Ivan Perisic

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bucky said:
I've also just looked up that stat about Perisic's crosses. He was averaging 4.6 inaccurate crosses per game to 1.1 accurate crosses. That 203 figure is misleading.
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It has been quoted here before that if Inter had strikers that could hit a cows ass his stats would be better.. Some of the videos show how badly they fecked up his crosses/passes. I am all for this signing, he will be very good for us.
 
bucky said:
I've also just looked up that stat about Perisic's crosses. He was averaging 4.6 inaccurate crosses per game to 1.1 accurate crosses. That 203 figure is misleading.
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You're wasting your time mate, we've reached the point where it's going to happen so now the majority will start to defend him and those that see the transfer for what it is will be called videogame fans and accused of only liking Brazilians or some such nonsense.
 
bucky said:
Compared with the inconsistent and frustrating Felipe Anderson:

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Felipe Anderson may well be the better dribbler, better crosser, better tackler, better passer and better creator and be 4 years younger, but:

Height: F.Anderson(1.75m), Perisic(1.87m)

Weight: F.Anderson(70kg), Perisic(80kg)

Aerial Duels won: F.Anderson(16), Perisic(55)
 
Ugh, reportedly €45+5m for Perisic, exactly what Inter asked for originally.
 
bucky said:
I've also just looked up that stat about Perisic's crosses. He was averaging 4.6 inaccurate crosses per game to 1.1 accurate crosses. That 203 figure is misleading.
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Per game and per 90 mins all gives different stats. Maybe that's the discrepancy.

Also the way crosses are measured might be different as it's between 2 different stats site.
 
crossy1686 said:
Any chance we're playing ball because we want Icardi (or someone else) on the cheap at some point?
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Unlikely, Inter just don't want to sell because they'll be losing one of their better players while their rivals are strengthening significantly and the teams that were already ahead of them are still a long way ahead.
 
Seems very "meh". I hope we sign a better player, but if we do sign the fella, i'll give him till xmas before slagging him off....lol
 
BluesJr said:
This thread is an absolute joke. I cannot wait until the posters who are so against this change their tune half way through the first part of the season, will be hilarious.
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Why is it a joke? If Liverpool or Arsenal were signing him would you be worried? Why wouldn't one be sceptical about a player who has been flaky, inconsisent, mentally suspect coming into a team with serious scoring deficiencies, coming from a suspect league where players typically fail to make the transition?
Most of us will happily turncoat if he does surprise but most are within their rights to be highly sceptical given our difficulties last few seasons.
 
arthurka said:
It has been quoted here before that if Inter had strikers that could hit a cows ass his stats would be better.. Some of the videos show how badly they fecked up his crosses/passes. I am all for this signing, he will be very good for us.
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Icardi isn't exactly a bad player. Inaccurate in this case also means something similar to pass completed; if the cross reached its target. What they do with it is irrelevant. Our own Valencia has 1.5 accurate crosses to 3.6 inaccurate ones. I don't think many praise him on here for his crossing, but he's statistically better than Perisic. The fact that Perisic isn't exactly accurate with his crossing and his passing makes me so opposed to this signing. Someone like Lemar is a much better passer and his stats in terms of crosses also show he's more efficient there.

For what it's worth I think he can be a more than decent player, I'm just not sure a decent player is what we need and I'm not a fan of buying for the sake of buying. If he signs, I'm going to support him.

Devil may care said:
You're wasting your time mate, we've reached the point where it's going to happen so now the majority will start to defend him and those that see the transfer for what it is will be called videogame fans and accused of only liking Brazilians or some such nonsense.
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I still think there is a point from time to time to argue about those things.

roonster09 said:
Per game and per 90 mins all gives different stats. Maybe that's the discrepancy.
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Add up 1.1 and 4.6, which is 5.7, multiplied by 36 and it's 205. There are quoting the total number of crosses, which is, as I said, misleading.
 
AltiUn said:
Unlikely, Inter just don't want to sell because they'll be losing one of their better players while their rivals are strengthening significantly and the teams that were already ahead of them are still a long way ahead.
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Keeping a 29 year old isn't going to do them any favours in the long run though. They could replace him with a youth player or buy within their own league with the money they make on him. Italian teams love selling to each other at knock down prices. I'd like to think that we're astute enough to make this deal be mutually beneficial instead of getting our pants pulled down because we haven't got another target lined up.
 
bucky said:
Add up 1.1 and 4.6, which is 5.7, multiplied by 36 and it's 205. There are quoting the total number of crosses, which is, as I said, misleading.
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Whoscored.com rounds up the number, if you check totals in whoscored.com also it's 165 inaccurate crosses and 38 accurate crosses which is 203 total.
 
bucky said:
I still think there is a point from time to time to argue about those things.
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Fair enough man, I'm just argued out at this point I guess, this team is heading in a direction I greatly dislike so I'll just keep my head down.
 
