Ivan Perisic

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LoneStar said:
People calling Perisic deadwood :lol:

People play FM too much these days. Some fans are too spoiled. Sign anyone other than Messi or Ronaldo and they'll moan. Hell, I guess people would moan even if we sign one of them, they'll find something to moan about messi too, I'm sure.

Yes the price is steep, but if Mourinho really wants him that bad, maybe we should sign him? He'll bring directness and much needed width to the team. His crossing would make Lukaku more dangerous.

Also do people think plan B is Bale or Sanchez? If Perisic is plan A, who knows what plan B is? Also how are you all sure that plan B won't cost the same or even more?

I'll judge him on the pitch, not by his age or fee. He's desperate to play for us, which is always a good thing. Mourinho clearly has a plan for him, just get him.
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Jokes on you, Perisic is pretty good on FM.:)
 
Don't care what he costs, we need a winger and he fits the bill. Too many people only want the most hyped players.
 
Isotope said:
In Fergie's days, when you spent 50m for a 28-29 y.o., you're expecting a (close to) world class player. That's even considering this nowadays mark up price.

Agreed on your post. 50m for Perisic make 50m for Walker a bargain, where almost the whole football world was laughing about. Why people can turn blind on the price, just don't understand.
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How the hell does that make Walker a bargain? Walker is a year younger. Why is he a bargain at £50m but Perisic at £48m is a terrible deal?
 
Infra-red said:
So what you're saying is, a player's age and the quality of the league/club where he's currently playing his football both have an impact on people's opinions of him as a prospective transfer.
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It doesn't matter for me if he's 25 or 28. I think we are buying him with a view to improve the team over next 3-4 years which he's going to do.

The quality of Serie A and Bundesliga is similar. People just find it easier to get excited about teams from cool teams with hype around them. Perisic has largely gone under radar but he's actually been very good for the past few years, at both Inter and Wolfsburg. He was actually also good for Dortmund during their 2011-12 campaign.
 
stygg said:
Actually excited about him. Can he play on the right? Would love to have PACE on both sides which Martial offers on the left. Mata/Lingard/Mkhitaryan isn't THAT quick out wide imo, especially not Juan.

Lukaku
Martial - Mkhitaryan (or Pogba) - Perisic​
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In the national team hes mostly on the right wing. He's good with both feet.
 
el3mel said:
I'll open my shiny Fifa 17 today and try to play with Inter, then I'll put my final conclusion on him. :lol:
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No but seriously this type of poster that uses FM as a stick, really don't know what they are talking about. A FM player would go for obscure players like Pavon, Amiri or Castillejo, no shiny players like Ronaldo and Messi.
 
LoneStar said:
People calling Perisic deadwood :lol:

People play FM too much these days. Some fans are too spoiled. Sign anyone other than Messi or Ronaldo and they'll moan. Hell, I guess people would moan even if we sign one of them, they'll find something to moan about messi too, I'm sure.

Yes the price is steep, but if Mourinho really wants him that bad, maybe we should sign him? He'll bring directness and much needed width to the team. His crossing would make Lukaku more dangerous.

Also do people think plan B is Bale or Sanchez? If Perisic is plan A, who knows what plan B is? Also how are you all sure that plan B won't cost the same or even more?

I'll judge him on the pitch, not by his age or fee. He's desperate to play for us, which is always a good thing. Mourinho clearly has a plan for him, just get him.
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Perisic scored a hat trick against me in the champions league final in FM
 
JPRouve said:
No but seriously this type of poster that uses FM as a stick, really don't know what they are talking about. A FM player would go for obscure players like Pavon, Amiri or Castillejo, no shiny players like Ronaldo and Messi.
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I actually never played FM to understand what kind of players people are seeking in it. Max thing I played in football games is Fifa. :lol:
 
I find it weird that people say we need him to feed lukaku? Why the heck did we buy lukaku then if we need to buy another player to help him score. If that is true then that is one fked up transfer policy.
 
Tiber said:
Perisic scored a hat trick against me in the champions league final in FM
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To all the people who don't want Perisic, here you go! Lad is out there scoring hattricks in the CL final and you guys don't want him.
 
