 yo (who was very poor last year) for one season sounds like a great deal.
Not at all. Martial is already better than Perisic and, post Fergie, has been one of our few bright spots.
Martial at 19 in 15/16 produced a better season than Perisic has in his entire career bar one in the Belgian League, and Perisic has played for some good teams. It's not just the stats either as I watch a bit of Inter and his general play, for the most part, leaves a lot to be desired. As lackluster as Martial was last season, he's still a much better option on the left than Perisic.
If Jose really wants this guy then i would say wait for few more days as Inter are in negotiation with Keita Balde (as per Di marzio) or we can sign Lucas Moura who can play on RW has pace to burn had a great last season when i read a month ago he is ready to move to a top european club. Play martial or rashford on left and give a chance to Mitchell to provide width.
I'm coming around to the idea of signing him because the .anager feels he'll benefit the team.
But Inter want to hold us over a barrel to overpay for a mediocre player? Feck off. Let them keep a player who clearly doesn't want to be there.
But Inter want to hold us over a barrel to overpay for a mediocre player? Feck off. Let them keep a player who clearly doesn't want to be there.
Well tbh I have barely seen Perisic. But I did watch Martial last season. He was largely very poor and if Perisic cannot deliver better I agree we should not be buying him.
This is getting ridiculous. Let's move on and see who else would be (realistically) available
Inter sorta have a right to be pissed off but we also have the right to not want to meet their terms and move on to the next target. The next person on the "list" cannot possibly be a massive step down from Perisic so we should move on.
Totally agree with this. Very good post!
Or interconnecting. Is China the abyss? Is he going to be Jack Bauer style get banged up and tortured never to be the same player again.
It isn't a great deal. Martial has so much potential and should be playing at ManUtd, getting used to his team and tactics.
Martial isn't a youngster who is looking for mins to loan him out, he was arguably our best outfield player in Van Gaal season, if anything it's on Jose too to improve the player and integrate him.
Is this officially the transfer saga of summer?
It really doesn't.
We set our price Inter want more which is their right no agreement so move on to our next target. If perisic wanted the move so bad he would have requested a transfer request. But what send me alarm bells is this thread is only 198 pages.
How was he the year before that?
Move on. Hijack Keita Balde, cnuts.
From an ABU perspective I can confirm I would love to see Utd without Martial for one season. He's not a youth product, he is a 35-50m top buy who is being treated like he needs to 'learn' the basics on a loan before playing for a big club. That will do his confidence wonders. Mourinho should bring out the big gun sarcasm for this one if he really wants to get behind the player.
Can we go for Dembele now please 
Neymar to PSG will be if it goes ahead.
I meant for an incoming player to United.
Not a feckin hope.
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He was very exciting. Just like Rashford. So lots of potential and lots of question marks after last year..... unfortunately we are a team that needs results and goals. And we are not lacking young talent coming through.
city fan?
Time to move on from this one and look at other players, Lucas Moura, Felipe Anderson, Ousmane Dembele, even test the waters for Alexis Sanchez.
So Mourinho specifically didn't want to waste time on impossible players. Two months down the line, this is further away than when we started.
Bin it, move on. If it was a top, top player, then it would possibly be worth the back-and-forth to finally get this over the line. Perisic isn't good enough to waste this much time on.
Unless he specifically didn't want to come here, then it's a shame we didn't have a go at Douglas Costa, who was available and Bayern wanted to sell, and he's gone for a very good price. Paying more for Perisic than Costa makes zero sense.
Bin it, move on. If it was a top, top player, then it would possibly be worth the back-and-forth to finally get this over the line. Perisic isn't good enough to waste this much time on.
Unless he specifically didn't want to come here, then it's a shame we didn't have a go at Douglas Costa, who was available and Bayern wanted to sell, and he's gone for a very good price. Paying more for Perisic than Costa makes zero sense.
1) there is no guarantee a 28/29 year old is going to do better, who's last breakthrough season was in Belgium many years ago.
2) the season before last Martial was our best player by a country mile, in fact he was considered to be one of the top talents in world football.
Conclusion - it would be a terrible feckin deal. Hopefully we are sensible enough to tell them to feck off.
Not sure why people are getting their knickers in a twist over this. The guy is 21 and needs to develop. The scenario I proposed means we dont lose him. Of course I want him to have a banging season but only the coaches are best able to judge and try to predict that. However if he performs similarly to last year then it will cause problems for the team and they will probably have to bring in more talent to bolster results..... and I think I will leave it there as I dont want to offend more Martial fans.
Point is- I'm absolutely sure that Marital's first season is a better indicator of his quality, talent and potential than last season. Two- even poor Martial looks a better player than Persicic. Three - I'm hoping that even if we get Persici he will be used in a similar manner as Fellaini, meaning last resort.
and one thing..i dont get offended that easily mate
He's 28, he wants to leave and he's hardly a top player. They should be biting our hands off for those 45m
How do you think Martial would play at Inter? He had lot of offield issues and at ManUtd atleast he has friends and players who speak French. If I'm not wrong Martial can't speak Italian, can barely speak English, so he might take lot of time to adapt at Inter (who are changing a lot with new coach). Inter also needs quick results, why do you think Martial won't be benched (if he takes time to adapt) because they think about their longer term players?
Guy is 21 and should be developed at ManUtd.
Its really time for us to move on.
You do realise that one of Manchester United's main traditions consists of developing young talented players such as Martial? Not swap them for less talented 28 year old wingers, that in fact would be the complete opposite of this club's amitions. You don't have to be a 'Martial fan' to realise this deal is ridiculous.
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