Stacks said:
Why is it a joke? If Liverpool or Arsenal were signing him would you be worried? Why wouldn't one be sceptical about a player who has been flaky, inconsisent, mentally suspect coming into a team with serious scoring deficiencies, coming from a suspect league where players typically fail to make the transition?
Most of us will happily turncoat if he does surprise but most are within their rights to be highly sceptical given our difficulties last few seasons.
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He was nothing like that at Inter.
 
Android1974 said:
Not last season, the one before. And starting the game from the right.
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That's what I meant should've been more specific. The date of the match is in there aswell. Doing damage on either wing will be a real asset for us.
 
crossy1686 said:
Keeping a 29 year old isn't going to do them any favours in the long run though. They could replace him with a youth player or buy within their own league with the money they make on him. Italian teams love selling to each other at knock down prices. I'd like to think that we're astute enough to make this deal be mutually beneficial instead of getting our pants pulled down because we haven't got another target lined up.
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:D Here we go again, adding extra years to make a player look older than he is :D
 
roonster09 said:
Whoscored.com rounds up the number, if you check totals in whoscored.com also it's 165 inaccurate crosses and 38 accurate crosses which is 203 total.
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Which doesn't change the point I was trying to make. There are players out there, who are more efficient with their crosses and that 200+ crosses number is used to make
Perisic look like exactly the sort of player we need, when it isn't that special.

Devil may care said:
Fair enough man, I'm just argued out at this point I guess, this team is heading in a direction I greatly dislike so I'll just keep my head down.
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I'm still going to enjoy United next season, regardless of Perisic or Fellaini.
 
bucky said:
Which doesn't change the point I was trying to make. There are players out there, who are more efficient with their crosses and that 200+ crosses number is used to make
Perisic look like exactly the sort of player we need, when it isn't that special.
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Don't think anyone used 203 crosses to big up the player, it's just a stat posted by some site, likewise no one uses 37 tackles, 41 take ons to big up player.

It's just analysis by some site on how player might fit at ManUtd.
 
Vilev said:
Lukaku is one of the PL top goalscorers in the last 3 seasons.
Perisic for all his career did not achieved anything like that.
And was fired the next year.
As i've said, waste of money. Strange you don't understand that.
Sure players such as Turan, Perisic, Sissoko are decent. And sure sometimes they are clueless clubs, managers who think that they will actually make it in the big league and bet on them. 90% of the time they does not.
Same thing will happen if Perisic will get here. Same as with Turan and Sissoko. A couple of years after that, he will be looking for a WBA team to buy him 3-4 times cheaper or sitting on the bench and collecting his salary.
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You saying nonsense like it's a fact doesn't actually make it true. So it's a given that he will go to west brom or such a team in a couple of years? Do you also have the winning numbers for the lottery?
 
Stacks said:
Why is it a joke? If Liverpool or Arsenal were signing him would you be worried? Why wouldn't one be sceptical about a player who has been flaky, inconsisent, mentally suspect coming into a team with serious scoring deficiencies, coming from a suspect league where players typically fail to make the transition?
Most of us will happily turncoat if he does surprise but most are within their rights to be highly sceptical given our difficulties last few seasons.
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Your right. We should be signing Players like Di Maria. That would scare them!
 
crossy1686 said:
Keeping a 29 year old isn't going to do them any favours in the long run though. They could replace him with a youth player or buy within their own league with the money they make on him. Italian teams love selling to each other at knock down prices. I'd like to think that we're astute enough to make this deal be mutually beneficial instead of getting our pants pulled down because we haven't got another target lined up.
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He is 28. Let's not add him years just to make it look worse.
 
I am happy about this signing as it's clearly a player Jose wants and he must have a system in place. I'd rather sign somebody the manager wants then just sign as many stars as we can. Ferguson used to always sign players to fit the system rather then big stars and most years we would walk the league not saying we will win the league this year, but you can see that Jose is trying to sign players to fit the way he wants to play. Feck knows what the system is going to be.
 
crossy1686 said:
Never intended to make him look 'worse' by adding 6 months to his age. I genuinely thought he was 29.
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Yeah, he's 28. He's going to be playing at a good/decent level for the next 4-5 years. He's not past his prime, he's well into his prime. It's a shame we did not get him 2-3 years earlier but it is what it is, it's a nice signing and good luck to him.
 
It's fine having an opinion on a player whether it's positive or negative; after all, this is a discussion forum.

But the constant moaning, repeating yourselves, over and over - it won't change anything. If Utd sign Perisic, there is feck all any of us can do about it.
 
Peanut Butter said:
It's fine having an opinion on a player whether it's positive or negative; after all, this is a discussion forum.

But the constant moaning, repeating yourselves, over and over - it won't change anything. If Utd sign Perisic, there is feck all any of us can do about it.
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I think people will be pleasantly surprised with Perisic if we get him. When a player gives everything he has every game it's hard not to like. Perisic is a warrior type footballer with a little skill on top. I've seen alot of him through the years and almost all his international games. The best comparison player I can think of is Valencia but Perisic is a bit more technical and is equally good with both feet.
 
Rather sign a guy like Demaray Gray if you want an out and out winger. Young and English too.
 
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