Tbh this guy could be a good signing but WHY are we listening to what Inter want??? 48 million for him???? Not a chance.
 
bosnian_red said:
Mata is a 10 and not great out wide (or just drifts in constantly to play as a 10, but giving us no width. Miki can and probably will play on the right, but again is better through the middle. Martial can be good on the left but is best as a striker probably. Last season was shit though, so its up to him to force his way in. Either way, isnt a winger for sure.

Perisic is an actual winger unlike anyone else at the club, can play either wing or through the middle even, and is two footed which helps that. Plus he'll pitch in with goals too. Hes the type of player we've been missing for a while.
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One of the few pieces of sense posted in this thread.

Of all of United's "wide" options (Mata, Mkhitaryan, Lingard, Martial, Rashford), none are natural touchline hugging wingers. Whether he is better than any of the above is irrelevant. He provides a different option and he is so two footed, he can provide that option on either wing.

Last season, the attack was far too narrow and sorely lacked players who could stretch the play and widen the attack (even as an option off the bench).

Then there was the Arsenal away game when Miki and Mata played as "wingbacks". In a similar situation, it would be far more advantageous to have a more athletic natural wide player to play that role rather than players clearly not suited to it.

Maybe there are better options out there but United really needs a player with the same qualities as Perisic. I think he will do a really good job at the club if the deal gets done.
 
chb23 said:
I find it weird that people say we need him to feed lukaku? Why the heck did we buy lukaku then if we need to buy another player to help him score. If that is true then that is one fked up transfer policy.
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You realise we are not restricted to one transfer a season, yeah? It's simple really. Lukaku was bought to score goals. Guy is good in the air and we have no good crossers of the ball. So buy someone who can do that. How is this fecked up?
 
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It's easy to say no, because of the price. However, if Jose feels he is really short of a position, he has to take that risk. If he doesn't go for it because of price, the fans will be the first ones to moan that we never performed the way we should have. The fans won't be saying we missed out because of a few £million.
 
chb23 said:
I find it weird that people say we need him to feed lukaku? Why the heck did we buy lukaku then if we need to buy another player to help him score. If that is true then that is one fked up transfer policy.
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We need more goals in general. Was a terrible turn out from us on the attacking front last season and we must be better this season. If it means getting the best possible service for Lukaku then so be it.
 
I didn't like Mourinho's comments on Lukaku's performance, implying that Martial was selfish and didn't think of the team's play. I want Perišić to come, but not at the expense of selling Martial, who's needed in the team in all the variations of our formations, as the first game showed.
 
JustAFan said:
Because they have a say in how much they sell him for?
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I didn't mean it literal. My point is he's not good enough for us to be dictated to how much we have to spend when it's close to 50 million. If they asked for a reasonable amount then fair enough but they are taking the piss.
 
Android1974 said:
I didn't like Mourinho's comments on Lukaku's performance, implying that Martial was selfish and didn't think of the team's play. I want Perišić to come, but not at the expense of selling Martial, who's needed in the team in all the variations of our formations, as the first game showed.
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He didn't say anything about Martial.
 
stygg said:
Actually excited about him. Can he play on the right? Would love to have PACE on both sides which Martial offers on the left. Mata/Lingard/Mkhitaryan isn't THAT quick out wide imo, especially not Juan.

Lukaku
Rashford - Mkhitaryan (or Pogba) - Perisic​
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Fixed. He can play on the right, but he seems much more at ease in the top left of the field, can't even be compared. Also, no way Pogba is starting a game at #10 now, unless a very defensive one.
 
Android1974 said:
Not last season, the one before. And starting the game from the right.
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Yeah he played on both wings in that game.

Android1974 said:
I didn't like Mourinho's comments on Lukaku's performance, implying that Martial was selfish and didn't think of the team's play. I want Perišić to come, but not at the expense of selling Martial, who's needed in the team in all the variations of our formations, as the first game showed.
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Jose didn't imply anything. He was just praising his new player.
 
Android1974 said:
Not explicitly, he didn't. But who else might he be referring to? Martial was “accused” of being selfish during the game.
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Why his quote is supposed to be against Martial and not against the other players scoring ? The quote can then mean Rashford, Mikhi or Fellaini, why Martial specifically ?

In fact, he didn't mean anything about any of them. You need to consider Lukaku being unselfish and drawing defenders away to free space for Martial and Mikhi can be Jose's instructions from first, using his physicality to hold the ball and gather defenders around him so that Martial can have a good run. Lukaku seems to do this and he gets the praise.

If he was angry of Martial being selfish he would have said it directly. Jose has proven many times that he can criticize a player directly if he wants anyway, no need for him to use a referred quote as a dig to this player.
 
el3mel said:
Why his quote is supposed to be against Martial and not against the other players scoring ? The quote can then mean Rashford, Mikhi or Fellaini, why Martial specifically ?

In fact, he didn't mean anything about any of them. You need to consider Lukaku being unselfish and drawing defenders away to free space for Martial and Mikhi can be Jose's instructions from first, using his physicality to hold the ball and gather defenders around him so that Martial can have a good run. Lukaku seems to do this and he gets the praise.

If he was angry of Martial being selfish he would have said it directly. Jose has proven many times that he can criticize a player directly if he wants anyway, no need for him to use a referred quote as a dig to this player.
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Lukaku played alongside Martial, not others, and the French was indeed selfish a few times, not others. Mourinho didn't only praise Lukaku, he said explicitly he was better than others who were selfish.

I'm only reading between the lines. If you think Martial and Mourinho's relationship is fine, then you don't have anything to worry, relax.
 
Android1974 said:
Lukaku played alongside Martial, not others, and the French was indeed selfish a few times, not others. Mourinho didn't only praise Lukaku, he said explicitly he was better than others who were selfish.

I'm only reading between the lines. If you think Martial and Mourinho's relationship is fine, then you don't have anything to worry, relax.
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He said he played better than some who scored the goal. Nothing about selfish or anything close to that. It was just a passing comment, not targeted at anyone.
 
Android1974 said:
Lukaku played alongside Martial, not others, and the French was indeed selfish a few times, not others. Mourinho didn't only praise Lukaku, he said explicitly he was better than others who were selfish.

I'm only reading between the lines. If you think Martial and Mourinho's relationship is fine, then you don't have anything to worry, relax.
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These are quotes :

Mourinho still made a point of praising the Belgian, saying: 'He didn't score goals, but he played better than the ones who did score goals.

'A good thing for me today is he's a team player and was not worried about himself. He was worried about the improvement of the team.'
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...boss-Jose-Mourinho-defends-Romelu-Lukaku.html

I hardly find anything in it regarding Martial and how he played. The first quote of being better than those who scored can be taken against Mikhi, Rashford and Fellaini so I find it strange to be taken against Martial only ? In fact he didn't mean anyone of them he just praised Lukaku for doing his job, nothing else.

Read the quote again and I'm sure you'll see that you overestimated the quote.
 
Silverman said:
Tbh this guy could be a good signing but WHY are we listening to what Inter want??? 48 million for him???? Not a chance.
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We won't sign him for 48 mil; if we were, we already would have by now. The fact that negotiations are ongoing pretty much tells you we're trying to push that price down, and Perisic has made it easier for us by angling for a move. Inter won't want to keep an unhappy player on their roster.
 
el3mel said:
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...boss-Jose-Mourinho-defends-Romelu-Lukaku.html

I hardly find anything in it regarding Martial and how he played. The first quote of being better than those who scored can be taken against Mikhi, Rashford and Fellaini so I find it strange to be taken against Martial only ? In fact he didn't mean anyone of them he just praised Lukaku for doing his job, nothing else.

Read the quote again and I'm sure you'll see that you overestimated the quote.
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Did Lukaku play better than Rashford, is that what you think Mourinho was implying? Or that he was comparing him with the two midfielders? I'll concede I'm overestimating here… just as I was very earlier last season when people were saying Martial and Mourinho were fine, there's no reason to worry, he was only getting fit, etc.
 
Android1974 said:
Did Lukaku play better than Rashford, is that what you think Mourinho was implying? Or that he was comparing him with the two midfielders? I'll concede I'm overestimating here… just as I was very earlier last season when people were saying Martial and Mourinho were fine, there's no reason to worry, he was only getting fit, etc.
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You'll have to tell me any reason to take the quote on Martial and not on the other players who scored the other 4 goals.
 
I've also just looked up that stat about Perisic's crosses. He was averaging 4.6 inaccurate crosses per game to 1.1 accurate crosses. That 203 figure is misleading.
 
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